GP Heron v. Kayfun (any vers) for flavor

[javyn]

Who wins? And if kayfun wins, which kayfun?

Thanks.

 

[slyphex]

I prefer the Heron. It's a smoother, more refined taste. If you build it with silica and don't use the 'cotton topcap', the vapor will swirl in the chamber and pick up additional flavor notes from the juice held in the filler material.

If you use cotton and use the cap, the vape is on the warm side. Temperature is a preference of course, but it's worth mentioning.

 

[retic1959]

Who wins? And if Kayfun wins, which Kayfun? Thanks.

+ 1 for the Heron as well , it has a couple of advantages over the KFL's and the 3.1 Kayfuns besides flavor . The KF V4 narrows the gap but so many parts on the dam thing . I prefer the Rose V2 overall but it's a bit more of a PITA to build than the others mentioned .

 

[javyn]

I prefer the Heron. It's a smoother, more refined taste. If you build it with silica and don't use the 'cotton topcap', the vapor will swirl in the chamber and pick up additional flavor notes from the juice held in the filler material.

If you use cotton and use the cap, the vape is on the warm side. Temperature is a preference of course, but it's worth mentioning.

By "cotton topcap" you must mean the cap you thread your wick through. I always assumed if you remove it it will flood the atty? I wick with strips I cut from Muji cotton pads, no filler or fluff in the tank. It is a little warm but I like it.

Oh, just wondering, in your experience, do you find yourself having to remove the GPin and dry it out down there often to keep from gurgling and leaking out the air hole? I do and wonder if that's because I don't use fluff. Perhaps I should look into getting some Sera Wool...

+ 1 for the Heron as well , it has a couple of advantages over the KFL's and the 3.1 Kayfuns besides flavor . The KF V4 narrows the gap but so many parts on the dam thing . I prefer the Rose V2 overall but it's a bit more of a PITA to build than the others mentioned .

Thanks I will look into the Rose. I'm always looking to up my flavor game. How about this Erlkonigen? It looks to me like another Kayfun...but seems to be pretty popular. I like warm vapes, usually build around 0.8 to 1.0 ohm on my RTA.

 

[slyphex]

Yes, that's what I meant by 'cotton topcap' - I don't remember what the official name is. It's to help support the wick if you use cotton, otherwise the wick will tend to lay down and lose contact with the filler since cotton lacks the rigidity of silica or Ekowool.

I ran my Heron for a while with no filler but the filler is the crowning glory of the Heron and it's really not that remarkable if you don't use it. I was impressed by its ability to vape literally the very last drop in the tank though

The filler (sera wool) was the hardest part to learn and I still struggle with it from time to time. If I overfill it, it will leak out the air hole. I usually dismantle and clean the gpin when I clean the atty, othewise I don't take it apart. I've found if I do flood it, I can tip the air hole over a paper towel and gently blow on it. This will usually clean out any juice that would otherwise leak.

I have an Erlkonigin as well and it's fantastic. If I were forced to, I would have an exceptionally hard time choosing between the two. I think you will be very happy with either. They both have benefits and drawbacks, but they are 2 of the best attys you can buy. Since I struggled with the filler material for so long, I think the Erlk is easier to build on, but other users have had no issues with the filler and I feel a bit stupid because of it.

The vape on the Erlk has more raw flavor and is easily on par with the Kayfun. The Heron is smoother and personally I prefer it. The Erlk has some benefits, like being able to see the juice level (something that's lacking with a filler build Heron) but it's more tedious to rebuild as the Heron can simply be pulled apart. I do love the nano kit on the Erlk. It is nearly as small as a dripper yet holds over 3ml of juice and is unbelievably lightweight.

I would also like to mention that all the issues I had with the KFL build design were fixed with the Erlk. Namely the pos blocks' tendency to twist, the threaded tank (the Erlk has a threaded chimney instead) and the little screw to refill with (the Erlk fills from the top with no tools).

 

[retic1959]

By "cotton topcap" you must mean the cap you thread your wick through. I always assumed if you remove it it will flood the atty? I wick with strips I cut from Muji cotton pads, no filler or fluff in the tank. It is a little warm but I like it. Oh, just wondering, in your experience, do you find yourself having to remove the GPin and dry it out down there often to keep from gurgling and leaking out the air hole? I do and wonder if that's because I don't use fluff. Perhaps I should look into getting some Sera Wool... Thanks I will look into the Rose. I'm always looking to up my flavor game. How about this Erlkonigen? It looks to me like another Kayfun...but seems to be pretty popular. I like warm vapes, usually build around 0.8 to 1.0 ohm on my RTA.

I'd think you'd be fine with the Erlk too in that range , I tend to run my Rose's hotter in the .3 to .4 range with 100%VG , the juice flow control and the ceramic cup on the Rose allows it to run hot and keep up with that build but it's not the easiest atty to build , there's more of learning curve with it but it's worth it to me . The Heron is an easier build but I generally run it in the 1 ohm range , I don't want or need to risk the spring in it by building it too hot .

 

[javyn]

Okay sweet, just ordered 3.5oz Sera Wool from Fosters and Smith, and threw in two 20 gauge needles to try my hand at dragon coils on my TOBH dripper.

I will hold off on a Rose or Konigin until I try out the fluff in my Heron. Although...that ceramic cup in the Rose will probably steer me away from that one, looks too easy to break.