There is no way to know that. It has not been proven to be not healthy. It is healthier than analogs.
Healthy or not?
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There is no way to know that. It has not been proven to be not healthy. It is healthier than analogs.
I did not say it was healthy just that s far there is no proof that is not healthy.
I personally believe it is quite healthy. Until the FDA started swirling innuendos (and NOTHING they have said has any solid basis in real facts, only suggested--usually by them--possibilities) it was considered FAR safer, not just safer, but leaps and bounds safer than analog cigarettes. I still believe that. Much of what is going on now is pure and simple scare tactics, whether it is due to the FDA simply wanting control, or it is due to lobbyists padding the FDA pockets to make the money stream flow to them (the later is in my opinion, closest to the truth).
Is vaping 'safer' than 'PURE' (no such thing!) air???? No, of course not. Is it safe? In my opinion-- yes.
by the way---FDA allegations aside, there are MILLIONS of things that we do that are 'technically' unsafe... if we only did safe things we'd never leave the house, if we only ate safe things we'd all be eating lettuce (organic only).... SAFE is a very relative thing.
Is vaping 'safer' than 'PURE' (no such thing!) air???? No, of course not. Is it safe? In my opinion-- yes.
by the way---FDA allegations aside, there are MILLIONS of things that we do that are 'technically' unsafe... if we only did safe things we'd never leave the house, if we only ate safe things we'd all be eating lettuce (organic only).... SAFE is a very relative thing.
I love it when people on forums curtly say "it's been answered a thousand times, read". Or "use the search".
Having been involved with forums on and off since 2001, the formula is kind of the same. Searches don't work efficiently, never have. I rarely use them because it only searches out key words. This usually does not get you what you're after. As far as reading, very few of us will come up with a truly unique question. We can spend MONTHS reading through all kind of swill and useless fluff in thread after thread, and still not learn a thing.
Fourms, AFAIC, are about interaction. If you don't want to interact, then don't. Shuffling someone off to the search bar or having them read THOUSANDS of threads in HUNDREDS of sub forums is just rude.
My .02. Anyhow, welcome - although I see you have your cap met. It's not healthy. It's just less UNhealthy.
Having been involved with forums on and off since 2001, the formula is kind of the same. Searches don't work efficiently, never have. I rarely use them because it only searches out key words. This usually does not get you what you're after. As far as reading, very few of us will come up with a truly unique question. We can spend MONTHS reading through all kind of swill and useless fluff in thread after thread, and still not learn a thing.
Fourms, AFAIC, are about interaction. If you don't want to interact, then don't. Shuffling someone off to the search bar or having them read THOUSANDS of threads in HUNDREDS of sub forums is just rude.
My .02. Anyhow, welcome - although I see you have your cap met. It's not healthy. It's just less UNhealthy.
In the long run I'm sure we'll find out about some nasty side effects. This is fairly new stuff and we are all test subjects... I hate when people say it's only 3-4 chemicals vs. the thousands of chemicals in cigarette smoke. It's only 3 chemicals if you vape PG/VG/NIC without flavor. The reality is a lot of different chemicals (some very bad for inhalation) are used to create those artificial flavors used in ejuice.
One more thing I'd like to point out is that I've watched friends switch from smoking to vaping and they often will begin to chain vape even though they never chain smoked. It's not as smelly, you don't have to light another one and it's just much more convenient. That's not healthy, these people become even more addicted to nicotine than when they were smoking 'analogs' or what the common folk refer to as cigarettes.
This is an excellent point. When we quit smoking, many of us will go to 20 or 24 nic to keep the cravings at bay. Like you said, when we end up chain vaping, we end up taking in a lot more nicotine in one day than we EVER would smoking.
To your other point, we don't know much about any of it. Like diacetyl. Even OSHA admits they actually know bupkiss. They don't have a 'safe level', because they have not conclusively determined how harmful it actually is. I read the whole boring report on it. We don't even know if sugar alcohols (VG/PG) are even "safe" to inhale.
Many of us breathe better, and quit coughing, so we assume it's harmless. But there haven't, as of yet, been conclusive studies on most of it. Particularly long-term exposure. Like you said, this thing is still in its' infancy.
Great points.
Vaping.
Health effects....
Well with Nicotine.... You get health benefits.... For example... Althiemers risk reduction
Health benefits to other people: Since I vape, I am happy, If I am unhappy, I may want to rip their heads off, Metaphorically speaking.
Health effects....
Well with Nicotine.... You get health benefits.... For example... Althiemers risk reduction
Health benefits to other people: Since I vape, I am happy, If I am unhappy, I may want to rip their heads off, Metaphorically speaking.
Eh, maybe.
Remember that it's been shown that your lungs only absorb a portion (anywhere from 20% to 50%) of the nicotine in the liquid.
Are we more addicted to nicotine, or are our brains realizing that we're short changing it on it's nicotine cravings on every puff? If the latter, it makes sense for us to vape more than we would have smoked, even if we're getting the same nicotine.
For the OP: nothing is "healthy." In fact, the term is not even really defined. If "health" was an actual measurement, we could say, for example, that a type 2 diabetic could be more or less healthy than a person with a blood clotting disorder. Considering that comparison is nonsense; it's easy to realize that health is a personal and circumstantial thing.
Is our heart beating "healthy" considering that each beat is one beat closer to our death? What about cell reproduction when you consider that cells are designed to only divide x amount of times before killing off its host?
No, "healthy" doesn't exist. The question is, instead: is the usage of vaporizers going to cause either death or lack of quality of life _within_ the amount of time it would take for you to have died from other causes? We won't really know for sure for about another 60/70 years. Within that time I am expecting valid health concerns to be presented about vaping. Will these health concerns be as bad as those proven to be caused by analogs? Nobody really knows, but virtually everyone, including doctors who study this stuff, say that the harm reduction is absolutely real.
The nails would have eventually killed you. Quitting the smokes single handily improved your new found health.
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