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[sandygib]

hi,
have just browsed an article on research of ecigs, (found it when trying to find out where ecigs have been banned), it seems a few U.S universities have done a little research (among others) and one suprising comment i found was the impression they give that vapers are substituting one addiction for another, i am sorry but i see it as only one addiction and if i didn't vape i would smoke?

 

[babodtf]

Hi Sandygib, I see things the same way you do.

When I made the decision to vape, I did so because I felt that it would still provide me the substance (nicotine) I was already addicted to without all the other ingredients (carcinogens, etc.) found in traditional cigarettes.

 

[Sinkhole]

I agree. a nicotine addiction is a nicotine addiction either way you look at it. It's just a different delivery system. One that I personally feel is much better for you.

 

[MorpheusPA]

I'd kind of roundly say that's true in a general sort of way, maybe, if I weren't prickly that day.

Yes, I substituted the nicotine in the cigs for the vaporizer. This meant that I didn't have ten days of the dizzy-sick-panicked feeling. I still had about a month of constantly reducing desire for a cigarette. WTA liquids helped, so did a slower transition than some take, but it was still not very much fun. To avoid it I would have had to transition slower which, in retrospect, I probably should have done.

So yes, I've maintained my addiction to nicotine. To which my question would be, "So what?" I don't have any serious heart or circulatory or other condition that would preclude stimulants like caffeine or nicotine. Over time I'm reducing the nic levels in my liquid so my reliance on that is fading as well.

I did break my addiction to all the other stuff in smoke, to the point that I can actually walk away from my PV for a while. Not a vastly long while, but a while. I couldn't do that with cigarettes.

Even if, perchance, liquids were produced that were exactly the profile of cigarette smoke in terms of their alkaloids (even WTA I don't think is exact, but could be wrong), if they don't contain any carcinogens of note in amounts that are significant, it's going to be better than smoking.

Harm reduction is what we're going after here. And in this case, from what I and others can find, the harm reduction seems to be very significant indeed. When even my and my mother's doctors respectively gave their blessings, it's not something I'm going to let keep me up nights. Coughing? That used to keep me up at night.

 

[jcal]

Hi Sandygib. I totally agree with you .If I don't vape I smoke , and vaping is much better for me .I feel better and smell better

 

[akatina]

I see it as 3 addictions that I'm trimming to 2, then 1. Then hopefully 0

How's that? Well, with smoking I'm addicted to the act of smoking, the nicotine, and the myriad amount of extra junk I get in the smoke. Two are chemical addictions, one behavioral. I'm giving up the addiction to the extra junk right now and keeping the nicotine addiction and the physical act of smoking, only now it's vaping. Once I lower my nic levels to 0 then I'll just be left with the addiction to the physical hand-to-mouth action. Then it's up to me to break that 1 last addiction if I want to.

 

[Lorddeff07]

That has to be the most stupid thing I have ever read. Whoever did that research should be fired or something.

Smokers take cigs primarily cause of the nicotine, everyone knows this. But its somehow a bad thing (and a diff addiction) to get that (same) nic while removing 99% of everything wrong with cigs?

Wow......

 

[MorpheusPA]

That has to be the most stupid thing I have ever read. Whoever did that research should be fired or something.

Smokers take cigs primarily cause of the nicotine, everyone knows this. But its somehow a bad thing (and a diff addiction) to get that (same) nic while removing 99% of everything wrong with cigs?

Wow......

See, this is what I sound like on a day when I'm prickly.

But yes. Ten to one they're shaking their sanctimonious little heads about nicotine addiction while swilling down their fifth cup of coffee for the day, and it's only 11 AM.

But that's okay because it's them. And coffee...er, ah...OK, it contains carcinogens. We should ban coffee; I don't drink it so I wouldn't care.

 

[akatina]

But that's okay because it's them. And coffee...er, ah...OK, it contains carcinogens. We should ban coffee; I don't drink it so I wouldn't care.

You can take my coffee from my cold dead hands. Try any other way, and you'll wind up with cold dead hands of your own!

 

[Sinkhole]

You can take my coffee from my cold dead hands. Try any other way, and you'll wind up with cold dead hands of your own!

Agreed. Don't screw with my Coffee, Guns, Money, Truck, Dog, Cat or Family and we don't have a problem.