Halfling! Arghhhhhhh!!!

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Cjsipple

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had for over a month now, and...im totally new to carto tanks, ordered bc of the size. i dont know how to prime it, i guess?
im getting burnt dry hits idk if its not wicking fast enough or what. i need some ideas/suggestions???
im using 50/50 from hdv sometimes i will get awesome performance for a couple days on a new one. i cant seem to figure it out. ive gone through 25 cartos lol and im using clear juice. it just seems like its not hitting hard, on a new one i will sometimes get a really nice thick cloud but im guessing im not priming it correctly bc they go bad fast and vapor production is inconsistent. i dont want to get into rebuildables and all the other tanks are not good looking on the provari imo

FRUSTRATING ! ! !!!!!!!! !

i drop liquid into the carto until it is slushy and juice is coming out the holes then i will fill up the tank set my volts to 3 and take a cpl really sharp big draws to try and get the juice flowing into the carto..then i will fire taking small puffs until i take a few full draws then up the voltage to 3.9-4.1....

HELP HELP HELP!!!
 

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Maybe lower the power some, i usually run the 3.2ohm just over the 3.5 range. The other thing might be to try punching an extra hole if your vaping style is running it lean. If you notice it running lean you can drop it into the thingy and screw the cap on and off a couple of times which will re-prime the filler. The thing about these is there is very little filler in them so they have less tolerance between too wet and too dry so getting draw style/power down to match liquid going into the cartomizer is a little more critical.

I will say though that I have not gotten the life out of HalfLings that I get from Standard or XL Cartos but 25 in a month would be excessive. Using clear liquid I get between 10 and 20mls on the HalfLing where I usually get 30mls or more on the longer cartomizers. Using a dark eLiquid I have changed them at probably more like five to ten mls.
 

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its a 2.0 ohm carto..
just putting it in the thingy and screwing the cap on and off will prime it? ok.
i usually will swap out an old one at night hit it for a few mins then let it sit while i sleep..when i wake up it is usually doesnt perform well. i have pulled the filler out completely and it doesnt look like all of the filler is soaking up the juice and i have some real dark burn spots near the top. today for example i put a new one in last nite, it was vaping awesome. i woke up today and waaaaay less vapor and flavor.
 

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A 2.0ohm I would run even lower. I often notice flooding in the morning from a tank sitting. Especially if the tank was close to empty when I went to bed. Air expands and contracts with temperature change and I think this has something to do with it.

If it seems wet and gurgly in the morning pull the tank and wipe out the connector and dry off the bottom of the cartomizer with a paper towel then take several very slow long draws to clear it up. Usually works for me. That over saturation will certainly diminish flavor and vapor, it will come back as the carto begins to get used again.
 

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It looks like our 2.0ohm will be here Monday for the HalfLings. We got shorted on them on our last shipment and I see DHL has them listed as through customs as of yesterday.

That morning flood, same can happen when going from hot to cool environments or big changes in elevation is usually easy enough to clear up by wiping out the 510 connector and making sure to use very easy draws. The light draws places less vacuum on the tank each time and uses up the excess eLiquid in the cartomizer. I have also taken the paper towel, wadded up a corner to fit into the end of the cartomizer and shoved it in there for a few seconds to soak up some of the extra eLiquid in there.
 

Cjsipple

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i wont be ordering any lol i just got some 3.2ohm halflings and the same deal, last night i popped one in and it was hitting amazing great flavor and vapor at 4.1v i was happy! wake up this morning and flavor dropped off alot and the vapor is about half what i was getting initially.
very frustrating wow i dont get it
the thingy does prime the carto very well almost too well
today im getting a burnt flavor already and the vapor production has gone down alot and there are some spots that look black/brown when i pull out the dt and look at the filler... what am i doing wrong lol
 

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Have you tried different flavors? With all cartomizer tanks there is a balancing act of vaping style that has to match up with the other variables Power/Viscosity/Resistance ect...

Getting the stars to line up can be frustrating at times.

The morning after part with low vapor sounds like moisture in the connector, I get that and wipe out the connector with a paper towel. If the carto is a bit too wet wadding up a corner of the towel and sticking it into the cartomizer where the drip tip goes in will soak up the excess. Sometimes I put my tanks in a stand upside down when not in use so the liquid is below the wicking holes.

Wish i had a definitive answer for you.
 

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when i look down into the carto it looks dry..ive been repriming this 3.2 ohm carto i put in last nite in the thingy and its vaping pretty good so far..i think that has been the issue all along, im at too high volts and or my juice from hdv is just a little to thick to keep up w me.
i really really appreciate all the help ocd im not giving up :)
 

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Hey Cj, we are all in this together for the same reason. You look around this forum and it is easy to see the enthusiasm folks have once they get a delivery system that works for them. They all want to pay it down the road to the next person.

I was thinking about you this morning, right after I got up I picked up the device I was using the night before and got a thin and slightly harsh draw on it. This is something that most of the time I would not think twice about because it is pretty common. My belief is there are a couple of things at play here. One is that a little liquid in the 510 connector and an extra soaked coil are not letting it get hot enough to produce the vapor and burbling as the liquid gets air sucked through it.

The second is this is my first draws of the day, I have had a slight throat/sinus issue the last couple of days so this is amplified and I think helped me to realize it. I am not taking the kind of draw at this point in the morning that I will be after I acclimate myself back to vaping that I had not had during those hours of sleep. It is kind of like when trying your first vape, many hard core smokers who you would think would have lungs of iron against foreign material about hack up a lung when trying their first vape. This is something that as we go along we get used to, some follow that as the experience dropping off for them so they seek out more power, more vapor, more flavor. You might call that chasing the dragon.

Anyhow, back to my point. I noticed I was taking much shorter draws right off in the morning. This will not help the flooded situation because you get a prescribed amount of liquid for each draw depending on how strong of a vacuum is created so in this situation for me anyhow using a very light long draw is the best for evaporating the most liquid off the coil and pulling the least amount in. Usually within five minutes of starting it up in the morning it is hittin on all eight and I am good to go.

For the not wicking enough there are a couple of things you can do. You can thin the liquid with a few drops of distilled water or pga if you prefer or try a harder shorter draw technique. Another thing to try is something I have caught a few folks doing, this was causing the flooding problems but in your situation it might be helpful. Thing of taking a draw on a pipe or a cigar that has been smoldering, it is more of a puff puff draw. The first couple of puffs are now power as they are just to get the embers going then the draw is the payoff. What happens in your tank though is you get three vacuum/release cycle for on draw this way. That is pulling more eLiquid into the cartomizer from your tank.

Its all about finding what works for you, my words are just my own opinions on what and how it works for me but I am happy to share them if it means someone finding their solution.
 

Cjsipple

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LOL ocd!
did i mention im am totally new to cartos and cartotanks?? ..ive been vaping almost two years and finally decided to give it a shot. im glad i did, now..
you got me thinking :)
i think most of it was - the viscosity of my juice, i punched a third hole in the carto w the tool from hdv. they were running really lean. still do now w the extra hole, ...but using the thingy to reprime also helps a lot too!! i have been at 4.1v w an extra hole and reprime a couple times throughout the day and i am happy again. so far, about 10mls thru the tank and still nice vapor and flavor when they were burning up at less than half that sometimes. i am really really thankful for your help and not letting me giveup!

THANKS!!
 

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Ahh, always great to hear when a plan comes together. Tossing into the thingy for a quick reprime is handy, I have done that when I could taste a cartomizer going lean to catch me back up.

You have the whole idea down now as far as getting the feed to match the use or at least make up for any deficit. I dont think anyone is going to be spot on all the time which leads to the too wet/too dry situations. The important thing is to have a toolbox of ideas to get you heading back the right direction when you do drift.
 
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