Halo Tribeca turning dark (brownish) in Aerotank?
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Sk8man,
I have noticed the exact same thing with halo's midnight apple -- only worse than you describe. I use a kayfun most of the time, and with my other juices, I can easily go a week and sometimes more before the flavor goes south or I see discoloration of the juice in the tank. With Halo, I get two days at most. And when I open up the kayfun to rebuild, not only are my wick and coil gunked, there is a black deposit running all the way up into the chimney -- and even the inside of the drip tip. This coating wipes off easily enough, but the jet black color I am seeing all the way up in my drip tip has me worried about how much of this stuff I am actually inhaling. I'm not giving it up just yet (just love it too much to leave it), but I have started to try to approximate it via DIY (for those trying the same, experiment with dessert ship and hangsen cigar for the tobacco notes, the apple flavoring of your choice, and a bit of Koolada -- this will get you in the ballpark at least).
My best guess is that Halo must be using some kind of NETs in their tobacco line -- these are known to gunk coils and there have been many spirited debates over whether "coil killing" juices are more hazardous -- or not. Near as I can tell, the answer is: we just don't know. So you'll have to make up your own mind here, but it seems to me that it might at least be worth cleaning / changing your wicks and cleaning out your tanks more frequently with juices like these.
Good luck to you...
Steve.
I have noticed the exact same thing with halo's midnight apple -- only worse than you describe. I use a kayfun most of the time, and with my other juices, I can easily go a week and sometimes more before the flavor goes south or I see discoloration of the juice in the tank. With Halo, I get two days at most. And when I open up the kayfun to rebuild, not only are my wick and coil gunked, there is a black deposit running all the way up into the chimney -- and even the inside of the drip tip. This coating wipes off easily enough, but the jet black color I am seeing all the way up in my drip tip has me worried about how much of this stuff I am actually inhaling. I'm not giving it up just yet (just love it too much to leave it), but I have started to try to approximate it via DIY (for those trying the same, experiment with dessert ship and hangsen cigar for the tobacco notes, the apple flavoring of your choice, and a bit of Koolada -- this will get you in the ballpark at least).
My best guess is that Halo must be using some kind of NETs in their tobacco line -- these are known to gunk coils and there have been many spirited debates over whether "coil killing" juices are more hazardous -- or not. Near as I can tell, the answer is: we just don't know. So you'll have to make up your own mind here, but it seems to me that it might at least be worth cleaning / changing your wicks and cleaning out your tanks more frequently with juices like these.
Good luck to you...
Steve.
If you detect no or only insignificant change in the flavor, I'd ignore the browning. If it tastes funky, then I'd tear everything down, clean thoroughly and use fresh e-liquid.
Likely it's a combination of nicotine oxidizing and e-liquid being caramelized on the coil, then being washed off by untoned e-liquid in the tank.
This happens to me with every e-liquid I use, though a perfectly clear menthol takes longer to turn brownish.
Likely it's a combination of nicotine oxidizing and e-liquid being caramelized on the coil, then being washed off by untoned e-liquid in the tank.
This happens to me with every e-liquid I use, though a perfectly clear menthol takes longer to turn brownish.
That would do the trick, sk8man121.
I use Vision Vivi Novas (both mini and the 3.5 ml. size), so we're talking about similar devices. I save up funky-tasting Vivi Novas until I have enough to make it worth the cleaning. I disassemble all the Vivi Novas and soak the parts (including the coils) in hot water (changed several times) for a few hours. Then I chuck all the parts (except the plastic tubes!) into an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, add fresh hot water, and give everything about 10 four-minute zaps with the ultrasonic cleaner. I let everything air-dry for a few days, reassemble and dry-burn the coils. (The plastic tubes sometimes get cloudy from ultrasonic cleaning.)
Maybe one out of ten coils pops from the dry-burning. But the nine that survive then taste almost like brand-new. (The heads with popped coils get recoiled and rewicked, whenever I have enough saved up to make it worth the time to do the job.)
My guess is that coils can take this process four or five times. Sometimes, instead of popping after being dry-burned, I get high resistance (anything over about 5.0 ohms) or very low resistance (anything below about 1.5 ohms). These duds join their popped-coil colleagues in the "to be rebuilt" box.
Probably using an ultrasonic cleaner is overkill, but such treatment does make everything squeaky-clean. And I had one anyway.
I use Vision Vivi Novas (both mini and the 3.5 ml. size), so we're talking about similar devices. I save up funky-tasting Vivi Novas until I have enough to make it worth the cleaning. I disassemble all the Vivi Novas and soak the parts (including the coils) in hot water (changed several times) for a few hours. Then I chuck all the parts (except the plastic tubes!) into an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, add fresh hot water, and give everything about 10 four-minute zaps with the ultrasonic cleaner. I let everything air-dry for a few days, reassemble and dry-burn the coils. (The plastic tubes sometimes get cloudy from ultrasonic cleaning.)
Maybe one out of ten coils pops from the dry-burning. But the nine that survive then taste almost like brand-new. (The heads with popped coils get recoiled and rewicked, whenever I have enough saved up to make it worth the time to do the job.)
My guess is that coils can take this process four or five times. Sometimes, instead of popping after being dry-burned, I get high resistance (anything over about 5.0 ohms) or very low resistance (anything below about 1.5 ohms). These duds join their popped-coil colleagues in the "to be rebuilt" box.
Probably using an ultrasonic cleaner is overkill, but such treatment does make everything squeaky-clean. And I had one anyway.
All juice I have ever used- and I mostly use Halo and Alice In Vapeland-gets darker with time and repeated heating. Mixing juice left in a tank with new juice will turn the new juice darker. Short of washing a tank between refills, it will happen...
It's a dirty coil/wick which is leaching burned juice back into your tank. You need to clean out the tank whenever you change your coil/wick.
Sk8man,
Don't get me wrong -- I love me some halo, too and I agree they are a great vendor. There are lots of juices on the market that seem to gunk coils quickly (and many of these are among my favorite vapes!). So I am not singling out halo -- but I am suggesting that you might want to consider cleaning your coil, wicks and tanks a bit more often when you use a juice that discolors quickly, particularly if you also notice a lot of gunk building up in your atty. Its a pain in the ...., but with midnight apple, I clean out my kayfun every second tank full, whereas with other juices, its is more like every sixth or seventh tank before cleaning seems necessary...
--S.
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