Good glass/pyrex tank that is NOT a kanger protank

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Don't you guys find that a carto tank has a very muted flavor? Don't you guys taste the filler material? I mean a clearo is hands down night an day flavor next to a carto tank, when the clearo decides to work anyway. I tried a boge again yesterday because none of my clearos wick. Man the flavor is so muted. I taste the filler. With a clearo (when they occassionally work) the flavor is so crisp and clean. If they could somehow make a carto to taste like a clearo I would be game.

Why on earth would you base your opinion of cartomizers and cartotanks on one brand of cartomizer? :blink:

I don't like Boge cartomizers either, but many others do. I prefer Ikenvape cartos, and will use Smoktech over a Boge any day of the week.

It's foolhardy to essentially tell others to avoid cartotanks and cartomizers because you had a disappointment with one brand.


Think about this. Clearomizers only use tiny string wicks to bring e-liquid to the heating coil. That's an extremely small amount of surface area around the coil. This can lead to muting of flavor, less vapor production, and inconsistancy.

Cartomizers use a big wad of polyfill which completely surrounds the heating coil. That's an extremely large amount of surface area around the coil. The result is more flavor, more vapor, and more consistancy.
 

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Why on earth would you base your opinion of cartomizers and cartotanks on one brand of cartomizer? :blink:

I don't like Boge cartomizers either, but many others do. I prefer Ikenvape cartos, and will use Smoktech over a Boge any day of the week.

It's foolhardy to essentially tell others to avoid cartotanks and cartomizers because you had a disappointment with one brand.


Think about this. Clearomizers only use tiny string wicks to bring e-liquid to the heating coil. That's an extremely small amount of surface area around the coil. This can lead to muting of flavor, less vapor production, and inconsistancy.

Cartomizers use a big wad of polyfill which completely surrounds the heating coil. That's an extremely large amount of surface area around the coil. The result is more flavor, more vapor, and more consistancy.


First of all, No where did I say stay away from a carto tank. I said stay away from the aspire. I Asked if you guys thought cartos had a muted flavor. Not sure how that implies to stay away from carto tanks. You Assuming that I have only tried one brand of cartos in 2 years is pretty silly as well. Always that one guy that has to pick fights.
 

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First of all, No where did I say stay away from a carto tank. I said stay away from the aspire. I Asked if you guys thought cartos had a muted flavor. Not sure how that implies to stay away from carto tanks. You Assuming that I have only tried one brand of cartos in 2 years is pretty silly as well. Always that one guy that has to pick fights.
Your overall comment was a negative one about Boge cartomizers because of muted flavor and you could taste the polyfiller. Even though you prefer the flavor of a clearo, you admit they are inconsistant. You failed to mention whether you had tried any other brand of cartomizer.

Since you asked do I think cartos have muted flavor I will answer with no, they have more flavor than a clearo for the reasons that I already gave. In addition to that, they are much more consistant and dependable, and have zero maintanance other than refilling with additional e-liquid.

There are a select minority who can taste an odd taste from a cartomizer. For the vast majority of people though, they will prefer a cartomizer over a clearomizer. Properly priming the carto is key for success, and Boges having a distinctly compact filler are difficult to prime which is why I will not use them.
 
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I am told that a good carto tank is the way to go... I am going to try one soon.

That is definitely correct. A good glass carto-tank is way more consistent and much less hassle than most clearo tanks. I would recommend Phiniac glass tanks. They never leak. The carto should last between 8 - 14 days and then you just replace it.
 

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Don't you guys find that a carto tank has a very muted flavor? Don't you guys taste the filler material? I mean a clearo is hands down night an day flavor next to a carto tank, when the clearo decides to work anyway. I tried a boge again yesterday because none of my clearos wick. Man the flavor is so muted. I taste the filler. With a clearo (when they occassionally work) the flavor is so crisp and clean. If they could somehow make a carto to taste like a clearo I would be game.

This is just laughable. You can get a bad carto from time to time. But from the hundreds of posts I have read on this subject, plus my own experience, a good carto in a good glass tank has better flavor, better throat hit and is way more consistent than most clearos. And in all cases a carto-tank is definitely less hassle.
 

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Steer clear. They have the same issues as protank. I bought one. Will never see that cash again.

not if you get the davide-s which has the aspire dual bottom coil instead of the single coil kanger-style head. by far , the best tasting clearo. you can also get a glass nova aspire with the same dbc head and the same great vape. it ain't the tank, its the coil that makes the tank shine. i have had zero problems with the aspire line and have retired or given away all my protanks(and others that use the same head). they just don't measure up anymore......
 

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This is just laughable. You can get a bad carto from time to time. But from the hundreds of posts I have read on this subject, plus my own experience, a good carto in a good glass tank has better flavor, better throat hit and is way more consistent than most clearos. And in all cases a carto-tank is definitely less hassle.

Def agree with the hassle part
 

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Why on earth would you base your opinion of cartomizers and cartotanks on one brand of cartomizer? :blink:

I don't like Boge cartomizers either, but many others do. I prefer Ikenvape cartos, and will use Smoktech over a Boge any day of the week.

It's foolhardy to essentially tell others to avoid cartotanks and cartomizers because you had a disappointment with one brand.


Think about this. Clearomizers only use tiny string wicks to bring e-liquid to the heating coil. That's an extremely small amount of surface area around the coil. This can lead to muting of flavor, less vapor production, and inconsistancy.

Cartomizers use a big wad of polyfill which completely surrounds the heating coil. That's an extremely large amount of surface area around the coil. The result is more flavor, more vapor, and more consistancy.

then why do rbas or rdas with micro coils give much more flavor and vapor? what surrounds the coil is irrelevant- all that juice in the filler doesn't affect what happens on the coil at the time of firing, it's just a storage medium. the coil itself is where the vapor happens not what is around it. only the juice coming in contact with the firing coil has any bearing on the quality of vape. cartos(and carto tanks) and clearos are just different storage mediums to to get the juice to the coil(s). you may prefer one over the other but a good design in either one will get you a nice vape.....
 

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Even though personally I'm not crazy about the flavor of the Aspire ET-S, I wouldn't tell people not to try them. A lot of people seem to like them.

Keep in mind there are two manufacturers it seems making them now. Eigate and Vapeonly.

I have the Eigate Aspire ET-S, and I've had minimal wicking/flooding/leaking issues. I vaped 70/30 with it. I believe Eigate was the original creator of the device. Here's the Vapeonly ET-S.

Vapeonly / Aspire 2.5 mL ET-S Glass BDC Clearomizer

Maybe these perform slightly differently even though they look similar. Vapeonly has better colors, that's for sure. Eigate has the bad nail polish colors. Also, maybe there is different performance with the Vivi Nova style, or there could be better air flow with the ego threads compared to the 510 threads. Just guessing.
 

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not if you get the davide-s which has the aspire dual bottom coil instead of the single coil kanger-style head. by far , the best tasting clearo. you can also get a glass nova aspire with the same dbc head and the same great vape. it ain't the tank, its the coil that makes the tank shine. i have had zero problems with the aspire line and have retired or given away all my protanks(and others that use the same head). they just don't measure up anymore......

I was referring to the aspire tanks with the BDC. They don't wick. Some people are having a great experience some are having a hard time like myself. Tried many heads, all have issues with wicking ability. From what I have read it's 50/50 split right now on the success of the aspire BDC heads. Like I said before 1/8 eight heads actually vaped well for about 24hrs. After that it got burnt and a very tight draw. Cleaned it with no success. Slapped ona new head and everyone I put on gave me the same result poor wicking, burning very tight draw. 50/50 vg/pg.
 
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then why do rbas or rdas with micro coils give much more flavor and vapor? what surrounds the coil is irrelevant- all that juice in the filler doesn't affect what happens on the coil at the time of firing, it's just a storage medium. the coil itself is where the vapor happens not what is around it. only the juice coming in contact with the firing coil has any bearing on the quality of vape. cartos(and carto tanks) and clearos are just different storage mediums to to get the juice to the coil(s). you may prefer one over the other but a good design in either one will get you a nice vape.....
Know it or not, you just proved my own point. The reason an rba/rda makes so much vapor is the size of the home-made coils (surface area) compared to manufactured coils, and the speed/efficiency of the wicking system used. The carto system is superior to the clearo system and the rba/rda system is superior to the other two. When they are consistant. I find I have to tinker with both clearomizers and my RBA's to get them to remain consistant. I hate tinkering. I just want to vape. My cartotanks are consistant and dependable with zero maintanance or tinkering involved.
 

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Even though personally I'm not crazy about the flavor of the Aspire ET-S, I wouldn't tell people not to try them. A lot of people seem to like them.

Keep in mind there are two manufacturers it seems making them now. Eigate and Vapeonly.

I have the Eigate Aspire ET-S, and I've had minimal wicking/flooding/leaking issues. I vaped 70/30 with it. I believe Eigate was the original creator of the device. Here's the Vapeonly ET-S.

Vapeonly / Aspire 2.5 mL ET-S Glass BDC Clearomizer

Maybe these perform slightly differently even though they look similar. Vapeonly has better colors, that's for sure. Eigate has the bad nail polish colors. Also, maybe there is different performance with the Vivi Nova style, or there could be better air flow with the ego threads compared to the 510 threads. Just guessing.

Regardless it's still a failed product in my eyes. Whether it's the mini ego one or the full size vivi one. If the manufacturer says they wick well then why isn't it wicking? Did they not try them for themselves? I have contacted vapeonly and we will see what they say. Most of time in my experience the manufacturer couldn't give a rats .... Kanger didn't seem to care when they responded to me. I am also trying to find out why the aspire line isn't even on the vape only website

It's not the tank that's the issue. It's the heads. The fact the the ego aspire ets is made for just that a ego style batt. So any ego style batt should allow this product to work effectively.
 
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I have 3 6ml Pyrex Smok DCT tanks with the 1.5 ohm Smok DC. I like to chain vape, so having multiple tanks helps. I've had this set up since stepping up from Blister pack starter kit. The DCT has performed very well, not to say they are problem free, I have one right now that floods. The flavor is awesome the the amount of vapor is great. I am using a eVic vv/vw device which helps dial in the curve needed for whatever juice is in the tank.

With all that said, I will add this, last week I took a pull off of a mech mod with a RDA(2coil). Gotta say the flavor a vapor completely blew my carto tank set up out of the water, I'm really tempted to switch over to Mechs.

Edit: I was re reading above and as for consistency, they are awesome. Unless you hot box them like me LOL, that's why I have 3.

I have 3 of these, very nice performers.

 
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Don't you guys find that a carto tank has a very muted flavor? Don't you guys taste the filler material? I mean a clearo is hands down night an day flavor next to a carto tank, when the clearo decides to work anyway. I tried a boge again yesterday because none of my clearos wick. Man the flavor is so muted. I taste the filler. With a clearo (when they occassionally work) the flavor is so crisp and clean. If they could somehow make a carto to taste like a clearo I would be game.

If you are a strong nic smoker, a little bit of toxic fumes is not as distinctive as compared to a zero, or low nic smoker/vaper.

I'm guess you're a 0 nic vaper.
 
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