hello all noob to the forum and needing some diy help

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deepdarkwaters

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im about ready to pull my hair out trying to make coffee e liquid the last few weeks vaporkings has been sold out so i thought why not make it myself i have hunted around and got loranns coffee and kona coffee to try out but mixing with 10% down to 3% all of my mixes have tuned out bad i started out with 24 mg flavorless and just added flavor than one useing everclear than one with distiled water than a pg/vg mix every mix i have made the color has almost black .if i mix at 10%i can taste the coffee but its bitter do i need to add a sweetner or another flavor i seen some one said to add marshmallow flavor all im trying to do is somewhat duplicate vk coffee
 

Warren D. Lockaby

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all im trying to do is somewhat duplicate vk coffee

I've never tried VK's coffee juice so don't know what to suggest. Does it taste like regular black coffee, or with cream & sugar, or dark roast, or....? IOW, how does it compare to actual, sippin' coffee-flavor you'd mix in a cup? (I'm into DIY juice & have played with a few coffee flavorings; I'm also a coffee junkie, so maybe I can help if I know what we're shootin' at here. :) )

Welcome to ECF, & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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Even if you can't post there yet I believe you can check out the DIY forum(s) here on ECF. I *think* you'll also be able to use the Google search function in the upper right corner of every page on ECF. It locates threads on specific subjects here, so you might find a recipe you need that way. Also for flavoring & other DIY supplies you might want to check out these sites: DIY Flavors - One Stop DIY Shop Store Capella Flavor Drops - Over 50+ Water Soluble Concentrated Flavorings Then for nic base: Liquid Nicotine (Quality USA product from North Carolina, & good prices too!).

Take your time, read up on the subject, be careful & stay safe, and Happy Mixing & Vaping! :toast: :vapor:
 

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its some what of a dark roast with sugar my boss made me the guineapig on trying to make it . but i cant beleave as make stores that are in tulsa finding candy flavors is a pain unless i want cherry or grape my wife placed the first order for the coffee but she got the baking emulsion that mix didnt turn out to good for vaping

Right... there's a lot of good info on The Flavor Apprentice (a division of The Perfumer's Apprentice) on certain things that should not be used for vaping, and I'm thinking emulsion may be one of them. I need to study this stuff more myself :D Anyway I expect that same info is probably also on the DIY forum(s) here on ECF. I'm gettin' long in the tooth & short in the memory, & both my brain cells are getting fuzzy around the edges. Must be from all that (ahmm) "nicotine".... but yeah, learn all ya can about this stuff. Capella makes a nice espresso flavoring but be very careful with it - I got a bit carried away and you don't wanna do that with that stuff. I'm thinking though maybe starting with 1 or 2% Capella Espresso, 4% TFA Coffee (clear), then add a drop at a time Sucralose (sweetener). Next time I order flavorings I intend to get some Ethyl Malto, and if I had any I'd probably try a touch of it in there too. I'm not sure what the stuff does exactly but I wonder if it's not the magic ingredient all my juices have been begging for. :D

One other strong suggestion for trying new juice and this is especially important for DIYers: get a couple of good dripping atomizers if your PV can use them. If you're using an auto battery setup this is not advisable, but otherwise it's a great investment. I'm using fairly new Cisco 1.8 Ohm 306 attys alternating with a 4-month-old Ikenvape 1.5 Ohm io6 and the flavor is so much better dripping I've about stopped using anything else. The Ciscos are available from Avid Vapor; the Ikenvapes haven't been available for months AFAIK or I'd have restocked on them. Next time I need some I'll probably try some bridgeless ones from here: SmartVapes Electronic Cigarettes, Electronic Cigarette I'd like to give them a try because if the quality is high the price is unbeatable. The others I mentioned are around $10 each but I must say the Ikenvape has been worth twice that, easily.

Final word: to anyone using a slim or otherwise lower than 450mAh battery, please do not use a low resistance atomizer or cartomizer on it. That is, I would use nothing less than 2.5 Ohms, absolutely nothing marked LR or DC (for dual coil). To do so is asking for trouble; at the very least, the useful life of the battery will be greatly diminished.

Hope someone found that helpful. Best of luck, many Blessings & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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ty warren i got another? how much will the taste be off useing pure vg that stuff is cheap to work out the right flavor ratio
and whats the best to test the mix out on i been useing daul core cartos and washing them out with everclear and leting them dry should i go back to an atty

The pure USP Glycerin I use is the Humco brand I buy at Walmart in the skin care section. If you ask for it chances are they won't have a clue what you're talking about; it's just pure, unscented, U.S. pharmaceutical grade Glycerin. It'll probably be sitting down there near the Corn Husker's Lotion or something.

The thing with VG is, it doesn't carry flavor or TH well but it produces vapor & smoothes the feel of the vape. PG carries flavor & throat hit but can be a bit harsh, especially to some people who are particularly sensitive to it. The trick here is to find a comfortable balance and that's different for different people. Also, keep in mind the vast majority of flavorings (AFAIK) are suspended in PG, so that has to be calculated into your mix. BTW there's a bunch of recipe calculators out there but here's the one I've been using: eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator I like the way it's set up. You can do a very small amount, tweak it until it's the way you want it (keeping track of your "tweaks" on the calculator, of course), then just change the target amount to make a larger batch if you wish. Handy!

Gotta crash for now... please keep us posted on how this all comes along for you, & best of luck! :toast:
 
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