Got my Reo Grand! liquid taste great in atomizer, but not in carto?

[fogbear]

Hey everyone! I just got my Reo Grand, and while I thought about posting this in the new memembers section, I thought since I have a Reo Grand maybe I could post here.

This must seem like I a newbie question. Flavors in my atomizer taste great! But not so much in the carto. It almost taste like a dry hit. But get pretty good vaping, and massive throat hit. I have 36 mg nic by the way. lol I know, newbie mistake. But no headaches yet! haha I try diluting a batch, and naturally lost flavor, and some harshness. I probably put 10 drops in their. But in the atomizer their is no harshness even when not diluted, and amazing flavor! Any ideas?

How much should I feel my carto?

I thought cartomizer were supposed to be more simple? lol


Thanks for any help!

 

[zapatengo]

I have had my Grand about a week and have taste issues as well. Most of my juices taste better in an atty, but a few taste better in a carto. I guess We will be experimenting with juice/carto/atty combos. Be careful with that high nic. I almost made myself sick the first night I got it. I had to remix my DIY over the next couple of days to lower nic. I have gone from 24mg 24/7 to 10-15mg. in all juices.

 

[karmakatie]

It sounds like you might have a burnt carto, did you put juice in the carto and let it sit a bit before putting it ont he Reo and vaping?

 

[fogbear]

I did not let it sit. lol I am now.

Yeah that 36 mg is real heavy. I figured I smoked reds so I would need 36. One a manny newbie mistakes I will make I am sure. I have a buzz! lol

I think I am going to order some 18 of the some flavor, and mix the two, and make 24

Thanks for the advice. I am letting the carto sit for a while. But man juice in the atty taste really good! Yummy!

 

[karmakatie]

I am definatly an atty fan on the Reo, it's hard to ever match that taste

 

[karmakatie]

I did not let it sit. lol I am now.

Yeah that 36 mg is real heavy. I figured I smoked reds so I would need 36. One a manny newbie mistakes I will make I am sure. I have a buzz! lol

I think I am going to order some 18 of the some flavor, and mix the two, and make 24

Thanks for the advice. I am letting the carto sit for a while. But man juice in the atty taste really good! Yummy!

I just recently stepped my nic down from 24mg. Once all the withdrawal stuff is over I just don't feel I need it lol....it does get easier, everyone of has lessons that we have had to learn, some harder than others

 

[fogbear]

Yeah it might be just it is that better in an atty! I mean should it be 10 times better? lol

I am happy with my purchase so far! I just hope I can figure out the carto thing.I will let it sit. I have about 20 cartos, and only 2 attys. lol

 

[nerak]

I did not let it sit. lol I am now.

Yeah that 36 mg is real heavy. I figured I smoked reds so I would need 36. One a manny newbie mistakes I will make I am sure. I have a buzz! lol

I think I am going to order some 18 of the some flavor, and mix the two, and make 24

Thanks for the advice. I am letting the carto sit for a while. But man juice in the atty taste really good! Yummy!

A lot of us do not fill a cartos. Just put it on a squonk a couple of times and vape. You use it just like a atty. When you get less vapor and taste you squonk again. The cartos will last a lot longer if you do not fill them from the top. The juice only needs to be where the coil is, not all through the filler. Your atty might just give you better flavor, but the cartos are good too.

 

[canoeist]

Karen is right about not pre-filling, I squonk about 3 times before I hit a carto.
Some juices will last a lot longer than others in cartos, unfortunately my liquid kills a carto taste after about 2 days.
Sometimes if you dry burn a carto the burnt taste does not go away.

 

[hildicat]

It all depends on your juice/atty/carto combination. For me, I found way much better flavor using an atty but I know many others like cartos just fine. Ild say, if you like what you are getting from the atty then stick with it. The beauty of the Reo is that you can use an atty just as easily as you would a carto on another device.

 

[Mudflap]

My two Reos don't see cartos any more. Attys for me.

 

[fogbear]

I let the carto sit for a couple of hours, still harsh. My nic level is high, but like I said with the atty I don't taste the harshness near as much. A little harsh. But so much more flavor.Like 10 fold. I must be doing something wrong.I did dilute the nic level, to about 24 mg I am guessing.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will try and treat the carto like the atty, and just feed it a little, instead of top filling it. Thats a good idea. I am so new to this. 5 hours in, and only 1 analog, about 3 hours ago. That is 4, or 5 less than normal,but who is counting. "hehe"

I think I will experimenting. As for now I plan on running with the atty when I go to work tomorrow.

Do you guys inhale the smoke into your lungs like a analog? I mean max for nic consumption? I think I read somewhere to exhale through the nose or something. I have been kinda taking baby hits, and such. But it still might be because it has a bit of throat hit is a little much to be desired.

 

[washvap]

WELCOME TO THE TEAM

I always recommend others visit the REO sub-forum with any questions regarding the REO. When you say, your getting a dry hit from a carto. Might mean that your carto is burnt. I would recommend tossing that one before moving onto another.

If you have a standard sized carto such as a Boge LR then it would take 25 drops/1ml. If your using an XL carto like a resurrector of DCC. Then it would take 45/1.8ml of juice. Let it sit for at least 20 minutes before you vape.

I know this sounds as if I'm contradicting the information that has been given but, it's not how cartos are supposed to be used. So, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with others recommendations. Coils are often located in the middle of the carto. Yes, people have reported that they can use it as an atty and have had success.

Doesn't make it safe by any means necessary. Nor is it recommended. There are a lot of dangers associated with burnt cartomizers. Using it that way will only raise the level of danger. Since it's easier for the "diaper" (piece of cotton wrapped around the coil) and filler material to be burnt since they are basically dry. If you want more information about cartomizers. Then I will refer you to this thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html

 

[Mudflap]

Also, be aware that some cartos are junk fresh out of the wrapper. You could do everything right as far as prefilling and letting it soak in and it still might taste burnt or nasty.

They're mass produced, cheaply made, and disposable, so it'll happen. Don't waste too much time on a junk carto. Toss it in the garbage and try a new one.

 

[fogbear]

Woah! Maybe that is what I did. I might have hit it to dry, and burnt the filler or something, and now everything taste nasty. huh...

Why do people prefer cartos, over attys on a Reo? I mean cartos are cheaper, but don't attys last longer? I mean in my very limited experience the whole squonking thing doesn't seem to hard. I over did it once, but I have gotten better.

Is it that cartos are cheaper, or less messy or something?

 

[washvap]

It's not only that it tastes nasty. Your inhaling smoke now from the burnt filler material and not vapor. Which will cause obvious negative ramifications if you continue to use this carto. Really not trying to scare you but, just letting you know the truth.

People prefer cartos since you don't have to feed them as often. So, it gives a sense of convenience. Since you can take 10-15 drags without needing to fill it. Also, they bring out an aspect of flavor that atties sometimes can't. Your right on one of your assumptions in that people choose to use cartos because they are cheaper. They also don't leak as easily as atties do as well. Which adds to the allure of why people continue to use cartos.

 

[Mudflap]

Woah! Maybe that is what I did. I might have hit it to dry, and burnt the filler or something, and now everything taste nasty. huh...

Why do people prefer cartos, over attys on a Reo? I mean cartos are cheaper, but don't attys last longer? I mean in my very limited experience the whole squonking thing doesn't seem to hard. I over did it once, but I have gotten better.

Is it that cartos are cheaper, or less messy or something?

It's an individual preference. Use whatever you enjoy and keep spares on hand. Both attys and cartos have a finite useful lifespan and there are all kinds of tips and tricks to extending their longevity, but ultimately, they all have to be replaced.

Several us are just waiting for a bottom feeder compatible rebuildable atomizer to become available. Kanthal wire for the coil and silica wicking material are both very cheap. Those are the components of an atomizer that most often break or wear out on disposable atomizers.

 

[Della Cirque]

If you are enjoying your atty, just stash those cartos away for a rainy day. (or the day you end up with more REOs than attys.) I was the same way, no problem learning how to blind squonk an atty but a complete disaster with cartos. Most say cartos are easier...but not for all of us.

 

[pmoraldo]

Cartonaut here although I also enjoy my HH357's in the evenings. Like Karen said I just slap my boge cartos on give them a couple of blind squonks wait 20-30 seconds (you'll need to squonk a little more often in the beginning so as not to burn them) and vape my dang head off. I get great flavor,vapor, and TH. If I catch the burnt taste at the very beginning and give it a real good squonk that even usually goes away for me YMMV

Also main reason I use cartos is there so easy and no leaky and I used to say cheap but thats not really true the way I use them. I slap a freshy on every couple of days and granted not a big deal at $1.25 ea. but still more than most spend on attys

 

[whatitstrue]

Congratulations fogbear and welcome!!!!!!

This calls for a banana dance!!!!!




The old saying if aint broke dont fix it.... If attys are working better than cartos. Use attys!!!!!


Attys rule!!!!!! REOs Rock!!!!!!!