HCigar Nemesis or Tobecco Kalafan Nemesis?

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Exile

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Did anyone try or see reviews for $33.99 VapeRoyalty Tobecco Kalafan Nemesis ???

I just noticed this under the description of the Tobecco Kalafan Nemesis...

"This Kalafan Nemesis Mod is NOT made by HCigar, it is made by another well known Chinese company by the name of Tobecco. The quality of this Nemesis clone is really nice however, it is not as nice as the HCigar versions and the price reflects this. The threads are still very smooth, it looks beautiful and it hits like the real deal."
 
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Chris850

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Hcigar!!! I have the tobecco and it sucks1 I was completely underwhelmed when it cam in, metal feels thin and cheap, no weight what so ever to it, threads are loose and squeeky, the switch misfires and sticks all the time, you have to be dead center of the switch for it to fire and if you dont pop your finger off of it it will stick in. Other people may have not had the same experience I did with this maker but mine was very poor. I instantly bought a hcigar and have had none of the above mentioned problems.
 

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Looking through alibaba I couldn't figure which one is the real fake Tobeco. There are many Tobeco chemies. Does anyone know?

Saw ebay polished tobeco chemy. Looks very good based on several pics. The cap has 5 510 threads and my FT has 4 510 threads. They have 14 day money back so you won't get caught holding the bag. Very tempting.

The Origin 21 mm is tempting me also.
 

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My FT brass nemesis arrived. Solid 8 of 10. Very nice. 510 threads work with trident clone; unlike some hcigar nemesisesisesess... Switch not overly scratchy out of the box; unlike my FT SS Nemesis. Switch has same roughly 5 degree wobble slop; ignorable. Sits dead vertical on desk. I greased, installed DX magnets and installed spacer in switch and it is smooth and can be edge fired. Switch actuation 7 of 10 (good) first day and it should get even better once broke in; pretty impressive considering the low voltage drop high surface area post/body contact design. The finish on top cap, tubes and lock ring are 10 of 10; flat and polished perfect. Switch cap has light machining marks which could be polished out if desired. Counterfeit etchings not too deep and could be polished out easily. Body threads are outstanding; good enough to use switch w/o key pin.

I'm stunned by the quality. I expected body to be wavy like in picture but it is flat as a mirror.
 

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