Grape and Blueberry question

[Lera]

So I'm in need of help because I think I'm doing something wrong.

100% VG mix I like all though the sweetener is 100% VG so I know I have a little PG that is ok.

I want two different recipes.

1st is Grape

100% grape From LorAnn Oils
100% VG
and I also have sweetener from Wizard Labs
No Nicotine at all. The reason why I have 100 % VG is because I use the CE-5 clearomizer and my throat was hurting with a 70/30 mix so I went to 100% VG except a little PG from the sweetener and I'm good. I am just not sure how much flavor and sweetener to use. I like my juice pretty sweet.

The other Flavor is Blueberry same as above no nicotine.

I like to make 30 ml bottles. Can someone help with the amount of stuff to use? I tried the calculator but I kept getting error messages from EjuiceMeup

 

[SonHouse]

You'll want to make small test batches first until you have a feel for the amount of flavor you want to use. I haven;t worked with the LorAnn but the general suggestion is to start at 5% flavor and work up. So let's make 5 ml to start. Put 0.25 ml of flavor and 4.75 ml of VG into a vial an shake thoroughly. Not strong enough, bump it up until it tastes good. 0.05 ml is 1%. I'd start at 2% sweetener and gently move up from there. When you hit the right percentage, you can figure out how much in the 30ml. What are you testing in?

 

[SonHouse]

To give you an idea of how you'll figure out how much for the 30ml batch (I'll pretend you like 10% flavor, which is 0.1)

30mg * 0.1 = 3 mg. so you would put in 3 mg of flavor and 27 mg of VG to make 30mg.

 

[VF111]

Only use 2% sweetener, if it's EM=cotton candy. If it's straight sweetener, use a couple drops and go up from there.

 

[SonHouse]

Only use 2% sweetener, if it's EM=cotton candy. If it's straight sweetener, use a couple drops and go up from there.

Good point, I was assuming. Thanks VF111!

 

[Lera]

I'm bad in math. LOL

Sweetener I'm using is from wizard labs, flavor concentrate, water and sucalose

I just made a 30 ml bottle, and didn't measure..taste ok but now since I didn't measure yike.

 

[Lera]

To give you an idea of how you'll figure out how much for the 30ml batch (I'll pretend you like 10% flavor, which is 0.1)

30mg * 0.1 = 3 mg. so you would put in 3 mg of flavor and 27 mg of VG to make 30mg.

Thank you and about 2 ml sweetener or less?

 

[williebb123]

the 100% vg recipe plan on going toward the high end % for flavoring we all know vg is flavor gobblers and is on the sweet side too im thinking sweetner around 1% starting and flavor 15% starting and go from there have fun

 

[SonHouse]

Thank you and about 2 ml sweetener or less?

Yeah, it should be less than that. I was thinking of EM which is also sold as cotton candy flavor as well as EM. Generally they're considered to be the same around here there has to be a difference between the two since I have both and they are different colors. You have something else which is stronger so go easy on it. The 1% and then put drops in until you get where you need to be isn't a bad approach.

 

[Lera]

Thank you all, I just hope I can find the correct formula so I don't have to guess each time I make a batch of juice. The flavor comes out more when it steeps correct? Or does that even matter with zero nicotine?

 

[SonHouse]

With fruits steeping generally doesn't make a big difference. I'd just make sure to mix it very, very well. VG is thick stuff and that can make even distribution of flavor tough.

 

[stealthmayhem]

I make Bluberry like there is no tomorrow! It is actually one of my ADV. I make big batches 120ml at a time, so let me try to get the math right. For a 30ml bottle I would use 4ml of blueberry flavor, .75ml of EM, .5ml of tart to make the flavor pop. This is at 12mg 40/60(pg/vg).

 

[Ross DaBoss]

I always take notes of everything I do to a juice... that way if i find something amazing I know I can make it again! LOL

 

[Funk Dracula]

I'm a big fan of blueberry for vaping. I actually like the LA blueberry quite a lot, because it's borderline candy like, but really not so much. It's just good. I mix it with TFA marshmallow instead of a sweetner. The marshmallow adds a real creaminess/sweetness to it. To me, it ends up tasting a bit like blueberry ice-cream, which I really enjoy filling a tank of every now and then. It's not too sweet at all, just right to me.

IMO tho, I find that LA blueberry needs to be MUCH higher in % to taste good and flavorful to me.

Also, fruit flavors like blueberry don't need to be steeped at all; they're good to go after a vigorous shake. It's more tobaccos/vanillas/grains that tend to benefit and change qualities from a steep. Candy and fruit flavors on their own don't change or benefit much at all from a steep. Just give the bottle a good shake before you use it each time. I have a batch that steeped for a month and a fresh one, and I can't taste any difference at all on a dripping atty. That's just been my experience tho.. I've only been DIY'ing since around the end of May this year, but yeah, blueberry is one of the recipes I've been very happy and confident with for many, many, many batches now.

My recipe for blueberry marshmallow for 15ml using 60mg nicotine base at a target 18mg/ml strength is;

4.8ml 60mg nicotine base
6.4ml unflavored base (PG or VG)
3.8ml LA blueberry flavor
1.0ml TFA marshmallow

So for a 30ml just double that.

I always mix in smaller 15ml batches. I started out mixing bigger 60ml batches, thinking that was the "smart" thing to do; but I'm always finding improvements with recipes, and eventually realized that when it comes to DIY it's better to keep "cooking," experimenting, and perfecting you dig?

-B