Have my vaping stuff but still caved in and smoked today :(
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As most suggested up the nic in your fav juice and consider another PV which may be more satisfying. I have all my bottomfeeder mods all loaned out otherwise I'd let you try one.
My bottom coil something or other (Kanger) should be here in a day or so... I hear they're pretty nice and combined with the Ego I bought after hearing VV is better, I should get a much better experience. I've just being using the tiny cig-alikes. It's like smoking air, kinda, and the battery life is horrible.
I don't trust anyone with them. I do have some home made WoodChucks
....and the "Brick" VVWoodchuck
If you use 36mg unflavored liquid, adding 20% to your 11mg liquid (4/1 ratio) will result in approximately 18mg, while 25% (3/1 ratio)will get you in the 20mg range. This will dilute the flavor of your liquid somewhat, but may be the best way to go to get rid of the cravings. It looks like a 30ml bottle of 36mg unflavored liquid is all you'd need. Get it in a 50/50 pg/vg ratio if you can so your liquid doesn't become too thin or thick. Good luck!
if you're going with VV and tank mods, it might be best to keep your nic level where it is or even cut it in half to 6mg - reason being, you will go thru much more liquid with high-powered rigs than with a mini. You're gonna want to smoke that VV like a freight train - unlimited almost liquid, big battery, who could ask for more, right? Except, more juice used, means more nicotine intake.
Now let's review some math: Let's take your 36mg/ml bottle for instance. in 5ml you would have 180mg nicotine (5ml x 36mg/ml =180mg in 5ml). If you cut that 5ml with VG or PG by 50% (add 5ml of PG/VG) then you will have 1 0mils of 18mg/ml liquid. Your 11mg liquid cut 50% gives you 10mls of 5.5mg/ml. Pretty simple, right?. Now, let's say, you have another bottle of 11mg that's 5ml and you want to punch it up. If you combine 5ml of the newly created 18mg with the entire 5ml second bottle (11mg), you will end up with, yes, 10mls at 14.5mg nicotine per mil (18x5=90 plus 11x5=55 for a total of 145mg divided by 10ml equals 14.5mg/ml). Alternately, if you have 5ml of 36mg/ml and add 5ml straight to the second 5ml bottle you will have 10 mils of a 23.5mg/ml solution (36x5ml=180mg plus 11x5ml=55mg divided by 10).
oookayyy, TTRP, I hear you say, that's fine and dandy, but I'm a newbieeee, I don't have any way to measure things as small as 5 mils! Is it a teaspoon ful? No worries, go to the grocery store and buy a few of the twist-cap travel bottles over where the travel-size stuff is (and some laytex or non-laytex gloves (you don't want bacteria from your hands growing in your juice do you????) and a permanent type marker). Wash, rinse, dry the bottle(s) and clear yourself a sterile area (dining room table for instance) to play mad scientist. Don your gloves. Grab a full 5ml bottle of your 11mg liquid. Use the marker to draw a line on the outside of the bottle to indicate where the top of the liquid in the bottle is (the 5ml mark). Pop the dripper top and dump the contents of that bottle into your newly washed, rinsed and dried travel bottle. Cap this, and set aside. Use the now empty 5ml bottle to slowly and carefully measure out 5mls of the 36mg (or 18mg or 0mg) solution to the mark you made with your marker. Add this to the existing solution in your travel bottle. Cap. Shake *gently* and then pour out half (5ml) back into your original marked 5ml bottle. Pop the dripper top back on and cap both bottles. Clearly mark your travel bottle that now contains the remaining 5ml of liquid with the strength and date 'born' and store all your liquids in a cool, dry place away from children, pets and inlaws. Wipe down your mad scientist work surface of any spills, toss the gloves, wash your hands, load up your rig and celebrate having aced both Vaper Math 101A and ELiquid DIY 101A in one day.
Good luck and Happy Vaping!
Now let's review some math: Let's take your 36mg/ml bottle for instance. in 5ml you would have 180mg nicotine (5ml x 36mg/ml =180mg in 5ml). If you cut that 5ml with VG or PG by 50% (add 5ml of PG/VG) then you will have 1 0mils of 18mg/ml liquid. Your 11mg liquid cut 50% gives you 10mls of 5.5mg/ml. Pretty simple, right?. Now, let's say, you have another bottle of 11mg that's 5ml and you want to punch it up. If you combine 5ml of the newly created 18mg with the entire 5ml second bottle (11mg), you will end up with, yes, 10mls at 14.5mg nicotine per mil (18x5=90 plus 11x5=55 for a total of 145mg divided by 10ml equals 14.5mg/ml). Alternately, if you have 5ml of 36mg/ml and add 5ml straight to the second 5ml bottle you will have 10 mils of a 23.5mg/ml solution (36x5ml=180mg plus 11x5ml=55mg divided by 10).
oookayyy, TTRP, I hear you say, that's fine and dandy, but I'm a newbieeee, I don't have any way to measure things as small as 5 mils! Is it a teaspoon ful? No worries, go to the grocery store and buy a few of the twist-cap travel bottles over where the travel-size stuff is (and some laytex or non-laytex gloves (you don't want bacteria from your hands growing in your juice do you????) and a permanent type marker). Wash, rinse, dry the bottle(s) and clear yourself a sterile area (dining room table for instance) to play mad scientist. Don your gloves. Grab a full 5ml bottle of your 11mg liquid. Use the marker to draw a line on the outside of the bottle to indicate where the top of the liquid in the bottle is (the 5ml mark). Pop the dripper top and dump the contents of that bottle into your newly washed, rinsed and dried travel bottle. Cap this, and set aside. Use the now empty 5ml bottle to slowly and carefully measure out 5mls of the 36mg (or 18mg or 0mg) solution to the mark you made with your marker. Add this to the existing solution in your travel bottle. Cap. Shake *gently* and then pour out half (5ml) back into your original marked 5ml bottle. Pop the dripper top back on and cap both bottles. Clearly mark your travel bottle that now contains the remaining 5ml of liquid with the strength and date 'born' and store all your liquids in a cool, dry place away from children, pets and inlaws. Wipe down your mad scientist work surface of any spills, toss the gloves, wash your hands, load up your rig and celebrate having aced both Vaper Math 101A and ELiquid DIY 101A in one day.
Good luck and Happy Vaping!I see this kind of post a lot: "I threw away my cigs, then xyz happened and I bought a pack of smokes, I've failed" or "I switched because I want to quit smoking so I bought 6mg juice, but it didn't quell the craving, so I smoked, I've failed"... New vapers often fall into the same trap of "this has to be all or nothing, and if I have a cig I've failed" and it simply isn't true.
Noobs seem to place way too much pressure on themselves, and in doing so set themselves up for failure by thinking they had 1 cigarette so that means its all over. Think of it this way, you didn't get addicted to nicotine with the first cigarette you smoked, and you probably didn't start smoking a pack a day when you first started either. Smoking involves an addiction to nicotine, but it also becomes many little rituals and is a habit as well. Those rituals and habits are almost as hard to break as the addiction.
Even the best cigalike on the market is still pretty different from smoking. It involves its own rituals and habits which take time to adjust to. When I started with my first cigalike I did things like go outside to the smoking area on break to vape (which I still do), and use an ashtray as a "vape stand". I even flicked it when I used it like I was ashing it.
To wrap up this long-winded rant, you have in no way failed unless you threw away your vape gear and bought a carton of smokes. Even if you still enjoy having a smoke after dinner or on the ride home from work, thats still only a fraction of what you probably used to smoke. Every time you choose to replace a smoke with a vape you are winning! Don't be so hard on yourself! Give yourself time to make the transition, you are doing fine!!!
Noobs seem to place way too much pressure on themselves, and in doing so set themselves up for failure by thinking they had 1 cigarette so that means its all over. Think of it this way, you didn't get addicted to nicotine with the first cigarette you smoked, and you probably didn't start smoking a pack a day when you first started either. Smoking involves an addiction to nicotine, but it also becomes many little rituals and is a habit as well. Those rituals and habits are almost as hard to break as the addiction.
Even the best cigalike on the market is still pretty different from smoking. It involves its own rituals and habits which take time to adjust to. When I started with my first cigalike I did things like go outside to the smoking area on break to vape (which I still do), and use an ashtray as a "vape stand". I even flicked it when I used it like I was ashing it.
To wrap up this long-winded rant, you have in no way failed unless you threw away your vape gear and bought a carton of smokes. Even if you still enjoy having a smoke after dinner or on the ride home from work, thats still only a fraction of what you probably used to smoke. Every time you choose to replace a smoke with a vape you are winning! Don't be so hard on yourself! Give yourself time to make the transition, you are doing fine!!!
Don't give up!!! I am on my 5th day... I wanted to smoke an analog tonight because i have been drinking a little, and all of a sudden i realized that I HAVEN'T smoke 50 cigarettes this week. Instead i decided to try to learn how to blow Vape rings. I want to echo everyone here and say be proud of yourself, and keep going. One analog is not a slip up, its nothing - stay positive.
It all sounds so corny, but everyone here understands, that has been the difficult part for me to realize. This is the place where people understand the emotions, habit, craving, uncertainty, mistakes, and even the down right impossible to explain aspects of wanting to smoke.
KEEP IT UP!
It all sounds so corny, but everyone here understands, that has been the difficult part for me to realize. This is the place where people understand the emotions, habit, craving, uncertainty, mistakes, and even the down right impossible to explain aspects of wanting to smoke.
KEEP IT UP!
The main thing is to not get discouraged. Like everyone else said, you're smoking less so you're winning. Even if you have one or two a day for the rest of your life you're still smoking less. You will get to where vaping is all you need and want. To tell the truth, after three years of vaping I tried an analog. It was one of the nastiest things I've ever tasted. You'll make it.
Yeah, I echo/ditto what the others are saying: Not failure; up the nicotine. The mindset is a key factor for me. If I had told myself "This is it, you're done with cigarettes!" I'd be thinking about it constantly. Instead, I just didn't think about it. I was amazed at the hours that went by. I'm still doing some of my old habits (smoking 1st thing in the morning, maybe after a meal, etc.) but the fact that I'm not smoking every 20-60 minutes is freaking amazing. Allowing myself that freedom actually is helping me to not smoke (I'm such a rebel!). I was smoking 30 a day, now it is 1 or 2.
Take care, best wishes and happy vaping!
Take care, best wishes and happy vaping!
Darn right! I still have an occasional cig even though I said I never would. After a month I had one as an experiment: I expected it to be seriously yucky, or like meeting up with a long-lost friend. It was neither. It was okay, but the craving was no longer there. Now, if I want to I can enjoy an occasional smoke (and I do still enjoy it!), without worrying about taking on the expense and stink and health damage I was into before.
I generally vape 12mg juice, and it works fine for me. But I've learned to keep some 18mg and some 24mg on hand for those times I feel a craving. Works every time. Since I favor the tobacco flavors, it's easy to mix a little 24mg into whatever's in my tank, just to boost the nic intake for a while. I've also found that vanilla is good mixed into my tobacco flavors, so I keep a few ml of 18mg vanilla on hand as well.
Best of luck, don't be too hard on yourself, and vape on!
In looking back through this post, and reflecting on my own journey, I feel more and more that ECF is much more than just a great place to get your questions answered and find out about the newest vape-gear. Honestly, it's a great support group! They always say when you're trying to quit a vice you should join some sort of support group to increase your chances of success. No matter what struggle you go through with quitting (people telling you "these things are worse" or "you're just trading one addiction for another") we've all been through it and know the truth, and therefore are invested in our own success as well as the success of all the others out there who remind is to "stay calm, and vape on" lol...
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216. Two Hundred & Sixteen times I said no to cigarettes but since I'm STUPID I decided I could wait for my FT order to have a couple of backup eGo batteries and loaned my cigalikes to family. eGo runs outta power and I cave in and smoke.
Now I have to start that STUPID banner all over again?? omg I'm so mad.
Now I have to start that STUPID banner all over again?? omg I'm so mad.
I failed several times and went back to analog's until I threw my analog's out. Once I did that I never went back! Good luck! You can do it!
It took me a little over a week to get of the smokes. I took my e-cig outside when I went to smoke. Puff off a cig, puff off the PV. By the end of that time I couldn't stand the taste or smell of cigarettes any more. That was over 3 years ago. It takes time, don't try to rush it.
Same here, Pack a day down to one or maybe to a day as of now, 2 weeks in. Morning coffee and after lunch are the urges that kick my ....
Don't get down on yourself...at least now you know to have backups for your backups and ALWAYS remember to charge those batts! I know how it feel though, you think you're past a certain point and that you can ease up and handle it, and then something happens to kind of remind you that you're not as far along as you thought. It's OK--you'll find picking up the vape again as easy as it was before. I think the less you start to fear smoking, the more you actually have control over it. You'll get there!
I sometimes have one of my friends southern cuts because they were my favorite and I do still like them (nowhere near vaping) but I don't crave them like I did.. I haven't bought a pack since i started so i still consider it a victory to me knowing I have lost the addiction
Others have said this but it bears repeating: Cut yourself some slack! If it's an all or nothing proposition you're always going to loose. Since you were already a smoker, look at analog smoking as the norm and then see every vape as a VICTORY!
I smoked a pack a day before vaping and started at 24mg. I'm down to 9mg now and quite happy.
Keep vaping. Your taste for analogs will slowly but surely vanish.
I smoked a pack a day before vaping and started at 24mg. I'm down to 9mg now and quite happy.
Keep vaping. Your taste for analogs will slowly but surely vanish.
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