Got back in the vaping game... Things have changed!

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Flapor

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Greetings fellow vapers. I'm Flapor, a 25 year old student from the Netherlands.

I started vaping back in 2009 and bought a ''Sedansa Diva'' for 120 euros including some cartridges. Used that for a couple of months and then got tired of it. I never was a heavy smoker though, on average I smoke about 4-5 cigs a day. Untill about a month or two ago when I stopped analogs cold turkey. It went well, I chose to smoke if I would drink and keep it under control like that and thats what I did.

However, it seems that I do miss the act of smoking when being productive. It's almost like a subconsious incentive to keep at it untill the ''reward'' gets received. I did find that in terms of being productive, my old ways were much more efficient. This got me researching e-cigs again and after reading through a couple of threads, watching dozens of reviews, I soon hope to say I found something I like.

About a week ago I purchased an Olympian Imist and I can't really say that I am happy... The drags seem dry and there is very little flavor. I know this might be due to the composition of the e-liquid but I have ordered 3 different ones from the same site;

1 100%PG RY4 16mg
2 50/50 Black Cherry 18mg
3 70%PG/30%VG Apricot 24mg

It's almost the same with the liquids, the cherry and apricot give a slight taste for a second, if dragged directly on tongue when inhaling but thats it. The RY4 tastes like metal.

Now I dont have anything to compare it to(the ''Sedansa Diva'' was sent back to be repaired) so I dont know if this above or below the norm. But I went ahead and did some more research and eventually bought a Vision Eternity and Vivi Nova 2.5. And now am wondering if it is a smart thing to connect those to the 510 battery of the Olympian Imist​. Anyone care to advice me on this?

I also see a lot of talk about delicious e-liquids. Unfortunately in most cases the juices come from a US supplier, so another question would be if there are any EU e-liquid supplier favorites.

The last thing I have been trying to understand is the great price difference in some of the batteries. Are these differences justified by features or just looks and exclusivity? I know a lot of protection features are built in the cheaper version batteries aswell, for example: the difference between a Lavatube 4.0, Zmax v2, Provari and this; Our products - Titanide , I have seen the prices to be(same order)60€, 120€, 180€, 230€. I get more expensive manufacturing processes and more expensive materials but I wonder to what extent that makes up for the difference in pricing here.
 
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LTV1

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People collect mods to reward themselves for quitting cigarettes a lot. Nothing wrong with that, I have also started "collecting."

But a simple Ego Twist or Vision "Spinner" will give you an option to increase voltages from 3.2v to 4.8v

This can be enough to make a juice you aren't particularly liking taste better. By changing your voltage you are using. Variable voltages.

And not all ejuice is created equal, lol. Totally Wicked is in EU, I think Alice in Vapeland liquids are available in EU too.
 

SDave1969

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Welcome back.
Well. This is just my opinion.
For your vaping pleasure,
I think the juice delivery system + the juice itself is much more important than the battery.

Agreed. If you are using a Vision Mini then that can go on almost any battery with a 510 thread and not be in danger of damaging anything. It's when you get into the rebuildables that you have to be careful. I use a brand new Zmax to test everything to make sure it is safe. Essentially, you can read the resistance of any device you want to make sure it is safe.

For liquids, I find that I had to use less Nicotine to get the flavor to really stand out. I use 11mg where possible. Good luck...
 

Flapor

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Agreed. If you are using a Vision Mini then that can go on almost any battery with a 510 thread and not be in danger of damaging anything. It's when you get into the rebuildables that you have to be careful. I use a brand new Zmax to test everything to make sure it is safe. Essentially, you can read the resistance of any device you want to make sure it is safe.

For liquids, I find that I had to use less Nicotine to get the flavor to really stand out. I use 11mg where possible. Good luck...

I edited out a mistake I made. I ordered a Vivi nova 2.5, not the mini version.

On the nicotine diluting the flavor; I guess that makes sense though as the amount if nicotine means it will be there instead of the flavor part of the juice..

Also wondering if anyone has experience with the juice from Electronic cigarette and e-liquid company. Electronic starter kits at affordable prices - ECig Wizard
 

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Hi and congrats on coming back. You're prolly used to the older outdated "tank" (atomizer+ cartridge) system and it is prone to dry hits and leaking. The Vivi Nova is a really great delivery system IMO.
I have seen the prices to be(same order)60€, 120€, 180€, 230€. I get more expensive manufacturing processes and more expensive materials but I wonder to what extent that makes up for the difference in pricing here.
The main difference is some Mods are mass produced while others are made in very small quantity and thus the premium. You'll discover within the world of Mods there is a huge difference in the build quality of the actual "tube" and the electronics within them.
 
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I would take a peek here--> Europe Forum Just to see what other vendor options you have. The battery choices seem very expensive, considering how much euros transfers to American dollars. I could be wrong as I do not live where you do but wouldn't hurt to look.

Also, with the battery(Sedensa) you already do have it's tricky sometimes to know what their threading is. E-mail the vendor and ask them what it is. The Olympian does have a 510 threading stated on the site though. The Olympian is also called an eGo if you do not know, or perhaps an eGo clone. More or less, a fat batt. Using a 510 delivery system should be just fine with it. The best Ohms for your Olympian are 2.0 You can use LR or 1.5 Ohms for a warmer vaped. Be warned, this shortens the batteries overall life.

When it comes to quality of your vape there's a few variables. If you like your nova, problem solved if not; you may want to try a few delivery systems. If the Nova is threaded for 510 I do not see why it would not work on your Olympian. With cartomizers it's best not to go beyond 30% VG as it's too thick for them. Some people really like Cleromizers, or Tanks. The right delivery system can solve the issue. Everyone is a little different.

Just because something is more expensive, does not make it necessarily better. Yes there are knock offs to be careful of. While ECF is great, sometimes we are not as accommodating as we'd like to be for people in Europe as the majority of us are not from there. Defiantly try to find a European e-cigg forum if that's possible. That can really help you find more vendors in your area. ECF does still come in handy when you're at a loss with what to do with your gear though. I'm not saying someone from the Netherlands won't pop in, they might.

I think a problem with your RY4 may be you just don't like flavor/ it's 100% PG. A lot of PG can be really harsh. I've personally found that VG smooths things out. I personally like to use 30%VG/70%PG. Tobacco flavors can be tricky. Keep your mind open to more than just tobacco and I think you're bound to find something you really like.
 
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After 5 posts wait 1 hr for the ECF servers to reset and you'll be able to post elsewhere within the forum.
Seeing as you're thinking of ordering from the UK you may want to ask here:
UK Forum
Here's a reputable UK Vendor for DIY ingredients:
cig-eliquid / E cigarette Top quality e-liquid base for DIY mixing
And a list of reputable UK Vendors, compliments of Chrissie:
ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - E-cigarette/E-liquid Vendors List + discount codes


I edited out a mistake I made. I ordered a Vivi nova 2.5, not the mini version.

On the nicotine diluting the flavor; I guess that makes sense though as the amount if nicotine means it will be there instead of the flavor part of the juice..

Also wondering if anyone has experience with the juice from Electronic cigarette and e-liquid company. Electronic starter kits at affordable prices - ECig Wizard
 

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I don't know if this will help but I'll post it anyways.
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.
REMEMBER to stay hydrated as vaping is extremely dehydrating. Both PG and VG are hydroscopic / humectants- they trap the moisture in our mouth, throat and nasal areas and thus the vapor. Dehydration can have a serious negative impact on the vape experience and can also be very hard on certain organs. Add to this more than 3 cups java or caffeine laced soda drinks and dehydration is inevitable. Dehydration can not only ruin the vape experience but can also have unseen consequences on certain organs. I drink about 2 liters of water per day.
 

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As an example of quality my first PV was a Megalodon, a mechanical 3.7 volt PV with separate batteries made in the UK. Cost was $80.00 and 1 yr later it fires great and looks as good as the day I bought it. NOT a reco to buy as better PVs have been released since then.
Reasons I bought:
true 3.7 volts
easy and cheap to repair because it's mechanical
batteries cheap to buy and long lasting- $6.00 each for 2400 mah...100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge
can be easily broken down into stealth Mod- 2 1/2" long
 

Flapor

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As an example of quality my first PV was a Megalodon, a mechanical 3.7 volt PV with separate batteries made in the UK. Cost was $80.00 and 1 yr later it fires great and looks as good as the day I bought it. NOT a reco to buy as better PVs have been released since then.
Reasons I bought:
true 3.7 volts
easy and cheap to repair because it's mechanical
batteries cheap to buy and long lasting- $6.00 each for 2400 mah...100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge
can be easily broken down into stealth Mod- 2 1/2" long

What do you think of the Lavatube V4?
 

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NOT bashing BUT the LavaTube is a low end variable voltage with poor build quality. "If" you're really set on upgrading I would wait for the Christmas Sales- 30-50% discount. The BEST sale I know of is Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail
Realize the LavaTube is also known as Young June, Lambo, Knight Rider, VTube, and a number of other names. Also many diff versions and I've lost count. Also there's a Mod VV war going on with many new PVs entering the Mkt.
Here's a pretty good price for a Stainless Steel LT Starter Kit:
Apollo VTube Kit
Promotion: You can use code 'vtube30' to get 30% discount while our vtube stock lasts.

What do you think of the Lavatube V4?
 
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