I just looked and it appears smokestik is way more expensive then Bloog...19.95 for a 5 pack of cartos? and no flavors at all just nic levels and menthol..
Have both--comparison of V4L crystal and Bloog MaxxFusion-interesting results!
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don't have time for a full comparison, but i can comment... got the smokestik hendu a while back and it is a very solid ecig. the flavors are typical meh and they have hard caps so not as easy to pop off, but you can always condom fill. they are more expensive, the cartos price is ridiculous, but they are very consistent, dont seem to burn and the batt lasts for quite a while. however, good performance requires a primer puff, and a long slow hit, and vapor production is nothing to write home about.
so i gave it to my roommate and he uses the thing every day. it was my recommendation for a while when smokers would ask me what to get. i would recommend the smokestik if they had the money because they DO work as advertised, charge, screw on new carto and no fuss. that is what 90% of smokers need to get started. solid starter ecig rather than almost all other kits on the market.
however, i would now recommend the bloog. people say its expensive, but not compared to other "charge and screw" cig size batteries that the average user needs. in fact they are on the low end of the spectrum for a quality product that is not in the mod category or just buying some 510 or ego batts. the smokestik kit is $100 and doesnt have a PCC (only includes two batts, 3 cartos, a charger, and a standard crappy case... wtf?) the bloog has more/better vapor, a very good batt, and either PCC works just fine, something missing from the smokestik line up. another reason is if people get used to using it, they can order a bottle of juice, pop the very soft cap off and see the dripping to fill method. just from experience, this is very easy for these type of users to do and not too much to ask.
so.... bloog
btw, the mini pcc is awesome and since the battery in it is standard and replaceable, i picked up a bunch for about $5 a piece. so the pcc, two batts, a handful of charged pcc batteries and a bottle of juice and im good to go for a long time. only annoying thing is that it doesn't carry extra cartos, but thats the price to pay for such a slim/small form factor. its a tiny bit smaller than my HD2.
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don't have time for a full comparison, but i can comment... got the smokestik hendu a while back and it is a very solid ecig. the flavors are typical meh and they have hard caps so not as easy to pop off, but you can always condom fill. they are more expensive, the cartos price is ridiculous, but they are very consistent, dont seem to burn and the batt lasts for quite a while. however, good performance requires a primer puff, and a long slow hit, and vapor production is nothing to write home about.
so i gave it to my roommate and he uses the thing every day. it was my recommendation for a while when smokers would ask me what to get. i would recommend the smokestik if they had the money because they DO work as advertised, charge, screw on new carto and no fuss. that is what 90% of smokers need to get started. solid starter ecig rather than almost all other kits on the market.
however, i would now recommend the bloog. people say its expensive, but not compared to other "charge and screw" cig size batteries that the average user needs. in fact they are on the low end of the spectrum for a quality product that is not in the mod category or just buying some 510 or ego batts. the smokestik kit is $100 and doesnt have a PCC (only includes two batts, 3 cartos, a charger, and a standard crappy case... wtf?) the bloog has more/better vapor, a very good batt, and either PCC works just fine, something missing from the smokestik line up. another reason is if people get used to using it, they can order a bottle of juice, pop the very soft cap off and see the dripping to fill method. just from experience, this is very easy for these type of users to do and not too much to ask.
so.... bloog
btw, the mini pcc is awesome and since the battery in it is standard and replaceable, i picked up a bunch for about $5 a piece. so the pcc, two batts, a handful of charged pcc batteries and a bottle of juice and im good to go for a long time. only annoying thing is that it doesn't carry extra cartos, but thats the price to pay for such a slim/small form factor. its a tiny bit smaller than my HD2.
Ok That's what I wanted to know. I have a Bloog kit, and sometime soon I will order another. I was thinking of trying the SmokeStik, but all of your points lead me back to Bloog. $19.95 is way too much for a pack of carts. I have so much equipment that I don't really have to order a whole kit this time, just another battery or two and some carts. Thanks.
Sorry to revive an old thread but just wanted to say thanks for this review. EXACTLY what I was googling for. I've got a couple of standard generic kr808's and v4l WOW blanks and working good but batts are showing some age. Got a friend who picked up a DS batt and loves it so I've been pondering if the additional cost of the bloog batts has any merit over a DS. Definitely will try some bloog cartos as the design is different and i'm always looking for a better carto. My foray into the CE2's failed miserably and left a bad taste in my mouth (quite literally). My only concern is that I differ from the "average vaper" in that I fill with some thick 100% VG juices (avejuice.com's Flue Cured and Verry Berry Blueberry, the latter of which i lovingly call my blueberry motor oil buts its most definitely even thicker than motor oil). But I think that just means that at worst I will only have wasted money on cartos and the batt will at least be fine. The high shipping cost has kept from ordering just the cartos already cause if i'm going to pay that much in shipping i will wait until the batts are back in stock and order then.
Oh... also forgot to ask... Is there any noticeable difference in battery life? and has your opinion changed at all after a few weeks?
Here is my current opinion....BMF is the very best there is in every way. V4L is very good and with the sales they offer to the
V4L family you can get up to 40% off the list prices. The Bloog CS in my opinion is absolutely terrible (I'll skip the saga) while the V4L speed of delivery and CS is superb.
Quality of BMF has V4L beat. Quality of V4L is o.k. but you need to know how to pull a post up on many carts, etc.
V4F crystal and Bloog are both good products....but have different issues. Quality of products, quality of CS and price point should all be considered individually by the customer.
Lo: ya but dont you think the lipo tech will pour out to everywhere so that soon every vendor can get the tech....Nhaler allready has'em... So its not the MF, its just the lipo tech thats the best.
Im a little dissapointed about them taking a product as good as softcap Kangers, change a couple of little details and blowing them up like its the newest and best n blablabla, when horisontal coil cartos were allready available several other places... Im vapin em right now and i tell you, theyre the same, exept these CAN handle VG..
Starting to think those who yelled the emperers new clothes, back when v4l got the hype, was right...
Feel alittle cheated.... but hey its just business.. i get it... Why dont any of you care where things come from? what if your fav thing suddenly went of the list at your vendors? you wouldnt know where to go and get them?
Im a little dissapointed about them taking a product as good as softcap Kangers, change a couple of little details and blowing them up like its the newest and best n blablabla, when horisontal coil cartos were allready available several other places... Im vapin em right now and i tell you, theyre the same, exept these CAN handle VG..
Starting to think those who yelled the emperers new clothes, back when v4l got the hype, was right...
Feel alittle cheated.... but hey its just business.. i get it... Why dont any of you care where things come from? what if your fav thing suddenly went of the list at your vendors? you wouldnt know where to go and get them?
It's not just the switch or the battery (in fact its the switch size more than the battery chemistry that increases total mah vs length in these bloogs) but also the cartomizer resistance vs battery voltage, these things are putting out the same wattage as a 2.0 ohm boge cartomizer on an ego, a pretty good vape in my opinion.
These are not kanger's they are from eigate as has been said before.
These are not kanger's they are from eigate as has been said before.
And your basing this on? Only heard of Kanger, Smoore and Boge. Im basing the Kanger theori on dissection of both cartos.. And that the kangers go like hand in glove on the MF batt...The pcc was found at a site, damn what was it called? Ill go tjeck..
Hangsen. Dont know if they are just a chinese vendor or the manu, but theres practicly no kr8 stuff on there, other than the mini pcc. They are all bout the 510 and a little on 401 and other mini minis..
How long was it a v4l shorty is? A Kanger shorty is 65, according to Ivapors site.(dont have one)
Hangsen. Dont know if they are just a chinese vendor or the manu, but theres practicly no kr8 stuff on there, other than the mini pcc. They are all bout the 510 and a little on 401 and other mini minis..
How long was it a v4l shorty is? A Kanger shorty is 65, according to Ivapors site.(dont have one)
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