got thrown out of a chinese restaurant

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It also creates concerns because many establishments can be fined for allowing "smoking" in states where there is a smoking ban in place. (As there is in IL).

Likely they were as worried about that as much as anything else.

That's exactly how it is here in MA too and I can understand fully about an owners concern because some fines can be quite hefty.

I also ask permission before I vape in any establishment and as mentioned I DO NOT use the word "cigarette", I simply call it my personal vaporizer. However, to the original poster, I would have gone back to that same restaurant the very next day and asked to speak with no one else except the owner and had a quiet and private meeting with him/her. I would have explained exactly what happened last night, the fact that you were treated rudely and that the way that you were treated was wrong. I would then ask that he/she watch and listen as you explain and demonstrate your PV. I would finally demand an apology for the treatment and embarassment that you and your family recieved from the owner and the person who tossed you out. Whether you return to that restaurant ever again is up to you. At a minimum, you have now educated them and that's all we can do.

A couple of years ago I was going through a drivethru at a local CVS and was told, not asked - told to put out my cigarette. I was in my own vehicle and asked her if she was serious and she demanded that I put it out which I did to avoid conflict. The very next day I went and spoke with the manager (not an associate) and explained what happened and that they had no right to tell me to put out my cigarette while smoking inside my own vehicle, but would have gladly complied if they had a sign asking customers to do so. I got a sincere apology and was assured that it would never happen again.

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I shouldn't have done what I did. I mean, I can understand why they overreacted, they had no clue what I was doing. I think I will call/send a letter... Just because I think they should know what it is.

I am sorry you had to go through that. I can imagine how humiliating it must have been.

I would send a letter of complaint because of the way they handled the situation, and also give them some good info to educate them on the difference between a cigarette and a PV.


By the way, I work in the business and we allow vaping in our facility. :)
 

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two way street... BUT no necessity for rudeness.
One thing is to ask a different one is to yell at customers.
A place I think you should not go back.
I had problems in the past, but most times people have been polite, asking me “not to smoke”…
Now, I normally ask before vaping… and in my regular places I am allowed.

Now, there’s always stupid people; I used to vape at my office but I can’t now (I sometimes stealth-vape) but there is one “…” (I don’t know how to call him/it because he does not act human or has a brain) and he complains that “I’m messing with his lungs” because the odors… go figure. So one more stupid to scratch from the list… there is always one.; so don’t worry and keep on vaping, don’t smoke!

Wow.. i hate people like that.. messing with his lungs.. is he afraid of drowning in vapor? lol
 

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Wow.. i hate people like that.. messing with his lungs.. is he afraid of drowning in vapor? lol

Can you believe it?
Yeah, straight words he says every and each day since last week.
The funny part is that he even complain when I'm not at the office.

To him, I'm smoking because he can smell it and he has difficulties to breath... the partners of the firm just rolled their eyes and asked me very polite not to do it anymore... I had to oblige because they were very polite; so now, I stealth vape with a joye stick and use my 5V at the lunchroom or elsewhere but not near my desk.

This just proves: despite having a degree, there are still many idiots who just want to bother other people.
 

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I shouldn't have done what I did. I mean, I can understand why they overreacted, they had no clue what I was doing. I think I will call/send a letter... Just because I think they should know what it is.

The one thing I have to remind myself when I think should I vape someplace or not is that many if not most people do not have the knowlage of e-Cigs that we have.

They see, what they think, is smoke comeing out of your lips, what do we expect them to think were doing? I can understand the misconception.

There are also places like bars or resturants where if a person see what they think is smoking, they get on the phone to every city, state and goverment office and log a complaint. No Bar or resturant owner wants this type of un-need attention.

There are also just plain intollerent people in the world that will not except you smoking or vaping or drinking or riding a bike or doing what ever, if they feel that they don't like it.

Anyway you slice it, I think I would fly a little lower under the radar next time and just walk outside and take a hit if you can't wait long enough to get outside to you car.

BTW - If you interested in what other people think about this exact thing, there is a thread devoted to this topic here;

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-vape-where-you-cant-smoke-6.html#post1482210
 

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Did your mom laugh her head off when this happened? Sure the lady was a bit wound up but you vaped in a non-smoking joint and had a consequence.People from other countries call people out quick and loudly which I envy and wish happened here.Getting thrown out might have been overreacting but maybe it shed some light for someone on how to act.
 

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Did your mom laugh her head off when this happened? Sure the lady was a bit wound up but you vaped in a non-smoking joint and had a consequence.People from other countries call people out quick and loudly which I envy and wish happened here.Getting thrown out might have been overreacting but maybe it shed some light for someone on how to act.

I wasn't hurting anyone. I wasn't smoking illegal substances, I wasn't a disturbance. I wasn't stealing, shall I go on?

c'mon, I was using an inhaler with nicotine. I did not deserve to be treated like a THIEF!

I'm going to call my lawyer and see if I have any rights here.
 

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How did we go from this....

I shouldn't have done what I did. I mean, I can understand why they overreacted, they had no clue what I was doing. I think I will call/send a letter... Just because I think they should know what it is.

To this ?

I wasn't hurting anyone. I wasn't smoking illegal substances, I wasn't a disturbance. I wasn't stealing, shall I go on?

c'mon, I was using an inhaler with nicotine. I did not deserve to be treated like a THIEF!

I'm going to call my lawyer and see if I have any rights here.
 

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I wasn't hurting anyone. I wasn't smoking illegal substances, I wasn't a disturbance. I wasn't stealing, shall I go on?

c'mon, I was using an inhaler with nicotine. I did not deserve to be treated like a THIEF!

I'm going to call my lawyer and see if I have any rights here.
Sure call your lawyer but if he is wise he only gave you his 900 number.Maybe whocanisue.com is on your favorites.By all means go on but do tell ,did your mom laugh and consider it the best gift she got all year including mothers day?Do you think its ok to bring other lookalike things out and in public if you do not believe it disturbs anyone else? my belief is your actions will make my pv life more difficult.Its a chinese buffet or trough not Applesbees or even a chinese joint with a menu.She didnt call you a thief she said you are a problem go away(in her own way).In retrosect she should have given you your money back kicked you out and let the rest of your table stay.Sorry to sound harsh but your actions will effect my joy and thats not in the cards.
 
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Don't let comments go over your head.
What is done is done! Past!
Think about it, made your mind and don't make a big deal out of one experience.
Here (as well as in any place) you'll find people who agree, disagree and al in between.

Nobody was there, even the witnesses cannot feel what you felt but this is giving you and idea of how we see it and think of the situation.

Don't get trapped in a huge war because something like this. Don't waste your time, effort and resources for it. If you feel that bad, then complain to them and tell everybody you know not to visit the place (some will follow, other won't).

Keep on living your life and enjoying what you love; make a box mode, find new flavors; find another chinese restaurant where you can vape and let them deal with their business as they please... if they continue being rude with people; eventually they won't have customers.

Why to educate them and help them if they are showing no interest/respect? Let them be and perhaps they will fall by their own mistakes.
 

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Hey TJ,

I guess since you're fairly new here you probably weren't aware that the "Vape Where I Want'" issue is still so controversial. There really is no clear consensus, even among forum members on what is the correct behavior as far as public vaping. Heck, even in my own home, my boyfriend and I are divided. He always wants to vape in the movie theater and that drives me crazy. I guess living in California, where any form of public smoking has been banned for so long, I just don't think about it anymore.

Everyone has an opinion on what is clearly going to become the "hot-button issue" and no amount of debate is gonna change those opinions, at least not at my house.

Everyone here knows that you we're just venting about a unfortunate situation and we all feel for you. No one likes it when someone else infringes on their rights. We just want to make sure you considered the rights of the proprietor and the others around you as well.

I hope you feel better now and know that this current debate is definately not a reflection on you personally. But if you chose to continue in your quest for the public vape, then I can guarantee you this won't be your last confrontation. But I say, the more power to ya, girl.
 

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kirss, let's wait until we find a liquid/device not producing any vapor/odor that gives the same satisfaction and we will be good to go!

Of course, for people who want the big cloud won't be a joy, but at least we will be able to do it more freely and without a problem.

It just remind me when I didn't want to quit smoking... I used to buy nicotine gum for traveling; using it in long flights; but never to really quit...
 
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So I was at a China Buffet here in Chicago enjoying my meal and after I was done I decided to pull out my e-cig and have a few drags..I tried to blow the vape down but the first few warm ups produced a huge cloud of vape.

An attendant immediately rushes over to our booth and YELLS "NO SMOKING!!!" and attracts all this attention to me and my family, I felt so embarrassed that she would embarrass me and my family like this as paying customers. She wouldn't even let me explain what it was and she told us to "LEAVE NOW!" ... Since it was a buffet me and my mom wanted to have some ice cream and we were unable to stay.

I don't know, I tried to explain that it's not smoke but she wouldn't listen she just said that we were not welcome anymore.

I feel very angry right now, I was totally treated like a thief or something and I wasn't doing anything wrong! I will never go to that place again and I will tell all my friends not to go there.

SO SORRY YOU WERE TREATED LIKE THAT :(
There is no excuse to treat a customer that way ... no matter what the circumstances are!!
Mr Drip(Robert And Missy) use our devices everywhere traditional cigs are not allowed and more often than not we are asked for info and asked to further demonstrate !
We were just in a Borders and had about 10 people wanting to know more...!!
We use ours in the grocery store /Trader Joes / Whole Foods/ restaurants / bars /Home Depot / Gas station / Docter's Office .....etc

We did have one manager in a Chili's Bar / restaurant rush over to inform us there was "NO SMOKING" allowed ...
we were given the chance unlike you, to explain to her it was water vapor and PG .....
Yes i agree any establishment has the right to ban vaping if they so wish ....but if they think i am smoking an analog cigs then they owe me the curtousy to explain and then make a decision based on that!!

So far in the 1 year plus we have been vaping no one has ever asked us to leave an establishment or for that matter have they ever asked us to not use our e-cigs in their establishment :)

Unfortunately I think you were in an establishment where customer service and care was lacking !!!
I hope it does not make you shy away from vaping in public :)
Don't let someone's rudeness scare you off....!!
Missy / Robert aka Mr Drip
 

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So I was at a China Buffet here in Chicago enjoying my meal and after I was done I decided to pull out my e-cig and have a few drags..I tried to blow the vape down but the first few warm ups produced a huge cloud of vape.

An attendant immediately rushes over to our booth and YELLS "NO SMOKING!!!" and attracts all this attention to me and my family, I felt so embarrassed that she would embarrass me and my family like this as paying customers. She wouldn't even let me explain what it was and she told us to "LEAVE NOW!" ... Since it was a buffet me and my mom wanted to have some ice cream and we were unable to stay.

I don't know, I tried to explain that it's not smoke but she wouldn't listen she just said that we were not welcome anymore.

I feel very angry right now, I was totally treated like a thief or something and I wasn't doing anything wrong! I will never go to that place again and I will tell all my friends not to go there.
Hope you didn't pay the bill.
 
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