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spawn

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Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been free from cigarettes for about 2 1/2 years now. I switched to vaping after numerous attempts to quit via other means failed, I tried cold turkey, patches you name it, vaping is the only thing that managed to get me off the cancer sticks.

My vaping journey was difficult at first; I started off with an ego-T and had a lot of difficulty with the silly tanks that would flood / go dry or leak. I switched to Boge cartos which improved things dramatically. The biggest difficulty I had when starting off was getting the right level of satisfaction to stem the craving for tobacco. In the first few months I would have to resort to cigarettes many times as I was just not getting what I needed from my vaping setup. The breakthrough came when I bought a Provari - with it's variable voltage I was able to get the right amount of vapor and hit that I needed to keep me on track. That was combined with a new Liquinator tank setup (also using Boge cartos). It was also around this point that I stopped using tobacco flavored juices and started experimenting with other flavors. My ADV was Peach Tea and, with some exceptions, have been on fruity flavors since then.

I have now recently (last few months) decided to upgrade (and keep up with the new improved equipment). I now have

- Provari Mini w/Extension cap (18650).
- 2 x Kayfun 3.1 clones (HCigar) - absolutely the worst quality clones (maybe I had bad luck) - the juice channels are not machined correctly so I always get dry hits on these. They've been packed away.
- 1 x Kayfun Lite Plus (authentic). The machining quality is amazing, comparing it against the clones highlights how bad the clones are! I pair this one with the Provari for my out-and-about vape - it's compact enough but can go smaller with 18350 batteries. Great flavor and vapor.
- 1 x Fogger V4 - I really love this RDA, heaps of vapor and flavor.
- 1 x Sigelei 20W. Not being used at the moment. I was using the Fogger on this one but needed more than 20W to get the most out of the Fogger, so I got:
- 1 x Sigelei 30W. I'm in vaping heaven. Fogger v4 / 24W w/ dual 2.0 coils 28 awg and cotton.

The move to RDAs was a welcome one. A huge improvement over cartos and (in my opinion) clearomisers. The learning curve is a bit steep at first but it didn't take too long to be able wind the coils perfectly and get the cotton wicking nicely - even on the Fogger which is a bit more difficult trying to wind dual coils - ensuring they're balanced in terms of resistance and getting them wound onto the two terminals at the same time! It's obviously not for every one but I really enjoy this and get great satisfaction from the improved flavor and vapor production.

I have been mixing my own liquids for over a year now - not making up recipes but just mixing up off the shelf flavors with nic ejuice. I'm now tinkering a bit with mixing up flavors myself, my newest ADV is Watermelon Iced Tea (Watermelon w/ FW Iced Tea). The biggest change since I upgraded to RDAs was getting the nic levels right. With the Fogger due to the large amount of vapor I have dropped the nic level to 2mg/ml as it was way too strong. But on the Provari/Kayfun I'm at 8mg/ml.

I am planning to step down the nic levels gradually, these days its more about the pleasure (and the hobby) of vaping than the nic 'fix'.

I've recommended vaping to many people over time that have expressed interest but I have also seen many come and go (and fail to make the switch). My recommendation for those new to vaping and hoping to leave cigarettes/tobacco behind for good is to make sure you get the right equipment when you start. Don't be cheap about it (you're still going to save money by quitting) - you want a setup that will ensure you don't have cravings for tobacco.

Anyway, thanks for reading my wall of text.
 

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I like reading others experiences :)

Glad you found what works for you! thats the great yet difficult part about starting vaping.. so many products to weed through to find what works for you!

Unfortunately not everyone has the cash to dive right into a provari. Especially on something that may not work.
As I've said a lot tonight, my #1 recommendation is an MVP2 with an EVOD or Protank2 on the cheap side, or a Nautilus BVC on the higher end. That offers a set up that most seem to be happy with for 6+months. If you are going to get into RBA that is still a good place to start until you learn the basics and get battery safety under your belt. You can still do some rebuilding on an MVP but nothing lower than about 1.4 ohms (it supports lower, but the vape isn't all that great).

just my 2 cents.
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Welcome I am too new to the forum and have a similar story to yours. Just on a shorter timeline. I was on an ego for about three months and then went to a vamo v5 still with clearos. I went to a kayfun 3.1 about a month after. Of course after learning about the necessary safety precautions on here and other pages. Learned coils mostly from rip. I work with sheetmetal so building came naturally for me.I picked up a Panzer blackhawk clone (shameful as it may be, 1/4 of the price) and aquazar rda. I've been building from .3 ohms and up with vtc5s. Singles and duals twisted and parallels (sleepers due to small post holes). Also making my own juice for about a month. DIY is quite rewarding and cost effective
Trying to recommend this for others I know but I mostly get a weird look and they ask if I have an oil machine now hahaha... oh well people fear the unknown. Lets have some fun :)
 

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I like reading others experiences :)

Glad you found what works for you! thats the great yet difficult part about starting vaping.. so many products to weed through to find what works for you!

Unfortunately not everyone has the cash to dive right into a provari. Especially on something that may not work.
As I've said a lot tonight, my #1 recommendation is an MVP2 with an EVOD or Protank2 on the cheap side, or a Nautilus BVC on the higher end. That offers a set up that most seem to be happy with for 6+months. If you are going to get into RBA that is still a good place to start until you learn the basics and get battery safety under your belt. You can still do some rebuilding on an MVP but nothing lower than about 1.4 ohms (it supports lower, but the vape isn't all that great).

just my 2 cents.
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I suppose these days most of the 'starter' equipment is pretty decent not like back in the eGo days. I'm referred many people to startup kits recently and they're all basic VV/VW devices with clearomisers. I'm not 100% familiar with the equipment you mention but I think the point is you don't have to spend a fortune to get into, having said that my Provari is over 2 years old and still going strong :)
 

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I suppose these days most of the 'starter' equipment is pretty decent not like back in the eGo days. I'm referred many people to startup kits recently and they're all basic VV/VW devices with clearomisers. I'm not 100% familiar with the equipment you mention but I think the point is you don't have to spend a fortune to get into, having said that my Provari is over 2 years old and still going strong :)

Egos are still good for a lot of people. The MVP2 is a vv/vw device that comes in at 2600 mah.. it is a box mod that turns some people off, but hey, most carried around a pack of cigarettes all day, so its not much bigger than that and a lighter.. They go for about $40 these days - not terrible, but still higher cost.. the clearos I mentioned go from like $5-30 - so I think 45 for a first setup kit is decent these days.. Plus an extra 15 for a backup ego kit.
I recommend this because there isn't a huge learning curve to the MVP2. Its not as easy as an ego, but still, set it and forget it for the most part. Its cheaper than going the ego route, getting sick of having to charge 600 mah batteries twice a day or worse, cig-a-likes... then upgrading to some apv... Another great thing is there is no worry about replacing and charging or carring extra batteries. that can easily add another $50 to any 18650 apv. They are solid devices that many users LOVE. Egos have all been knocked off with varying quality.. its a craps shoot. my vision batteries only lasted me about 6months before the batteries degraded to the point that I was having to charge both 1300mah and 900mah daily.
I still don't own a device that cost me more than $50... I'm cheap like that (and the budget is thin because my wife doesnt understand.. "Stick with what you have, your not smoking!" she says lol "ITS A HOBBY" i say)


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Egos are still good for a lot of people.

True. I think I'm just used to a lot more and remember my (bad) experiences, but like I said, they've improved a lot and yes, you would get a reasonable vape with a decent atty. But I have seem many give up vaping and go back to analogs due to not having a satisfying experience so it's important to start with the right kit. The MVP2 sounds like a good recommendation (being VV/VW) given the cost. I'm not a fan of box mods but I'm just set in my ways. To be honest they may be easier to carry around than a massive tube - I also find myself knocking it over many times as I like to stand it straight up to ensure the juice wicks properly.
 

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True. I think I'm just used to a lot more and remember my (bad) experiences, but like I said, they've improved a lot and yes, you would get a reasonable vape with a decent atty. But I have seem many give up vaping and go back to analogs due to not having a satisfying experience so it's important to start with the right kit. The MVP2 sounds like a good recommendation (being VV/VW) given the cost. I'm not a fan of box mods but I'm just set in my ways. To be honest they may be easier to carry around than a massive tube - I also find myself knocking it over many times as I like to stand it straight up to ensure the juice wicks properly.

TRUE!
I didn't like the box form factor at first, but after having the MASSIVE saber that is the 18650 SiD I got a DNA clone and LOVE the box. I think the tubes could be cut down a lot more.. I tore one of my SiD's apart and it seems like they would have better luck with stacking the boards like the Kick and then wrapping it with a screen and putting a button or three under/behind it.
I knocked that sucker (SiD) over all the time.. then it subsequently rolled onto the floor (low profile button, I think the provari button would act more like a kickstand :) )

I recently picked up a 4Nine clone, which is a SUPER SHORT mod, even in 18650 - with m Tobh atty on it (or really any other standard dripper) it is super short and pocketable, and I dont find my self knocking it over all the time. The control head on the sid with the 510 is easily over half the height of the 4nine. This seems ridiculous to me, again, given the size of the kicks that are available.

There are still a lot of bad knock off egos out there... which is a bummer for the new and unknowing vaper.. but i think the worst offenders are cig-a-likes for turning potential vapers off of vaping entirely.. I've talked a few of my relitives who have tried blu to give vaping another shot on an ego set up (there is no way I could talk them into $40 for one device, let alone adding a tank to that and a backup). they are still smoking, but cut back quite a bit by adding vaping to their "routine." which is better than all those cigs they would have smoked!!

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Ah man, now I'm thinking of going to look for a box mod lol. More $$$ :2c:

Its not "that" much more money. The MVP2 would last a lot longer (device lifespan) than the equivalent in egos - my egos lasted me 3-6 months max running 2 at a time. MVP pays for itself in a year assuming $10/ego. Plus it's of higher quality than most egos, you don't have to charge them 1+ times a day and you have higher output out of the MVP - so it will last you as you "want more from your vape" should that time ever come. Not a "great" match for rebuildables when you get there, but you can defiantly get your feet wet with them if you ever decide to go that route.

I wouldn't look at too many other box mods.. I hear the VTR is good, but if its the one I'm thinking, you can only use the "mini" style tanks on it. You start looking at 20w+ devices and I think you are diving in over your head before you have learned to swim.

most manufactured heads perform best around 8w i think - but dont quote me on that.

again, just my 2cents.

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AHH! its getting late.. I got confused on what forum I was posting on again :) you've got the experiance.. get a 20+w device.. GO NUTTS! lol
Those hana's arent much to look at (IMO) but they arent to shabby either, light, pocketable and good in a situation where you need a stealth vape (if you've got a dripper on it).

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