Having problem with new Atty

[alldayvape]

On a sidenote: I really want to try the RY4 !!!! Been checking the site over and over and over and over.. well you get the story

 

[Iken]

Ok, so I've been waiting to order some atty's for a while, from ikenvape, because of all the good things ive heard and finally got the chance to do so last week. I received them and immediately put one of the LR's on my "Don" at 3.7v. I realize that some atty's require a break in period, but I'm on the 3rd day and it tastes horrible. With a few drops in it tastes like it's dry, with another drop or two it barely produces any vapor and gives me a harsh throat burn. Anyone know what's going on? I'm leaning towards it just being defective and I'm just unlucky. Has anyone had this experience or have I done something wrong?

The HV Atty I ordered also isn't performing very well. It doesn't feel burnt like the LR, but underperforms my regular LR Atty I've been using for over a month now. Was there a bad batch?

I don't see where anyone here is bashing Isaac or even the product... This is a forum to discuss anything ecig related. In particular this is the Ikenvape subforum, where we members are allowed and supposed to discuss their products.

I can only agree with the OP. I ordered two LR 306's and both do not perform. They are rated 2ohm but came in at 2.2ohm's. Both of them. I dewick (remove the cotton like thread from under the bridge) all my 306's and prime them accordingly, in addition to giving them time to break in. I was expecting a lot more.

After having problems with the 1st LR 306, I went to this forum, quietly went to this section of the forum and really didn't find an issue similar to mine. I did think maybe I didn't prime it enough, so I brought out the second one, and did exactly as suggested by many senior members of this forum in regards to priming the LR 306. The second one performed exactly as the first one.

It is within my right to discuss my experience with this product. If no one ever posts their negative experiences what do we need this forum for? I believe as customer I have the right to say I liked product x or didn't like product y. Whether or not you agree I can care less.

That being said, I am not a fan of the LR306's.. You might be and that's great. They didn't work for me and that's that. I am not here to bash just to contribute to OP's post. You don't like the post you have the option not to answer, but to bash OP for giving his honest opinion is as immature as what you are suggesting OP did.

If everyone only emailed a vendor about a problem they have than the forum would be full of only positive opinions and chatter. Well, this is the USA and we express our opinions and experiences. This is what makes us so great; our different experiences and opinions.

Lastly, I will say that IKV's HV attys are the best there are and I just received more today. Super fast shipping with the best HV atty on the market.

Ikenvape is a great company and we are lucky to have them.

Edit: I will be at VapeStock and am very much looking forward to bring the attys in questions to the meet, in addition to trying out a different LR 306 w/ the man himself.

Sounds good Isaac,
I would love to see it to find out what is happening here. Don't forget viscosity levels of certain liquids at certain ranges of voltages. I definitely believe in freedom of speech and take all feedback as constructive as possible. It's what drives us to work harder towards greatness.

 

[Iken]

On a sidenote: I really want to try the RY4 !!!! Been checking the site over and over and over and over.. well you get the story

Haha We're transferring over to the new site and dropping the 192.corecommerce thing in about 6 days. I have been using these liquids for the longest time and in regards to liquids causing unit problems, there are absolutely None what so ever. Even with specific ratios I'm looking at this liquid line as the synthetic of motor oils. For a superbly clean engine, the appropriate oil must be used. I do plan on showing you a live example at the meet. We'll add some to your atty, let it vape through a few cycles to flush it out and you'll see what I mean

 

[alldayvape]

Sounds good Isaac,
I would love to see it to find out what is happening here. Don't forget viscosity levels of certain liquids at certain ranges of voltages. I definitely believe in freedom of speech and take all feedback as constructive as possible. It's what drives us to work harder towards greatness.

And that is why I will continue to purchase products from you. You're approach to your business is top notch. Your products are the best proven by thousands of vapers.

I have been using these liquids for the longest time and in regards to liquids causing unit problems, there are absolutely None what so ever. Even with specific ratios I'm looking at this liquid line as the synthetic of motor oils. For a superbly clean engine, the appropriate oil must be used. I do plan on showing you a live example at the meet. We'll add some to your atty, let it vape through a few cycles to flush it out and you'll see what I mean

I can't wait.. You, Sir Isaac, are a great man!

 

[Blueberry]

Hi Isaac,

Are you going to do a stock update when you transfer to your new site?

 

[Switched]

24 post and we are still no further than the beginning.

What device are you using?
What voltage are you running at?
What liquid are you using?
What concentration PG/VG?
How did you prime them?

This is for both Qlock and BW707... We can't fix if we don't know how it broke.

 

[thedudeabides]

Hey all, ordered a batch of these when Isaac updated stock. I just ran through and metered them all out as a test. The one that I am currently using metered out to 1.9 OHMs, which is about how it felt in terms of taste and TH. I never metered the others out since that's not something I normally do unless I have an issue. Below are the results of the other 5:

2.3
2.2
2.2
2.0
1.9

Looks like there may have been some variance on this batch. Isaac, if you need any sent back for testing/autopsy just let me know. All of HV atties metered out perfectly to 3.5 on the dime.

 

[5cardstud]

I really did not mean to insult you.

BWG you didn't insult me and I'm happy that this thread has finally calmed down to a healthy discussion.
As Switched has ask a couple of times if the ones having problems would post the information he requested he can better help you. That's the guy you want helping you besides Iken. Those two have forgotten more about atomizers than I'll ever know. Vape on vapers.

Isaac if you ever got some 555 that isn't VG I'd be buying it. VG gives me terrific headaches and I'm not a RY4 kinda guy. I had some and thought it was........let's just say not for me.

 

[Qlock]

24 post and we are still no further than the beginning.

What device are you using?
What voltage are you running at?
What liquid are you using?
What concentration PG/VG?
How did you prime them?

This is for both Qlock and BW707... We can't fix if we don't know how it broke.

I'm using a megaladon mod from electronicstix.com with a 510 fitting.

I've been running 3.7v with a 18650 - 1500mAh

My juice is from FSUSA (50/50) - specifically, I've tried Blueberry/Coconut(18mg), RY4 & RY5(18mg), Caramel/Cream(18mg).

I've also tried all of the above with one of Isaac's HV 510 Atty's with 2 CR123a's. I get a little flavor, but barely any vapor and 0 TH.

For both of these atty's, I dropped about 4-5 drops into them, waited a few min and fired them for about 2 sec without inhaling, did this twice, then dripped about 2 more drops in and waited for about 3-4 min for it to soak in and then hit like normal. so not exactly as instructed, but close.

I've done the above (minus HV stuff) with my other (non IkenVape) atty and it has performed amazingly! The difference in performance is monumental.

 

[Switched]

I gather these are 510s we are talking about. If so 4-5 drops should do the trick. I am not particular about LR attys in general, not the 510 anyway. I could never get one to perform for me adequately (never tried the IKV line).

It sounds like you may have a semi flooded situation going on here. e.g 4-5 drops then 2 more. priming a 510 is 5 drops then vape, replenishing as required with 2 drops.

For 306s 7 drops, 2 fires, add 2 drops and replenish as required.

HV require more liquid than normal or LR attys as they are juice hogs. Your liquid sounds fine.

If you inadvertently burnt your wick, then that may stay for ever. OTOH if you didn't blow it out and drop 4 drops in it and vape away. Blow out from the mouth end.

 

[Iken]

Hey all, ordered a batch of these when Isaac updated stock. I just ran through and metered them all out as a test. The one that I am currently using metered out to 1.9 OHMs, which is about how it felt in terms of taste and TH. I never metered the others out since that's not something I normally do unless I have an issue. Below are the results of the other 5:

2.3
2.2
2.2
2.0
1.9

Looks like there may have been some variance on this batch. Isaac, if you need any sent back for testing/autopsy just let me know. All of HV atties metered out perfectly to 3.5 on the dime.

Hey Dude,
That's not really too bad.The manufactures themselves can only guarantee +/- .2 difference as I can only too. Especially when working with newer elements.

I'm using a megaladon mod from electronicstix.com with a 510 fitting.

I've been running 3.7v with a 18650 - 1500mAh

My juice is from FSUSA (50/50) - specifically, I've tried Blueberry/Coconut(18mg), RY4 & RY5(18mg), Caramel/Cream(18mg).

I've also tried all of the above with one of Isaac's HV 510 Atty's with 2 CR123a's. I get a little flavor, but barely any vapor and 0 TH.

For both of these atty's, I dropped about 4-5 drops into them, waited a few min and fired them for about 2 sec without inhaling, did this twice, then dripped about 2 more drops in and waited for about 3-4 min for it to soak in and then hit like normal. so not exactly as instructed, but close.

I've done the above (minus HV stuff) with my other (non IkenVape) atty and it has performed amazingly! The difference in performance is monumental.

Please send me your email that you used for ordering. I would like to take a look at this matter more closely. You adding the right amount of liquid on 6V and not receiving hardly anything doesn't compute what so ever. I understood that you said it was a 306, but now a 510. To have completely units malfunction needs to be brought to attention. I am willing to exchange the unmodified 510 for a brand new one because I want to see this thing inside and out personally.

 

[Iken]

Hi Isaac,

Are you going to do a stock update when you transfer to your new site?

Haha no, I'm not going to make you guys wait that long.

And that is why I will continue to purchase products from you. You're approach to your business is top notch. Your products are the best proven by thousands of vapers.



I can't wait.. You, Sir Isaac, are a great man!

From one Isaac to another, you are awesome! Can't wait to meet you!

Isaac if you ever got some 555 that isn't VG I'd be buying it. VG gives me terrific headaches and I'm not a RY4 kinda guy. I had some and thought it was........let's just say not for me.

Ah 5Card! I may have something good under my sleeve., but I haven't concentrated on a 555 yet. Do you remember the old school Ry4? Maybe some sweet Tobacco? It's really the only kind I can happily vape. That VG, ugh, I know what you mean, head aches, heavy chest.

 

[BWG707]

Iken, I was using the IKV Gold 510 Cartomizer Silver (soft tipped) with a GLV2 5volt.

 

[Iken]

Iken, I was using the IKV Gold 510 Cartomizer Silver (soft tipped) with a GLV2 5volt.

Thank you for getting back to me BWG. I don't prefer to troubleshoot on open forums because publicity can alter perceptions. We'll try it anyway.
For troubleshooting purposes. How many drops of liquid did you add and what type? Was this burning taste immediate?

 

[BWG707]

Thank you for getting back to me BWG. I don't prefer to troubleshoot on open forums because publicity can alter perceptions. We'll try it anyway.
For troubleshooting purposes. How many drops of liquid did you add and what type? Was this burning taste immediate?

Thanks for taking a interest and for your time. I filled it with a syringe from the bottom up (as I do all my cartos with great results). I was using Waffles with butter and syrup, 50/50 from Sweet-vapes. The burnt taste I believe was immediate. After filling with the syringe I did let it sit for a while to fully soak in. I didn't even hit it that hard. It just didn't seem to be wicking fast enough to keep up with the vaporizing. I went back to it several times and tried adding juice and hitting it shorter and easier. I can get flavor and some vapor but the bad taste is still there. I even tried another carto and the same thing is happening. The description in your website states that these will not burn, and that is what kinda influenced me to purchase these. Anyway if you have any other suggestions I'm all ears.

 

[Switched]

Thanks for taking a interest and for your time. I filled it with a syringe from the bottom up (as I do all my cartos with great results). I was using Waffles with butter and syrup, 50/50 from Sweet-vapes. The burnt taste I believe was immediate. After filling with the syringe I did let it sit for a while to fully soak in. I didn't even hit it that hard. It just didn't seem to be wicking fast enough to keep up with the vaporizing. I went back to it several times and tried adding juice and hitting it shorter and easier. I can get flavor and some vapor but the bad taste is still there. I even tried another carto and the same thing is happening. The description in your website states that these will not burn, and that is what kinda influenced me to purchase these. Anyway if you have any other suggestions I'm all ears.

In my experience and opinion, there isn't a carto that will vape properly at HV, not for me anyway. I have discussed this at length with Isaac in the past. I see GG taking 7-8 sec toots at 6V and cannot for the life of me figure out how he is doing it.

What I have found out during all the testing I have done is that a carto just like an atty needs to be broken in properly. A carto should be vaped at 3.7V for a filling before progressively moved up in voltage. This is what paid the largest dividends for me. The latter should always be carried out as these cartos are juice hogs, and will go through juice faster than the average carto. Liquid has been known to be problematic. VG increases liquid viscosity and thus reduces wicking. I know I vape 100% VG and had to tailor my liquids to my vaping style. That being said, not all of my flavours work in everything. So I use liquids that are known to be compatible with my cartos. I also vape at 3.7V.

Recently I scorched a 2Ohm 901 within the first tank. The culprit? The liquid that I was using. It wasn't wicking fast enough. The other that I had lasted for 2 weeks before its demise because it inadvertently fired in my pocket. BTW the majority of liquids I vape are DIY.

Hopefully this has offered some insight into what may be occurring. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/142394-equipment-longevity-vg-liquids.html

On a different note... I acquired an eGo T. The atty started to stiffen up after only 9 days. I gave it a quick alcohol flush, changed liquids and it is now going on 6 weeks without any further intervention on my part. The culprit? You guessed it the liquid.

 

[Ruppy]

What I have found out during all the testing I have done is that a carto just like an atty needs to be broken in properly. A carto should be vaped at 3.7V for a filling before progressively moved up in voltage. This is what paid the largest dividends for me.

I find this part of your statement interesting switched. I believe I will have to take a look at that going forward. I have a few juices that just have issues. Perhaps a proper breaking in will help with that.

 

[Switched]

I find this part of your statement interesting switched. I believe I will have to take a look at that going forward. I have a few juices that just have issues. Perhaps a proper breaking in will help with that.

This had to be carried out in our testing to give Isaac a measure, at where do/did the item fail. During testing we pushed the product to its limits, to the breaking point so to speak. I have also found that with my style of vaping 4-2 to 4.5 is the absolute max I can vape at before scorching the carto, regardless of resistance.

 

[Ruppy]

This had to be carried out in our testing to give Isaac a measure, at where do/did the item fail. During testing we pushed the product to its limits, to the breaking point so to speak. I have also found that with my style of vaping 4-2 to 4.5 is the absolute max I can vape at before scorching the carto, regardless of resistance.

Honestly thats about where I find I have to vape. above 4.6 I seem to always burn something. 4.2-4.5 I have ALOT less problems. Power source also plays a role IMO. My buzz , infinity, my boosted 4050 chip, the evercool chip all have different "perfect voltages" with the EXACT same carto.

 

[BWG707]

In my experience and opinion, there isn't a carto that will vape properly at HV, not for me anyway. I have discussed this at length with Isaac in the past. I see GG taking 7-8 sec toots at 6V and cannot for the life of me figure out how he is doing it.

What I have found out during all the testing I have done is that a carto just like an atty needs to be broken in properly. A carto should be vaped at 3.7V for a filling before progressively moved up in voltage. This is what paid the largest dividends for me. The latter should always be carried out as these cartos are juice hogs, and will go through juice faster than the average carto. Liquid has been known to be problematic. VG increases liquid viscosity and thus reduces wicking. I know I vape 100% VG and had to tailor my liquids to my vaping style. That being said, not all of my flavours work in everything. So I use liquids that are known to be compatible with my cartos. I also vape at 3.7V.

Recently I scorched a 2Ohm 901 within the first tank. The culprit? The liquid that I was using. It wasn't wicking fast enough. The other that I had lasted for 2 weeks before its demise because it inadvertently fired in my pocket. BTW the majority of liquids I vape are DIY.

Hopefully this has offered some insight into what may be occurring. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/142394-equipment-longevity-vg-liquids.html

On a different note... I acquired an eGo T. The atty started to stiffen up after only 9 days. I gave it a quick alcohol flush, changed liquids and it is now going on 6 weeks without any further intervention on my part. The culprit? You guessed it the liquid.

I understand what your saying, it can be problematic with HV. I have had very good luck with Boge (soft tipped) 510's. As you are saying you must break them in carefully. And you are not kidding about them sucking up the juice, WOW! I do notice that with a new charge you must be abit careful and after a little drain they really start performing good and the taste noticably improves. Right now I'm having very good luck with the Ce2 Clearomizers. They are the same way, you must be very careful breaking them in. The main thing that I have noticed about all cartomizers (with my GLV2 5v.) is you must keep them wet, wet, wet. That is why I've been looking at different tanks, I don't need to keep adding juice constantly. I believe that vaping should be very easy, you should not have to work at it, it should be trouble free with very little time consuming maintenence. The less you have to work at it the more enjoyable it will be. I know some people like to tinker with their equipment, not me, it should be a no-brainer; push a button- draw- blow out clouds of vapor. I do appreciate all suggestions and comments, anything that might make it easier.