Heathers Heavenly not so heavenly
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I got her blueberry muffin and it was the best thing to ever go in a tank of mine. I have an rba reserved just for it. You may have vapers tongue. I quit analogs 9 weeks ago and I have had it twice. I am going through a bit of it right now in fact. Her flavors are complex. When my buds are firing on all cylinders I can taste each ingredient independently and together. It's possible that they were bad but I have vapes 60 ml of juice for her and I have never had a complaint.
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It's not really like liking or not liking okra, unless you've ordered juice in a flavor that you'd dislike no matter who concocted it, which would be foolish. It's more like preferring your grandmother's apple pie to Little Debbie's, Godiva to Hershey's chocolate or your favorite coffee barista to Starbucks, or Starbucks to QuikMart's.
Ecig juices mimic food, drink and/or tobacco. There's a reference. Preferences are subjective, sure, but if a vendor says "tastes just like old fashioned kool-aid", or "rich anise flavor", I'm sure to dislike it, as I don't like those tastes. And if someone says "more like a jolly rancher than fruit" I might disagree, but that reference (as opposed to preference) is an objective one.
I think it's helpful to weigh in gently when honestly disappointed by a highly hyped juice, simply because it makes room to declare that even though a lot of people love Starbucks, it's not some absolute measure of taste to do so. And I find that the most useful reviews try to honestly compare a flavor with referent tastes inside its range - is it a cocoa-puff chocolate or a dark, dusty cocoa, a milk chocolate or a dark one?
A jolly rancher watermelon actually does NOT taste like the fresh fruit, a weak, watery tea doesn't taste like a strong one, and you may prefer mild tea and jolly ranchers but good reviews help steer consumers in their own right general direction.
What's NOT helpful are remarks implying that a disappointed taster who clearly describes the reason for the rejection must have something wrong with them:
"I found that flavor to be somewhat pale and flowery and even chemical, nothing like a real strawberry flummery, actually."
"You're dead wrong. It's yummy. I have vaped 30 gallons of it with delirious pleasure. There is something wrong with your tongue/equipment/gustatory maturity/sanity."
Ecig juices mimic food, drink and/or tobacco. There's a reference. Preferences are subjective, sure, but if a vendor says "tastes just like old fashioned kool-aid", or "rich anise flavor", I'm sure to dislike it, as I don't like those tastes. And if someone says "more like a jolly rancher than fruit" I might disagree, but that reference (as opposed to preference) is an objective one.
I think it's helpful to weigh in gently when honestly disappointed by a highly hyped juice, simply because it makes room to declare that even though a lot of people love Starbucks, it's not some absolute measure of taste to do so. And I find that the most useful reviews try to honestly compare a flavor with referent tastes inside its range - is it a cocoa-puff chocolate or a dark, dusty cocoa, a milk chocolate or a dark one?
A jolly rancher watermelon actually does NOT taste like the fresh fruit, a weak, watery tea doesn't taste like a strong one, and you may prefer mild tea and jolly ranchers but good reviews help steer consumers in their own right general direction.
What's NOT helpful are remarks implying that a disappointed taster who clearly describes the reason for the rejection must have something wrong with them:
"I found that flavor to be somewhat pale and flowery and even chemical, nothing like a real strawberry flummery, actually."
"You're dead wrong. It's yummy. I have vaped 30 gallons of it with delirious pleasure. There is something wrong with your tongue/equipment/gustatory maturity/sanity."
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(There may be something to be said for evolution of taste, though. When I first started vaping 3+ years ago I was totally thrilled by the mass-produced Chinese juice [in sealed cartos, of course] that bridged me from cigs. I remember going around crying, "Pear! Pear! OMG it tastes just like a real, real PEAR! Yum yum yum yum!" [Blush. But lord, that was fun!] Recently a friend had a bottle of that juice lying around and I fired some up for old times sake. Huh. Gee. Tastes just like artificial, pale, slightly perfumed pear flavoring to me now. If there were a pear chewing gum, that would be it. It's a long and winding road, and still a lot of fun!)
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This exactly. I have refrained from posting mediocre or negative reviews of some of the vendors that have more rabid followings on this board because I know it will start this sort of reaction. Overall, I feel like this does a disservice to people who are trying to read reviews to determine what they might be interested in trying.
I would also like if people doing reviews would have a short line at the end of their review that said something about what other brands they like. The theory here being that if someone really likes something that I also like their review might be more applicable to me.
You are describing actual reviews. The OP didn't even tell us what 4 of the 6 juices were, merely that they were all unvapable. And the part about "two vapes and the flavor is gone". Do you suppose it's possible to create a juice where the flavor actually just disappears after two vapes?
There's a difference between a review and a hatchet job.
There's a difference between a review and a hatchet job.
Taste is so subjective....
I have 9 flavors of AIV juice here, and I only really like one of them, but not enough to reorder. Yet they are one of the most loved juice makers here on ECF..... But I'm not going around thrashing AIV because of it. It's me, not them.
YMMV
I have 9 flavors of AIV juice here, and I only really like one of them, but not enough to reorder. Yet they are one of the most loved juice makers here on ECF..... But I'm not going around thrashing AIV because of it. It's me, not them.
YMMV
Yeah I have to agree cause I'm new and got some HHV but I also found that they didn't have much flavour and tasted chemically. I got others from My Freedom Smokes that were excellent right from the get go....just sayin'
I've let the HHV ones sit for a while now so I'll try again.
Does steep mean let them age in the bottle of in an atomizer?
It's not really like liking or not liking okra, unless you've ordered juice in a flavor that you'd dislike no matter who concocted it, which would be foolish. It's more like preferring your grandmother's apple pie to Little Debbie's, Godiva to Hershey's chocolate or your favorite coffee barista to Starbucks, or Starbucks to QuikMart's.
Ecig juices mimic food, drink and/or tobacco. There's a reference. Preferences are subjective, sure, but if a vendor says "tastes just like old fashioned kool-aid", or "rich anise flavor", I'm sure to dislike it, as I don't like those tastes. And if someone says "more like a jolly rancher than fruit" I might disagree, but that reference (as opposed to preference) is an objective one.
I think it's helpful to weigh in gently when honestly disappointed by a highly hyped juice, simply because it makes room to declare that even though a lot of people love Starbucks, it's not some absolute measure of taste to do so. And I find that the most useful reviews try to honestly compare a flavor with referent tastes inside its range - is it a cocoa-puff chocolate or a dark, dusty cocoa, a milk chocolate or a dark one?
A jolly rancher watermelon actually does NOT taste like the fresh fruit, a weak, watery tea doesn't taste like a strong one, and you may prefer mild tea and jolly ranchers but good reviews help steer consumers in their own right general direction.
What's NOT helpful are remarks implying that a disappointed taster who clearly describes the reason for the rejection must have something wrong with them:
"I found that flavor to be somewhat pale and flowery and even chemical, nothing like a real strawberry flummery, actually."
"You're dead wrong. It's yummy. I have vaped 30 gallons of it with delirious pleasure. There is something wrong with your tongue/equipment/gustatory maturity/sanity."
Harsh dude...not cool.
Why so angry? The guy just joined the forum! FYI I am new too and felt the same way about HHV. Chemical aftertaste and no flavour. Sorry if that's not enough of a description for you but that's all I got.
To steep you let the juice sit in a dark place. Some say let oxygen in the container some don't. You definitely want to shake the juice every so often.
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