Having Issues Finding Battery Statistics for a couple batteries how safe are these?

[lebeatnik]

basically i am trying to know for sure the amperage i can pull and what ohm resistance for each is safe on a mechanical

the first battery I believe I know about but clarification would be nice first is

Pink Samsung ICR18650-26C SDI which should have a 2C Discharge current and being 2600 mah gives it a max amp rating of 5.2 making a .8 ohm coil max?

Second Battery Green Sony SF US18650GR
> K G511MNL03A < These are the second line of numbers and letters

For the second battery I have been unable to find its discharge rate i think its the one with 2200 Mah and IDK but the 03A might be discharge making this about 6.5 making a safe coil .6???

I am basically working out safe coil ohm ratings for my batteries i only have these 2 and an aw 18650 with 1700 mah which i also don't know what a safe coil is for that battery. it says its 7.4 on the wrapper of the aw. I dont know if i have gathered the correct information either so yeah help is greatly appreciated!

So if someone can help me find out the max safe coil for each of the following batteries:

(Pink)ICR18650-26C SDI

(Green)SF US18650GR

 

[Switched]

If you insist on vaping sub_Ohm coils, stick to AW batteries

 

[lebeatnik]

the only reason for sub ohm coils for me is because using a genny with a mech i find it needs to be right around 1 ohm but lower can be better sometimes so i just want to find out whats safe for the batteries i have, I only have one AW so this is why I ask i have 3 of the pink Samsung and 5 of the green Sony so having one battery i know will be ok but i wan to know just to be able to use the others too. so if anyone knows at least where to find the stats for these batteries i would appreciate it i just want to be safe and of course use what i have without buying more vape stuff i cant afford

 

[patrao_n]

Op I have never seen a 1700 mah aw Imr 18650. Are you sure it's from a reputable dealer and it's not a fake?

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[Ryedan]

basically i am trying to know for sure the amperage i can pull and what ohm resistance for each is safe on a mechanical

the first battery I believe I know about but clarification would be nice first is

Pink Samsung ICR18650-26C SDI which should have a 2C Discharge current and being 2600 mah gives it a max amp rating of 5.2 making a .8 ohm coil max?

Second Battery Green Sony SF US18650GR
> K G511MNL03A < These are the second line of numbers and letters

For the second battery I have been unable to find its discharge rate i think its the one with 2200 Mah and IDK but the 03A might be discharge making this about 6.5 making a safe coil .6???

I am basically working out safe coil ohm ratings for my batteries i only have these 2 and an aw 18650 with 1700 mah which i also don't know what a safe coil is for that battery. it says its 7.4 on the wrapper of the aw. I dont know if i have gathered the correct information either so yeah help is greatly appreciated!

So if someone can help me find out the max safe coil for each of the following batteries:

(Pink)ICR18650-26C SDI

(Green)SF US18650GR

The ICR18650-26C SDI is ICR lithium ion chemistry and this is not safe for a mechanical mod. These are the ones that burn when they are abused (which can happen easily in a mech mod). You need a IMR li-ion battery or a hybrid li-ion. I believe it does have a 5.2A rating. If it were one of the two safe types, I would not use a coil under about 1 - 1.1 ohms on it so you have some head room for shorts which you will be getting when you set up a Genisis atty.

The US18650GR, G5 are 4.4A and also ICR chemistry, so dangerous to use.

As patrao_n said, there is no 1700 mAh AW cell, so it must be a counterfeit. Please do not use it. It could be the most dangerous of all your batteries.

Here is a chart of safe batteries with their mAh, amp limits and lowest resistances indicated. Suggest you stay in the yellow zone for lowest resistance.

A couple of known good battery vendors are RTD for AW and Panasonic, Orbtronic for Panasonic, Samsung and Sanyo.

Just make sure the battery you pick is on that chart and you'll be safe.

 

[lebeatnik]

I misquoted the AW its 2000 Mah and yeah I came up on those batteries the AW i got from a reputable source. (I have no IDEA why i said 1700) I do agree fake aw is scary i know the ones i have are authentic (i purchased them from a known battery vendor talked about this site with RD in the site name) i trust them and i compare any battery i get with them as i have been told the easiest way to spot a fake AW is the size is different than an authentic.

Ryedan thank you for finding the info on those batteries. I'm going to be buying some more batteries soon (also i haven't been using those batteries want to keep it safe) I will order several more AW and a couple high amp load for safety.

In all I don't really like micro coils in my genni (idk it should be the same maybe better with more surface area but i must have not learned well) I currently build .9 to 1.1 ohm coils on a ekowool sleeved cable or mesh (ekowool is the best non fiddly material for flavor IMO cotton is good but not for a genni IMO to much fiddling in a dipper Cotton or ekowool Great and the cotton can be removed and replaced easily without recoiling all my opinion

ALSO thanks for all the safety warnings I understand and is why i posted but i just hope sub ohmers are safe i saw someone come into the local B&M who had a .2 coil he was a newb and didn't even know his coil was that low,

 

[HazaLand]

AW 2000mah is what I use. Never had any problems with them

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[maxd]

If you insist on vaping sub_Ohm coils, stick to AW batteries

agree,
or even Sony, 18650 size and even lower mah ,
but better for higher amps

 

[lebeatnik]

i picked up a (for being cheap) a 1600 mah efest 30 amp so now I have 2 batteries i know are safe. I later found out the pink ICR is actually what comes with the evic?. (anyone know this? for fact) So since i was only using regulated devices (i had a VAMO that took a poop and took a battery with it, well for some reason it got a hot spring issue and it got hot and smelled funny so i put it outside in a flower pot and nothing happened but i wont be using it again just in case. It was a 18350 AW) and i had a Zmax as it still works i RARELY use it because it after the first week of owning it, every several times i fire the button, normal vaping nothing crazy and the menu would pop op i would be sucking and get no vapor to find out i was in the menu which is supposed to be 3 fast clicks. I have heard that is a problem with the z max. Also I found out the hard way that the ego threading on that device is just a ring squeezed onto the 510 main connection. that ring just fell of one day and i lost it. (i also could not think of a safe way to secure it (Solder on a spot like that i just thought i wouldn't kill myself if it could happen, especial since i believe i only have lead solder right now)

So in all I have my VAMO V2 chip to use in new mod i will be making when I'm bored, I also have the zmax. Used to use the vamo to check my ohms on RBAs but since its broke and the zmax works differently in the fact it will only tell you the ohms of acceptable resistance for the device so most of my builds are reason as "low resistance" (I'm not sure exactly n what it says i think it only says resistance)

Anyway I am Rambling now IN all I like my Coils at .8 sometimes .7 and if i accidentally make a .6 ill still use it (but lower than .7 just to be safe now i use the efest) I do have to say IDK but the efest seams to have more kick I cant enplane it really but when its fresh it just hits harder than the AW does that have to due with the AMP rating?

Also can anyone give me battery recommendations 2000 Mah AW i want to get another one of those, Then I want to get 2 more high amp batteries but IDK what I was thinking the purple efest batteries. (I have that document on batteries saved that was posted earlier) the reason for the purple efest is the high MAH and the low price. But i would prefer the best as i am only planning on having a 5 battery arsenal right now, I got a 4 battery case and one in the Mod so thats all i can carry so that's what i am shooting for until i start buying more batteries because i want to lol or if i get another device i want 3 for each LOL. I like my Nemesis with RSST in 10350 Mode so is there a good 18350 outn there that has at least a 10 amp rating.

LASTLY important what is the amp rating for an AW 18350? That's all i have in 18350 mode. Also what is a safe lower limit for this battery so i know. I know it wont be 10 amps but that's what I'm looking for if possible.

Also as a PPS anyone want to buy/trade (rather trade) for like 10 each of the ICR batteries I have AFAIK (correct me before i send anyone a possible bomb) but they can be used safely in a regulated Mod?

 

[Ryedan]

I like my Coils at .8 sometimes .7 and if i accidentally make a .6 ill still use it (but lower than .7 just to be safe now i use the efest) I do have to say IDK but the efest seams to have more kick I cant enplane it really but when its fresh it just hits harder than the AW does that have to due with the AMP rating?

Also can anyone give me battery recommendations 2000 Mah AW i want to get another one of those, Then I want to get 2 more high amp batteries but IDK what I was thinking the purple efest batteries. (I have that document on batteries saved that was posted earlier) the reason for the purple efest is the high MAH and the low price. But i would prefer the best as i am only planning on having a 5 battery arsenal right now, I got a 4 battery case and one in the Mod so thats all i can carry so that's what i am shooting for until i start buying more batteries because i want to lol or if i get another device i want 3 for each LOL. I like my Nemesis with RSST in 10350 Mode so is there a good 18350 outn there that has at least a 10 amp rating.

I stay away from Efest. I've heard from too many people I trust that they don't last long and it's a big difference. Even considering the price difference, it's not worth it. Panasonic, Sony, AW and Samsung all have great reputations.

LASTLY important what is the amp rating for an AW 18350? That's all i have in 18350 mode. Also what is a safe lower limit for this battery so i know. I know it wont be 10 amps but that's what I'm looking for if possible.

Also as a PPS anyone want to buy/trade (rather trade) for like 10 each of the ICR batteries I have AFAIK (correct me before i send anyone a possible bomb) but they can be used safely in a regulated Mod?

There is no 18650 18350 that is 10A or above. The AW is 6A. I would not go sub ohm with that. Look at the safe battery chart I posted and it says safe to 0.9 ohms.

ICR batteries are not considered safe for any vaping application. They're not too bad with a protection circuit, but if that fails you're vaping a pipe bomb. The trigger timer starts when it's shorted.

Also, buying or trading is not allowed outside the classifieds here. You might want to take that out of your post

 

[Scott_Simpson]

... There is no 18650 that is 10A or above. The AW is 6A. I would not go sub ohm with that. Look at the safe battery chart I posted and it says safe to 0.9 ohms.

Surely a typo? I think you meant to say 18350?

 

[Ryedan]

Surely a typo? I think you meant to say 18350?

Thank you Scott . Corrected it in my post.