Have you become a lazy vaper?

[tonyorion]

My meaning with that question is at what point does one stop messing around with rebuilding and trying out new coil systems and come to the realization that the sole purpose of this whole vaping deal is to quit and stay off analogs, although there are people out there who are into vaping who have never smoked? Messing around with RBA's was starting to become more of impediment to staying off analogs than a help.

Analogs have one huge advantage over ecigs: you can go into any convenience store, supermarket, gas station, etc. anywhere in the US (and world, basically), and buy the same brand you have been smoking for years. There was never a danger of throwing a nicotine fit anywhere by running out. I travel quite a bit for work and pleasure, even though I am supposed to be semi-retired, so my thinking is shaped by my lifestyle. My mantra is never be without a working ecig. I get a little paranoid about that so when I am moving around I tend to get a little ridiculous with redundancy. While I have all kinds of vv mods near/around home, I travel with twists for convenience. That automatically eliminates low ohm vaping.

Now, I think I can wrap coils with the best of them and have even rebuilt 510's successfully in fear of Vapeagedon. Talk about a pain!

I have gone through the entire evolution of RBA's from silica to ss mesh, ceramic, micro coils and cotton. I might get a week to 10 days of vaping on a good coil, sometimes a lot less. The unpredictability of coil life was just unacceptable for my lifestyle.

Sorry Imeo, your stuff is just too expensive, difficult to get, and too hard to maintain for someone who moves around a lot. The price differential to a Genesis or micro coil/cotton system in vape quality is just not justifiable in my eyes. At least I did not lose any money when I dumped your stuff.


So, these days I am quite happy vaping my bottom coil Kangers in all the incarnations. Of course, I have modded them a bit. The stock heads are cheap, small and easy to carry, and can be swapped out in seconds. I just rebuilt some with different wicks and micro coils, but they are staying around home until I can get a read on performance/durability.

I just got a bunch of cheap RDA's from Fasttech which I use for DIY juices. They are about the same price as a 510 atty, but a lot easier to clean when experimenting with juices.

I can look forlornly at the guys blowing huge clouds with their sub ohm stuff, but not for me.

My BC's may not give the ultimate experience in vaping, but they sure are convenient and perform more than well enough to keep me off analogs. My new attitude has even helped my relationship with my lady friend who is a Blu advocate. I could never understand here plug and play attitude, and she could never understand my drive to tinker. We are now both happy not having to kiss someone who tastes like an ashtray. She does like some of my juices, though.

In vaping, there is no right or wrong. It's only what works for you.

 

[DSullivan]

I can feel exactly what you are saying. Sometimes I am in the mood to tinker, sometimes the time it takes to fill carto's, change, clean and charge batteries, mess with all the juice bottles, etc gets really old. Perhaps somewhere down the line in the evolution of vaping, they will reach the smoke and go ease of analogs. Just when, where, and how it will present itself, is anyone's guess.

 

[dice57]

Hmm, just the opposite. Sure when I get a new style rba, I play with it to find the best build possible, but once it's coiled the way I like, don't have to mess with it for weeks. Depending on which is my main tank I'm using and the build. Use mainly micro coils, vertical mounted and horizontal, depending on the atomizer. May have to rewick once a week but that takes no longer than switching out a changeable. Dry burn the coil, rewick saturate, good to go. On my Term-C, I have an SS mesh cotton core hybrid build, and haven't touched it for a month. Still great vape. Going to mess with it after I finish the juice I am using in it, have a couple improvement in mind, but have run 50 ml through it with no maintenance.

To me, the flavor vape and watts that I vape, can not be matched by a beginners/intermediate atomizer like a Kanger or iclear. Plus I can buy 50' of wire for $6 and a lifetime supply of cotton for $2.50 and not have to buy coil heads or coil supplies for a year. Also my rba's capacity range from a low of 3ml, to 6ml tanks. Lot less hassle then dealing with a leak prone PT, and their muted taste.

But, something for everyone. Go what works best for you, plus, none of my rba's will shatter if dropped, all are full metal jacket SS Tanks.

 

[tattooed]

ditto what dice said. I've found what works for me and I don't typically sway from it. Yesterday I tried a microcoil just to have an understanding of what people have reported vs sub ohms but once I find something that works, I run with it until it no longer satisfies, in my case I believe I finally hit my sweet spot after vaping for several years.

 

[Rule62]

I guess I would classify myself as a 'lazy hobbyist'. I like to keep up with the latest gear; and I have a decent collection of mods and attys as a result. When I get a new device, I will fool around with it only to the point to where I believe it is performing well; and then I stop. I don't do complicated builds, like multiple wicks or coils. For me, the simpler the better. I don't rebuild just for the sake of rebuilding. I rebuild or re wick only when necessary; and when I rebuild, I re build with the same set up that I found to work previously. I have some Kayfun lites that have had the same micro coil in them for months. I have a couple DIDs that have had the same single mesh wick and coil in them for even longer.

 

[bosun]

Not lazy, but perhaps I have an easily reached level of contentment (g). Been using an IGO L as I sit at my computer. Rebuilt a few coils, have the meters, a hundred feet of Kanthal, lighted magnifier (old eyes), cotton balls, etc. This coil in the IGO is probably about a month old with pretty constant use. Been waiting for it to break so I can build and try a dual coil. Life is so hard (g)..

 

[Thrasher]

Im with rule, I used to try keeping up with the build of the month but all i see (to me) is slightly more and more fiddling and preparation for a minute increase in performance or flavor, so I dropped back to the old standards that work exceptionally well. I have drippers with coils in them several weeks old, my kayfun wick was set up around a month ago and I think i recoiled my cobra and megatron sometime in sept.

for me anyways i think it comes down to the months and months I spent playing and perfecting standard builds to perform exceptionally well before all these other builds appeared so that all these new ways of doing things just dont net any major rewards for the time involved. so now i basically wrap and go and be done with it.

 

[nebulas]

I will admit it, I am a lazy vaper. I rebuild my genesis once every 4-6 weeks and mix my juice in batches of about 120ml (although my last batch was ~160ml). I am at the point where I know what works for me and what I like. No need to fiddle and test different things. I am content with how everything is so no need to do anything different.

 

[Kevin littell]

I kinda went the opposite way...


I .... canned all the rebuildable's and went back to a carto tank.....


Tired of f-ing with them......

 

[Jellyfish]

It's funny, but I was thinking about this exact topic a day or two ago. Close to a year ago I tried several clearomizers, tank systems and rebuildables and settled in with the Bulli-Smoker A2-TMs and used them exclusively. About a month ago I looked around ECF to see what was getting the latest raves. First I got a couple of ProTank IIs and liked them with the cotton wick and microcoil setup. Shortly thereafter I picked up a Kayfun Lite Plus and liked that even more with pretty much the same coil as I use in the PT. So I ordered a Russian 91% (only because it was readily available). These latter two were splurges and will be used for my ADVs, while the ProTanks will be used for everything else.

So like some of the posters here, I've found what I like and I don't need to chase down everything under the sun. Essentially, for me at least, it boils down to the fact that I like something that provides pretty good flavor and is not a pain in the rear to maintain. So I am planning on keeping my 'lazy vaper' status for the next year when I may look around to see if there is a lazier way of doing things!

 

[donnah]

I wouldn't call myself a lazy vaper. I get a thrill out of finding easier, quicker and more efficient ways to do things and vaping is no exception. I used carto tanks for a long time. At the time I was thrilled to be able to vape without having to drip or refill so often. But after awhile, I could taste the filler and the gunked coil so I set out in search of something new. I got into genesis attys and mesh. I loved the vape and for a while, the hassle of getting the coil just right and keeping it upright was worth it. But for me, mesh just wasn't good unless it was in a .8Ω coil on a mech and I wanted to be able to use the provaris. So then I started searching for something that gave me the vape of a genesis with mesh but didn't require so much attention and such low resistance. The kayfun lite fit the bill perfectly. Micro coils and cotton made it easy to keep my coil clean and the flavor fresh. I was then able to bring new life to my genesis attys with micros and cotton and use them on my provaris. A reo grand with a rm2 made it even easier.

I'm not into complicated builds. I like to play but only to find ways to make it easier and quicker. I bought a fogger v2 and the vape was good but not good enough to deal with taking it apart as often as I needed to. I can drain, clean, dryburn, rewick, reassemble and fill a kayfun in 5 minutes and 4 seconds. I can rewick my rm2 in less time than that. Dryburning and rewicking my DIDs is now quick and easy too.

While I like to play, I also need gear that I don't have to spend bunches of time to get the vape I want if I'm not in the mood or don't have the time. Silica was ok but I couldn't just slide it out, dryburn the coil and slide more in... I'd have to wrap a new coil each time. Micro coils and cotton was a definite game changer for me.. the coils last a long time and cotton is dirt cheap.

I'm not really interested in dual or quad coils. I played around with rebuilding a protank style atty, an evod and spent some time on vivi novas but the flavor was just never there for me.

edit... LOL maybe I am a lazy vaper after all!

 

[tmassey]

For my daily vape I use an evod rebuilt with a vertical micro coil and cotton. I have accumulated 18 heads. Each one lasts about 3 days so I only have to rewick every other month. So with them I am definitely lazy, mainly cuz I LOVE them and love the way they vape,but surprisingly I HATE my protank!!! Like that it uses evod heads and has more liquid but it floods and dry hits. so I Got a kayfun clone coming which I expect to love and probably be lazy with. However with my 3 rda's and 2 genies I rebuild almost every time I use them,not lazy with them, always feel like there's room for improvement. Sure there are other, like me, kinda lazy vapers out there

 

[josho]

Exactly why I drip. I know what resistance works for me and what it takes to get there. I have extra rbas to tinker with and my "daily driver" which takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

Dripping on an RDA has kept me off cigs longer and more satisfied than any other option. I keep a few pinches of cotton and a couple of feet of kanthal at work in case I have to rewick or coil, but haven't needed to.

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[WattWick]

I'm a lazy gennie user. That's what I love the most about using gennies. Not having to rebuild them and/or change heads/wicks/coils every few days. I did not enjoy having to fiddle with clearo heads to make them work to my liking, or replace them after a couple of days. That was the opposite of being a lazy vaper to me.

Having a few mesh wicks from previous rebuild sessions, actually rebuilding one if need/want be is just a matter of wrap, pulse, vape. Occasionally I try something new or set up a dripper... most of the time I just want to press that button and get my fix.

 

[BardicDruid]

My meaning with that question is at what point does one stop messing around with rebuilding and trying out new coil systems and come to the realization that the sole purpose of this whole vaping deal is to quit and stay off analogs, although there are people out there who are into vaping who have never smoked? Messing around with RBA's was starting to become more of impediment to staying off analogs than a help.

Analogs have one huge advantage over ecigs: you can go into any convenience store, supermarket, gas station, etc. anywhere in the US (and world, basically), and buy the same brand you have been smoking for years. There was never a danger of throwing a nicotine fit anywhere by running out. I travel quite a bit for work and pleasure, even though I am supposed to be semi-retired, so my thinking is shaped by my lifestyle. My mantra is never be without a working ecig. I get a little paranoid about that so when I am moving around I tend to get a little ridiculous with redundancy. While I have all kinds of vv mods near/around home, I travel with twists for convenience. That automatically eliminates low ohm vaping.

Now, I think I can wrap coils with the best of them and have even rebuilt 510's successfully in fear of Vapeagedon. Talk about a pain!

I have gone through the entire evolution of RBA's from silica to ss mesh, ceramic, micro coils and cotton. I might get a week to 10 days of vaping on a good coil, sometimes a lot less. The unpredictability of coil life was just unacceptable for my lifestyle.

Sorry Imeo, your stuff is just too expensive, difficult to get, and too hard to maintain for someone who moves around a lot. The price differential to a Genesis or micro coil/cotton system in vape quality is just not justifiable in my eyes. At least I did not lose any money when I dumped your stuff.


So, these days I am quite happy vaping my bottom coil Kangers in all the incarnations. Of course, I have modded them a bit. The stock heads are cheap, small and easy to carry, and can be swapped out in seconds. I just rebuilt some with different wicks and micro coils, but they are staying around home until I can get a read on performance/durability.

I just got a bunch of cheap RDA's from Fasttech which I use for DIY juices. They are about the same price as a 510 atty, but a lot easier to clean when experimenting with juices.

I can look forlornly at the guys blowing huge clouds with their sub ohm stuff, but not for me.

My BC's may not give the ultimate experience in vaping, but they sure are convenient and perform more than well enough to keep me off analogs. My new attitude has even helped my relationship with my lady friend who is a Blu advocate. I could never understand here plug and play attitude, and she could never understand my drive to tinker. We are now both happy not having to kiss someone who tastes like an ashtray. She does like some of my juices, though.

In vaping, there is no right or wrong. It's only what works for you.

And now you know why I use carto tanks and 3400mAh batts, I put a fresh batt in, in the morning and fill the tank and I'm good to go for the day.

 

[rbeckys8]

interesting readings..I don't think chasing a better vape is only for those that never plan to quit vaping or why would they spend so much money?? I DIY but just enough to keep me going..SS just doesn't allow me to play too much!

 

[_sidekick_]

I often find myself saying "...., I have to swap the cotton in this coil AGAIN?" like it's hard or something. Lol. It's funny because when I'm bored, I'll rebuild a coil for no reason, but when I NEED to rebuild one, I don't really want to.

 

[tmassey]

Dealing with the leaking of a genie made it unreasonable to be carried full time, an issue I still haven't solved. But swapping a coil head every couple of days was to me easier than dealing with all the issues that came along with a genny, also I swap flavors regularly which is easier said than done in a genesis. But I will admit that rebuilding all of those heads did take a few hours, and when I do have to re wick/pack it does take awhile, but I almost never have too because I have so many.the fact that were both calling ourselves lazy means we got something going right at least.

 

[otrpu]

My meaning with that question is at what point does one stop messing around with rebuilding and trying out new coil systems and come to the realization that the sole purpose of this whole vaping deal is to quit and stay off analogs, although there are people out there who are into vaping who have never smoked? Messing around with RBA's was starting to become more of impediment to staying off analogs than a help. . .

I used to feel that way. . .then I just decided it was all a pain in the ..... . .and I quit. That's what I started vaping for anyway. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[dr g]

I've done a lot of trial and testing to see whether it is even necessary to do a lot of work, an overall I have come to the conclusion that it is generally not, at least as far as coil builds. As these are wear parts of the devices, spending an inordinate amount of time on them is undesirable, and frankly the gains to be had from even the most complicated coil build are marginal.

So I default to pretty standard round wire or ribbon coil builds, usually single coil.