Got my provarie...

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Striker911

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Get an addy and drip away. Thats the cheapest way to get good reliable vapor. Im almost ready to give up on the carto's. No one seems to be having the same issues I am though. Flooding, and then clogging in 1-3 days. Maybe a bad batch. I would like to say its something simple that I have yet to figure out. Although if it was more people would have a solution. I have an Arry on the way and if that dont work with a carto, I can try a ce2 in the same tank. If thats not a fit then the zenesis tank.
 

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Get an addy and drip away. Thats the cheapest way to get good reliable vapor. Im almost ready to give up on the carto's. No one seems to be having the same issues I am though. Flooding, and then clogging in 1-3 days. Maybe a bad batch. I would like to say its something simple that I have yet to figure out. Although if it was more people would have a solution. I have an Arry on the way and if that dont work with a carto, I can try a ce2 in the same tank. If thats not a fit then the zenesis tank.

Not going to hijack this thread, but I'd be interested in the juice you're using, ratio of said juice, PV, voltage, and carto brand/resistance. Shoot me a PM, I'm heading back to sleep, but will be around after sleeping has happened...lol.

Gratz on the Provari, I wish I could afford one myself. I suggest putting batteries in and using it, that sounds like a good start...then, if you need to, you could read the instructions lol.
 

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Congrats on the ProVari! looks like a really sweet piece of kit! I just got the 3DO EVO VV from 310Vapers and i would be interested in knowing how it stacks up. Main consideration was price but if there is a reason to step up to the ProVari I just may do it in the future.

I went from those things to the provari.. and it is amazingly different.

Even at teh same voltages the provari seems to work a lot better, plus it lasts longer.
 

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Main consideration was price but if there is a reason to step up to the ProVari I just may do it in the future.
The biggest difference is that the discharge into the coil is controlled by a microprocessor, which means you get no difference in output voltage as the battery discharges. Let me give you an example of what this means.

Lets say I bring home a new atomizer and plug it into my Provari which has just had a fresh battery put into it. I adjust the voltage settings until I figure out that I really like the way this atty fires at 4.7v and I proceed to drip and vape with it. The vape will remain at the same, rock solid, reliable setting all the way up until the point that the battery dies twelve or however many hours later, and it will stay the same when I replace that battery with a different battery. If I take this atomizer off, screw in a tank for a while and change my voltage to what I like on it, then change it back to 4.7v and screw that same atomizer back in I'm going to get the same experience, over and over again.

Now lets say I do the same thing with a buzz pro, it was my second choice when I was researching variable volt mods. I bring home the same atty, I move the little wheel around to taste until I find the same 4.7v sweet spot, a few hours later I notice that it's not in the sweet spot anymore, because my battery is draining and so I move the wheel again until I find 4.7v, and a few hours later I do it again, and again, and again until the battery dies. Then I put in a new battery, and I find it again, only to have to find it yet again a couple hours later, and again after that...

So, are there good non Provari PVs out there? Yes. Are there any that will give you the same reliable experience day after day that the Provari will? Not yet.
 

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So, are there good non Provari PVs out there? Yes. Are there any that will give you the same reliable experience day after day that the Provari will? Not yet.

Not that I can afford either one, and I would choose the Provari if I could, but.....Doesn't the Darwin work that way? For the hefty price tag, I would hope so.

One other things about lesser VV mods is the current limiting. I have a Lavatube/Vtube/many diff. names type of VV mod.
These unit limit the amperage drawn to 2.5A. It prevents overpowering and burning out your atty or carto, but it also restricts the range of voltages you can select, so with a 2ohm atty, for example, setting it to 3.7V or 5.7V makes absolutely no difference. You don't get the full advertised range of voltages unless you're in the ohm range of about 3ohms and higher. In fact, even at 3 ohms, you won't get 6V. It takes about 4ohms before the mod actually will supply that high of a voltage.

This doesn't really bother me too much, as I don't care that much for wattages much higher than 8 or so. From what I understand, at least one of the Provari versions also limits the amperage, but to 3.5A. I believe the BuzzPro has no amperage limiter. If you want to spend all day popping LR atty's, the BuzzPro will let you indulge in that particular fetish.
 

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I tend to ignore the Darwin altogether because of its availability issues. The supply is so low as to make it not really an option for anyone but enthusiasts who already have a solution that they like in my opinion. That's just based on my research and reading though, so if anyone who does the same reading wants to get on the mailing list and wait for one, and hope they beat everyone else to buying one, more power to them.

Everything you said about the buzz and amperage limitations is correct. I personally don't have a "new" provari with the 3.5A switch, so mine has the old 2.5A switch in it. If this ever gets to be an issue for me and I can pry it away from my face long enough, maybe I'll mail it in and pay the $20 to get it upgraded, but I have to say it hasn't been an issue for me. I can't crank it up as high as a new Provari, and definitely not as high as a buzz pro, but I find that I don't like ANY of my attys or cartos cranked up to the max setting I can reach on them anyway.

I guess, if you are wanting to run really high, you might want a buzz pro instead, or some stacked battery box mod. If you want a smooth, dialed in, rock solid, set and forget vape then you buy a provari, or a darwin if you win the availability lottery.
 

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The notcigs pvs provide solid vv, are rugged, just work day after day. An infinity pro, with charger/batts and second pair of batts, runs about $120 delivered. (the coupon code is "ECF Buzzkill")

They maintain voltage cleanly right until it is time to change batteries. Their run time is excellent, I get about 6.5 ml of vaping, 2.5 ohms, 4.5 volts, on one set of batteries. I'm pretty sure that with a provari you need the extender and 18650 fot equivalent run time. No lcd, but whether that is a plus or a minus is subjective.

I can afford darwins or provaris, but choose the notcigs pvs. I think the others are also excellent, just that I buy what I want.
 

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Main consideration was price but if there is a reason to step up to the ProVari I just may do it in the future.

The only thing I don't absolutely love about my ProVari is that the extension endcap for 18650 batteries doesn't look as cool as the original one for 18490; I find that the 18490 is not an all day vape for me, so I'll mostly stuck with the extension cap on :(

Other than that, a ProVari is just a joy to hold and to use all around.

It's fantastically consistent - Phil Busardo caught it in the act: he managed to measure the voltage output on the very last button push, as the battery was dying, and it was spot on. That is something you feel in the vape - every single one is identical to the previous one, throughout the day, until it starts blinking.

It's heavy, but in a nice way - it feels solid, reliable. My satin black, at least, is almost sticky - you can't get it to slide no matter how soft you grasp it. The button is in the exactly right place. It doesn't click, but it gives you a clear feedback, soft but consistent, and it sort of springs back when you stop pushing it, slightly pushing against you finger so you don't ever get to be "neither on nor off".. it's hard to explain.

The current amperage limit is above anything I could reasonably need. I can use it to get all the power I, at least, can handle out of anything I put on it. As a bonus, it functions as a meter for the battery and for the carto/atty resistance. It's everything.

Again, it feels, at least, durable and strong, carefully crafted. There's no give, no jiggle, no squeaking threads.

It has a deep drip well.

It gives you all the peace of mind you may need - safer chem batteries running on a smart circuit that constantly monitors voltage, amperage and temperature. It doesn't let you do unreasonable things, and it tells you so by means of error messages (unlike the VZ VV/Lavatube).

You have 0.1 V control - I didn't think I'd care much about that, but in using it you discover that subtle adjustments go a long way for some carto/juice combinations.

Did I mention how solidly built it is? :)

I guess, as a purchase, you can actually tell where the money went with every vape you take. Once you hold it and you vape it, it doesn't seem expensive any more.
 

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get a liquinator and some boge 3.0 sr and run it around between 4 and 6 volts. Have fun until you find what you like.

My IMR 18650 2000Mah last around 2 days between 4.5 and 5 volts. My blue batt has lasted me 2 days at a constant 4.5 volt and is still going. Have not put the 2600 tf in yet. as i wanted to test the others first.
 
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