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I remember that from my college classes.
Seems that was a just a Theory of Science class though.
I believe Applied Science was more geared towards writing grant proposals.
And how to structure conclusions that make the grantors happy.
I kid. Well, I think I kid. Well, not so sure I'm kidding.
All things in life...... Endless possibilities.
As fast as we work through one another is presented
http://www.newsweek.com/e-cigarettes-are-just-addictive-tobacco-thanks-pyrazine-additives-342447
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Funny that, just about the only thing that makes no sense to me ( at least as espoused by Skoony, btw do any other medical professionals or scientists favor this theory ? ) is the " dust theory ". Absolute non-sequitor as explained by Skoony.
Sorry, it seems I took your comment to be the opposite of what you intended.
I never took you to be on the "nicotine is not all that addictive by itself" side of things.
I noticed the complete lack of linking anything to e-cigs directly other than the mention of BT. Focus was mainly on the addition of pyrazine to tobacco.All things in life...... Endless possibilities.
As fast as we work through one another is presented
http://www.newsweek.com/e-cigarettes-are-just-addictive-tobacco-thanks-pyrazine-additives-342447
What Conspiracies?
Vaping being thrown under the bus as click-bait.
umm no not really. DC2 commented on the " dust theory " which as far as i know was first brought fore by Skoony. That's why i asked if there are other Scientists who espouse this theory
Totally Twisted.
DC2 makes a comment
You bring it back to Skoony
so yesterday
I harbor no illusion that science is apolitical. I have a nephew with a Masters in Paleontology. He now works as a warehouse manager for Pier 1 Imports. He started on his PhD work and couldn't stand the internal politics and walked away.I remember that from my college classes.
Seems that was a just a Theory of Science class though.
I believe Applied Science was more geared towards writing grant proposals.
And how to structure conclusions that make the grantors happy.
I kid. Well, I think I kid. Well, not so sure I'm kidding.
Yet you manage to contradict yourself in a single sentence.
You care enough about smokers to try to convert them to vaping. (To what end?)
But you don't care about them because you're only concerned about your choices as a (now) vaper.
Perhaps some critical self-analysis of you position is in order.
Perhaps people need to stop twisting and turning things to say what they want it to say. If a smoker wants to convert after i have introduced them to vaping as a healthier alternative it's up to them to do the research on vaping verse smoking... i am not going to do it for them and have no need to. The choices i make about vaping does not come from or have any bearing on how it compares to cigs.
VNeil has posted a lot of interesting stuff on that topic as well.umm no not really. DC2 commented on the " dust theory " which as far as i know was first brought fore by Skoony. That's why i asked if there are other Scientists who espouse this theory
I still avoid diketones, but I'm no longer so sure it is as important as I thought it might be.
But hence the length of this and other such threads.
I am not commenting on that part. The non-sequitor is the part which concludes, " diacetyl powder causes pneumoconiosis therefore diacetyl in other forms does not cause any other lung diseases i.e B.O or obstructive lung disease )
Btw all Pneumoconiosis means is " a lung disease caused by dust" so other forms of diacetyl could not lead to this particular disease " by definition ".
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I believe VBeil credited Skoony, if not i am interested to see his version of the :" dust theory " as well.VNeil has posted a lot of interesting stuff on that topic as well.
I still avoid diketones, but I'm no longer so sure it is as important as I thought it might be.
But hence the length of this and other such threads.
I don't fully avoid them, but certainly limit my exposure as best as i can. Truth is we don't know the exact causative relationship and/or at what dosage, so i chose to err on the side of caution.
I call yourAll things in life...... Endless possibilities.
As fast as we work through one another is presented
http://www.newsweek.com/e-cigarettes-are-just-addictive-tobacco-thanks-pyrazine-additives-342447
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and raise you 2 's. It will never end You don't find it just a little strange when you see "known uses" BT, from the U.S. Dept of health ? Toxicologist have been studying diketones for years,
will the public ever get the truth now that the vape community is asking for it ?
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I am trying very hard to look at your statements afresh, stepping back and reading it for what it is.
I get that you are passionate about your views on the matter.
I get that it can seem like a personal attack on you and your beliefs.
It's not my intention to make this a personal attack on you.
I want to point out how the statement you made has occurred for people reading it - it certainly did for me.
"I try to convert every smoker i know that crosses my path…"
Implies that you have concerns about the impact of smoking on people. (A laudable position, one that I endorse and do so myself when possible.)
"… but…"
Creates an exceptional clause.
"… i don't care about smokers…"
A statement of position or belief, which is contradictory to the implication of your first statement.
… because smoking statistics compared to vaping are no longer relevant for me as a vaper and the choices i make as a vaper."
Justifies the position or belief.
Does this make sense to you?
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