Hangsen Crentia from FastTech.com

[Mimikim1234]

It's just my humble opinion, but for Americans, I think an American based e liquid manufacturer would be safer. We, at least those of us in America, can hold an American e liquid manufacturer legally responsible (sue them, call the appropriate authorities/watchdog groups) if they knowingly used unsafe chemicals or questionable manufacturing practices. Where would I even start if I got sick from a Chinese company's liquid? Who would I call? I don't even like to buy Chinese e liquid from American vendors; I don't know if they test the liquids at all. Do you remember what happened to all those Chinese companies that used lead in their toys? Not much, and that was for a product that is used by CHILDREN (they even found kerosene in one of those squishy eyeball toys). Sure, they got bad publicity and lost a little business (not to mention a "stern" warning from the U.S.), but it was nothing compared to what the consequences would've been for a domestic manufacturer (hefty fines, maybe even jail time). I believe whether e liquid manufacturers in America are scrupulous or not, they are held to a higher degree of accountability since we live in such litigious times. Who knows, maybe I'm being naïve?

 

[unknown_shooter]

It's just my humble opinion, but for Americans, I think an American based e liquid manufacturer would be safer. We, at least those of us in America, can hold an American e liquid manufacturer legally responsible (sue them, call the appropriate authorities/watchdog groups) if they knowingly used unsafe chemicals or questionable manufacturing practices. Where would I even start if I got sick from a Chinese company's liquid? Who would I call? I don't even like to buy Chinese e liquid from American vendors; I don't know if they test the liquids at all. Do you remember what happened to all those Chinese companies that used lead in their toys? Not much, and that was for a product that is used by CHILDREN (they even found kerosene in one of those squishy eyeball toys). Sure, they got bad publicity and lost a little business (not to mention a "stern" warning from the U.S.), but it was nothing compared to what the consequences would've been for a domestic manufacturer (hefty fines, maybe even jail time). I believe whether e liquid manufacturers in America are scrupulous or not, they are held to a higher degree of accountability since we live in such litigious times. Who knows, maybe I'm being naïve?

E-juice isn't regulated at all in the US - and Nicotine isn't extracted in here at all at the current time, so even if it is a USA manufacturer, the're using at least one foreign ingredient (nicotine).. The point being, there is no "appropriate authority" or "watchdog group" ( other than the ecig forum, right?)..

So what would you do if you got sick froma US vendor's liquid? There are no regulations, you (or your family) can sue the supplier in civil court, but you are unlikely to recover much, if anything..

I'm not certain that e-juice manufactured in a US basement or rec-room is in any way superior to e-juice bottled in China..

In the meantime, I'm rockin' the chinese juice!

 

[kato1234]

No it doesn't appear that anyone can answer the question that you asked. Which if I remember was "What is the difference between Hangsen Crentia and Hangsen." They may just be different packaging or a slightly different mix for a different market. I found this thread trying to answer the same question even checking out Hangsens home site. This is a quote from Vaporchase on one of his reviews. "Dekang don't even properly brand their bottles which just makes it harder to positively identify the genuine article. Which is a shame because real Dekang so far is surprisingly good. Others have tried to tell me that, but past experiences with Chinese juices (one of which was very bad) had me thinking "meh" at my most generous. Now I regret not trying the real thing sooner." Don't know if tis helps but at least it's on topic.

Kato

 

[Vaptor]

As far as I know China doesn't make juices that can melt plastic clearomizers.

 

[wjosephsimmons]

E-Juice isn't regulated at all in the US - and Nicotine isn't extracted in here at all at the current time, so even if it is a USA manufacturer, the're using at least one foreign ingredient (nicotine).. The point being, there is no "appropriate authority" or "watchdog group" ( other than the ecig forum, right?)..

On that subject, My Freedom Smokes sells unflavored nicotine e-liquid "made with NicSelect Vaping-Grade Nicotine. NicSelect Vaping-Grade Nicotine is the highest quality nicotine on the market and is made specifically for vaping in the only FDA inspected and approved nicotine production facility in the world" which happens to be in India. See: http://www.nicselect.com/

 

[wjosephsimmons]

As far as I know China doesn't make juices that can melt plastic clearomizers.

Really? Got some more details on that? ... I'm sick of people posting comments like this without any concrete evidence. Get the facts, than post with links to prove them.

I agree with you 100%.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I am surprised that someone here mentioned that he got some good juice from a supplier in the Philippines.

I lived in the Philippines for 5 years, and only recently moved back here to the US ... As long as I lived in the PI, I never once saw a Filipino vaping, nor did I ever see any e-cig items sold in any store over there either.

oh well

 

[shawnphase]

i read this thread before joining after doing a search for 'hangsen' (before vaping of course)..but i would say the hangsen standard is legit, i still use the dripper tip that game with the bottle, as it is very small and works great to juice into my protanks. i had the 24mg hangsen honeydew and it was great. didnt say what the pg/vg content was though. give it a try.

 

[antony73]

I vape Hangsen and Dekang only. Living in China doesn't give me much of an option.

I can get hold of imports here, but they are not cheap.

In general, Hangsen and Dekang are both sold with two different labels. I'm really not sure what is going on. I will give the main office in Hong Kong a call and speak with them. I did email them last week but haven't had a reply yet. It has been holiday season though, so maybe that's why.

Here's a picture of both Hangsen labels. The bottle on the right, I guess is the real one. Not sure!

 

[antony73]

Here is another picture of Hangsen. This is from an online vendor in China.

One side is said to be the NEW packaging, and the other on the right, an older packaging that has "a wider appeal." I think that what it reads.

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There clearly is some confusion here as to whether they are both original or one is and one isn't.

I've sent another email to the office in Hong Kong and will let you know what they say when they respond.

 

[antony73]

Just received a message from Hangsen, they've told told to compare packaging with with those on the website to check for genuine Hangsen.

E-liquid,E-Juice,Eliquid

 

[antony73]

Here is the conversation I had with Hangsen:

Q. What is the PG/VG mix of Hangsen. For example, 70/30 PG/VG, 90/10 PG/VG. Or does it vary for different flavors?
A. Yes, it vary for different flavors, we always use the best ratio for our e-liquid
Q. Some online Vendors are selling Hangsen like the picture, with two different labels. Is one fake? (The pictures that I posted above earlier)
A. Not really, some customers buy OEM labels from us, but selling genuine Hangsen e liquid. It's hard to say it's fake or genuine only by a picture.
Q. Is Crentia e-liquid the same as Hangsen?
A. Yes, it is.

This could also be the same for DeKang, in that different packaging doesn't always mean it's fake. So fasttech selling a different labelled DeKang, doesn't mean it's not the real thing, it could be the actual DeKang but from a different manufacturer.

 

[Drauder]

Lots of good information in this thread. Thanks to Calivapr for starting it. I feel pretty confident that the juices from Fasttech are genuine.

I have heard and read that Fasttech sells fakes. They clearly tell you when it is authentic or not. I have never had an issue with them. I remain somewhat skeptical but that is true with all vendors and manufacturers. I probably trust Fastech as much or more than anyone else.

As for people dumping on China for cheating, look at the baby formula scandal of 2008. Several of the people responsible were put in jail and some were executed. Western companies that cheat barely get slapped on the hand. Further, any western manufacturer uses ingredients from all over the world. Many don't even know the origin of their ingredients.

Look at the chemicals that are approved as additives to food. China does not have a monopoly on unscrupulous people.

 

[Wow1420]

Just received a message from Hangsen, they've told told to compare packaging with with those on the website to check for genuine Hangsen.

E-liquid,E-Juice,Eliquid

I recently bought 5 flavors (from FT) that came in that style bottle. 2 I didn't care for that much, 2 were quite good and one very good (melon). I've reordered melon in that package as well as a bottle in the cheaper looking package to see if it is the same flavor or not.

Over a year ago, I tried some of the Crentia and didn't like it at all, perhaps it was just the particular flavors I tried.

I'm less concerned about liquid from China than I am about the US companies that still sell liquids with diacetyl flavors.

 

[Herzeleid14]

Weird, the Hangsen i but locally the bottles look like this
http://76.my/Malaysia/hangsen-origi...-10ml-liqua-roberting-1304-06-roberting@2.jpg

 

[Art Mustel]

So what the OP is implying is that the Dekang sold by FastTech is not *real* Dekang??

Interesting.

Fast Tech sells 2 kind of Dekang E-Liquid. One of them is under $5.00, 50ml, the other is over $8.00 also for 50ml. Simple rule: avoid the cheap one, because it is rebottled somewhere else. I don't know if the more expensive is any good (I hope it is) however the cheap one is bad, or at least the 3 bottles I purchased were horrible.

 

[bioburner]

?, I had seen that US Customs doesn't like the importation of of e liquids and will seize if found. Any truth to that or just another rumor?

 

[TheRac25]

Really? Got some more details on that? What makes you think that USA juice maker isn't going to use harmful additives just to save few Bucks? All you have to do is to look at history on how many people died using gov. approved drugs etc. There is a good chance that the so called USA juices you so proudly vape are just plain relabeled China juices. I'm sick of people posting comments like this without any concrete evidence. Get the facts, than post with links to prove them.

but but that would contradict the usa mythology (sadface) (sniff)