Good taste to TERRIBLE taste?

[ej20rich]

I have had a DSE901 for about 2 months now, and bought the starter kit, so i only had one atomizer. I bought 5 more spare atomizers and had 2 in rotation. The atomizers worked great, with great vapor production, aside from the usual "breaking in" process where the atomizers gave that terrible crud taste, after a few puffs, it started to bring out the full flavor of my e-liquids.

Now, its been about two weeks later, and both atomizers give me this terrible taste, where i cannot distinguish the flavor anymore, and i get this gross taste that makes me want to gauge. I heard the filters' filler portion can go bad sometimes after washing it out and reusing them, so i used new filters and it was slightly better, but i still get that gross flavor. My atomizers are not dying, not losing vapor production, but why does it taste like crap??

 

[nubee]

From what you list, sounds like you probably don't clean out your attys - which is a choice as I'm sure you'll read all over the ECF place

Since cleaning the pollyfill helped a bit I would hazard a guess that the atty might be similarly "dirty"

$0.02

 

[Robert]

Rip all the polyfill out of all you carts and throw it away!

Do a search here on the forum for - Lypton Pyramid Teabags or PTB and follow the video.

Learn how to dry burn.

Quit using the same atty for 2 flavors.

Save the Ta Ta's

 

[bigozone]

what powersource are you using? regular batterys or a USB passthru?

here are a few things i'd try

1. replace old polyfil inside the cart with new, or do the tea bag thing.
2. if the taste is bad enough... you can try cleaning the atty with a pure grain or vodka soak, maybe even hydrogen peroxide (there are threads and youtube videos)

3. try dripping straight on the atty... i only fill carts on my 901 to keep me from running an atty dry while dripping!!

 

[ej20rich]

yeah i am familiar with the dry burn, just seems like its too dirty at this point. i am using fresh filters out of the box now, but i will look into the teabag thing. does the vodka soak really work? and for how long should i do it for? I am using regular batteries, 1 manual 1 automatic.

 

[cityboy]

I do the vodka soak all the time and I have a few tips.

1st - there is always (I have heard) the possibility that you could destroy the atty. Make sure you have a spare atty before you try this. Also honestly, it will take your atty out of commission for a few days. (dry time)

I have done the vodka soak alot and never killed an atty. I think some people THINK they killed their atty but they really didnt, they arent patient enough.

2nd - Soak it in a non flavored vodka. I use Smirnoff.

Soak it for 3 hours tops. Soak it in a cup, swirl it around in the cup. Blow thru it, both ways, swirl again, etc. Rinse with water.

Stand it on end, let it dry for a few hours, flip it to the other end, let it dry more.

Forget about it till the next day (this is why you need a spare atty).

The next day, do some dry burns, and try some drags (a usb passthru is best to save ur battery). If you dont feel heat, set it on end again. Wait another day. These things really take time to dry.

On the next day, you should get heat, and even see the atty glow, but you wont get any vapor if you put a cart in. This means the wick is still wet. Give it some good dry burns, and drags, and set it on end again for another day.

By the third day, burn, drag, burn, drag, until you can put a cart on and get a hit. It takes some time. If you dont after 10 mins or so, set it on end again for another day.

By the fourth day you WILL get a drag. Again, dry burn, drag, (the drags are to get airflow past things to let the heat dry the wick), burn drag.

Periodically put a cart on and try to get a hit.

I have had this process go 2 days, and as much as 4.

I know this sounds like a pain, but if it saves you an atty, its worth it, especially since they may be in high demand and low supply someday.

Hope this helps.

CB

 

[cityboy]

ps - the dry burn process will make a bad taste for the first few hits once you get a hit. But after you are done you will enjoy a clean taste, and a monster hit that will remind you of when you first bought the atty.

 

[ej20rich]

that sounds good, i just put two attys in a cup of vodka, and have a spare to hold me over. oh yeah, since its a new atty, i taste a different type of BAD taste, how long does it take to get rid of this taste? would dry burning the new atty help?

 

[ej20rich]

UPDATE** I did the vodka soak, and fyi, i got it done in about 8 hours, 3 hours soaking, and once i blew out all the water on both sides of the atomizer afterwards, i used a napkin and repeated the process with the napkin on the other end, then made sure i soaked up all the liquid from the wick, then let it sit for 5 hours. It can be done in one day! i taste the full flavor of the liquid now! Now i need to perfect the teabag mod because mine is leaking...

 

[Ez Duzit]

that sounds good, i just put two attys in a cup of vodka, and have a spare to hold me over. oh yeah, since its a new atty, i taste a different type of BAD taste, how long does it take to get rid of this taste? would dry burning the new atty help?

Well since you asked this yesterday, you probably already vaped thru the primer taste you spoke of. In the future, you can simply blow out a new atty to get rid of the primer, no need to ever dry burn a new atty. Just make sure you dry it off and put a few drops on the atty after blowing it out. Also, I have found that simply blowing out the atty is usually all that is needed if I get a burnt taste. If that doesn't work, then I will resort to the alcohol soak.

And as far as the alcohol soak goes. It works well to get rid of nasty juice, and leftover juice flavors left in the atty. You shouldn't have to let it dry overnight if the alcohol content is high enough, since alcohol evaporates very quickly. I occasionally soak atty's in Everclear (151 proof), and let them dry for only about 1 hour or so. Then three drops on the atty and let it soak in for a minute or 2, and it should vape like a champ.

 

[Claasy]

I cleaned out an atty awhile back with 100 proof vodka, then blew it out, sat it in front of a heater for 10 minutes and just started using it. Is doing that known to cause any problems? It seems to be working fine still, and definitely improved the taste.

 

[Ez Duzit]

I cleaned out an atty awhile back with 100 proof vodka, then blew it out, sat it in front of a heater for 10 minutes and just started using it. Is doing that known to cause any problems? It seems to be working fine still, and definitely improved the taste.

Shouldn't cause any problems unless you over do it. Just do it when it needs it and ur fine.

 

[SquirrilahFish]

Ive found the best way to get any taste out of my attys good, bad, menthol, cola, what ever to be very very very simple:
step one: blow out the atty very hard, and long from the batt side, till at least 2-3 drops come out,
step two: wipe down the atty
step three: dry burn the atty (no more than 5 seconds at time with cooling breaks in between, i usually sit next to the a/c when i do this) until there is no smoke, no nothing, just red hot atty, (once you get to that point stop though)
step four: pop on a new cart, or add some drips, or both,
Ive used this to go from menthol, to marlboro, with no residual taste at all

 

[geeker]

I cleaned out an atty awhile back with 100 proof vodka, then blew it out, sat it in front of a heater for 10 minutes and just started using it. Is doing that known to cause any problems? It seems to be working fine still, and definitely improved the taste.

I do a condensed cleaning like you. I put the atty in a 5 ml vial, then fill it almost full with vodka. This makes it easy to shake up, not even to mention saving vodka! Anyway, I shake it occasionally until the vodka is a dark with crud as it will get. Three hours sounds right. Then I rinse it, blow it out from both sides until no more liquid comes out, and then it seems ready to go. I haven't ever had to leave them overnight to drain before I could vape them.

 

[ej20rich]

speaking of the vodka soak, i totally forgot about my fresh atomizer thats been soaking for about a day, and i am away from home for a couple days, will there be any issues, other than possible paint chipping?

 

[ej20rich]

I cleaned out an atty awhile back with 100 proof vodka, then blew it out, sat it in front of a heater for 10 minutes and just started using it. Is doing that known to cause any problems? It seems to be working fine still, and definitely improved the taste.

I can confirm this too with Ez Duzit, one worked right away like a champ, the other tasted a bit funny still and didnt glow red immediately, so i let it sit for an hour. I guess it depends on how much crap is on the atomizer.

 

[ej20rich]

hey this might be off topic but do any of you guys use the whistle tip carts? is it just me or do they freakin leak e-liquid when u top them off and i end up tasting some of it??

 

[cityboy]

I think the reason it takes mine so long to dry is because i rinse the vodka out with water first. Maybe Ill try skipping that part!

 

[cityboy]

hey this might be off topic but do any of you guys use the whistle tip carts? is it just me or do they freakin leak e-liquid when u top them off and i end up tasting some of it??

Yeah, they do. I only do about 4 drops at a time, this seems to be about an analog's worth of nicotene. I dont mind refilling for each time.

Also, if you draw slower on it, this is less of a problem.

CB

 

[cityboy]

speaking of the vodka soak, i totally forgot about my fresh atomizer thats been soaking for about a day, and i am away from home for a couple days, will there be any issues, other than possible paint chipping?

I dont know, Ive never done this, but I imagine if you can soak them at all and they still work, time isnt a factor.

The only thing I can think of is the alcohol evaporating, and the crud getting stuck all over the place.

CB