Hello - and a few questions

[lime12]

Hello just joined and excited to join this community. I've never purchased an electronic cigarette before and have a few questions:

1. I'm trying to find the most popular device. I'm more interesting in something high quality, reliable, not too many bells and whistles, tried and tested etc.
I was looking at this thread and the most popular seems to be the "501".

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/13928-primary-device-preferences.html

I've tried looking for a 501 brand online and getting a bit confused as it seems there's more than one company that create 501 e cigarettes?

2. I'm from the UK and was wondering if someone could recommend a shop around London somewhere - if not can anyone recommend a good online store?

Thanks and hello to all, Lime

 

[zapped]

I cant help you with the London shop however I might be able to alleviate some confusion.

501's refers to the connection between the battery of an electronic cigarette or Personal Vapourizer and the atomizer.Its pretty much become the universal standard for batteries and accessories although you still find some companies and individuals using 808s.

A couple of questions to hopefully get you started in the right direction, How many cigarettes are you currently smoking per day?
And what kind of price range were you looking at?

 

[killnine]

lime12, for a first start, I would recommend the ego twist, which can be found under different names. It is variable voltage, which is a good thing, and not just some fancy hype. Get the 1100mah battery version (the battery is the device), and you won't have to charge it much. Get two if you can afford it and rotate. Boge cartomizers (look for unfilled ones with no juice in them) for filling with juice, and some sampler sizes of different juices to try. You can find lots of videos on how to refill/fill them and clean them to get a longer life from them. Get a kit so you get a usb/wall charger to go with it, but get the second battery hopefully at a cheaper price by itself. When you are ready to move up, look for a tank to put on the ego twist, like a kanger t3, or if you don't mind the slightly wider profile, the vivi nova mini or vivi nova. Enjoy.

 

[killnine]

lime12, for a first start, I would recommend the ego twist, which can be found under different names. It is variable voltage, which is a good thing, and not just some fancy hype. Get the 1100mah battery version (the battery is the device), and you won't have to charge it much. Get two if you can afford it and rotate. Boge cartomizers (look for unfilled ones with no juice in them) for filling with juice, and some sampler sizes of different juices to try. You can find lots of videos on how to refill/fill them and clean them to get a longer life from them. Get a kit so you get a usb/wall charger to go with it, but get the second battery hopefully at a cheaper price by itself. When you are ready to move up, look for a tank to put on the ego twist, like a kanger t3, or if you don't mind the slightly wider profile, the vivi nova mini or vivi nova. Enjoy.

Almost forgot, make sure you get a drop tip of some kind with your kit, or get one or two. The cartomizers can be used without one, but a tip is much nicer.

 

[lime12]

Thanks for the help Zapped.

I don't really smoke a lot, just a couple a day, maybe more if I'm socializing. I have pretty good willpower and could stop if I wanted to, but I don't want to stop as I enjoy it. I don't like the idea of polluting my lungs though hence why I'm looking at the e cigarette.

Ok 501 is the type of connection the cigarettes has. So is there anyway of comparing brands of e cigarettes? IE Which company brand is most popular/tried and tested? I did a bit of searching on the forum and turned up that poll in my previous post but as you said it seems to be the style of e cigarette rather than brand.

One thing that just worries me a bit is some study that was done where they found the nicotine delivery was not consistent for each puff, hence why I wanted something good and reputable.

Thanks again
Lime

edit: Budget isn't too important. Whatever the average rate for one would be - nothing silly expensive but nothing that'd compromise on quality.

 

[lime12]

Thanks killnine, there seems to be a lot more to e cigarettes than I originally thought.

Will take a look at the ego twist.

 

[killnine]

Thanks killnine, there seems to be a lot more to e cigarettes than I originally thought.

Will take a look at the ego twist.

Don't overthink it, stay cheap but well known for your first setup. Once you get more into it you'll find there are a lot of different ways to spend money, but your first device shouldn't be one of them. Don't bother with the ones that look like cigarettes. The twist is highly regarded, and although it might break after some time or abuse, if you have two, you always have a backup. Cartomizers will last you, based on your average smoking habits, quite some time, if not all day once you fill it with juice, and you can just refill the next day. After a while you can throw it out and use a new one, or wash them out, dry them out, and refill again. The only negative to cartomizers is that they can burn and taste nasty if you hit too frequently, chain vaping it, instead of giving it a slight break between hits. It shouldn't be a problem for you based on your needs. However, once you get into it, you might want to vape more than you smoked, so you might want a tank type system like the vivi nova/vivi mini or kanger t3 that holds more juice. There are all kinds of flavors. Don't assume you need something that tastes like what you smoked. Since you didn't smoke much, you probably want to start at a lower level of nicotine in the juice, maybe 12mg or less. Or maybe, like my fiance, you want a goot nicotine hit and then you put it down for while and forget about it, so 24mg. After a while maybe you can slowly lower the nicotine level in the juie you get until you are even down to 0, and you're only doing it for the flavor

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi and welcome! Once you have 5 posts, you can post in the UK sub-forum and see what vendors they recommend.

 

[zapped]

I actually just found this out but it seems the Volt and V2 kits offered by Smokeless Image are voltage regulated.IMO that is a HUGE plus.

In standard batteries they start off at around 4.2 volts fully charged and drop off the more they are used.In vaping this causes the amount of flavor and vapor production to go down gradually as the day progresses.

Regulated voltage keeps the vapor production, flavor and hit consistent throughout the day.

Based on the info you provided sounds like either one of those models would be a good starter kit for you and can be found here Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette

Correct me if Im wrong but I do think those use the 808 connections vs the 501's if thats a consideration for you.

 

[zapped]

Ego twists also offer the same regulated voltage with the benefit of longer battery life in a slightly larger form factor.

 

[Sandcrab]

UK Ecig Store

20 - 24 Broadwick Street

London W1F 8HT

 

[BusyBee]

Hi there

I'm a newbie and uk based (but oversea's at the mo) I can't give any advice on what the best stuff is etc but I ordered the Vision eGo starter bundle from Ecigwizard.com it was £45 and really had everything I needed to get started. The only thing I wish I had done differently was to get some spare clearomizers. Goodluck on your hunt, it is quite daunting at first x

BBxxx

 

[vsummer1]

Welcome to ECF. I think you need to know that you are looking for a 510 NOT a 501. That is the threading of the things you screw together, and it is the most popular size. Also, that poll you found from was 2009!!! Gear has come a LONG way since that poll was taken! But, the 510 connection is still out there. I think that is your confusion!

You will need a battery. There are many different kinds, and without knowing more about your needs it is difficult to recommend anything. Many people like to start with a cig-a-like, it is generally the size of a cigarette and may even come with a PCC (personal charging case) that you can carry them around in just like a pack of cigarettes. Though I must warn you that many people find that they don't work well enough and want a larger battery. This is where the 510 threading comes in, if you buy the cig-a-likes and find you don't like charging them all the time and want something that goes a bit longer between charges, you can still use the juice delivery system you choose if you get them 510 threaded. Whatever you do, do NOT get a system that signs you up for a monthly deal, they are usually very hard to get out of, overpriced and not very effective. The eGo is very popular for beginners if you don't mind the larger battery.

Which leads to the juice delivery system. That is what screws onto the battery and will contain the attomizer which is what heats up the juice and turns it to vapor. Again, 510 threaded. Make sure you get the kind that is one part and not 2 (meaning one is a tank that screws to the attomizer that screws to the battery) as those are generally older also. Again, without knowing your needs better it is hard to make a recommendation. The cig-a-likes will use a cartomizer, and if you go that route be aware that you can buy juice separately or prefilled cartos - buying "blank" cartos and juice and filling them yourself is easy and will save you a LOT of money.

I agree with Ocelot, check out the UK forum as they can advise you on the best places to buy without having to ship from the USA. Or better yet, may be able to lead you to a location near you. Once you have found what you like, come back and ask again before you buy to make sure you have found something that is tried and true.

There are a lot of people here to help you, so don't let the confusion get you down, just ask!

 

[The Ocelot]

...In standard batteries they start off at around 4.2 volts fully charged and drop off the more they are used.

??? Standard JoyeTech eGos are regulated, the clones are hit and miss. JoyeTech also makes eGo "Upgrade" batteries, which are odd little critters (I bought one by accident thinking it was a standard eGo). They have 2 modes: regulated and unregulated. I'm not sure what the point of the product is, since while the voltage varies, you don't have much control over it. I think it might have been an idea they were experimenting with before the Twist came out.

 

[zapped]

??? Standard JoyeTech eGos are regulated, the clones are hit and miss. JoyeTech also makes eGo "Upgrade" batteries, which are odd little critters (I bought one by accident thinking it was a standard eGo). They have 2 modes: regulated and unregulated. I'm not sure what the point of the product is, since while the voltage varies, you don't have much control over it. I think it might have been an idea they were experimenting with before the Twist came out.

Look at my join date...I only used an Ego for a couple of weeks before moving on to a mod. What I meant by standard batteries was just that...standard...not regulated. Back when I started kr808s and 510 yetis were all the rage.

Thanks for the correction btw vsummer not sure why I want to type 501 instead of 510, must be the slysdexia kicking in

 

[vsummer1]

Look at my join date...I only used an Ego for a couple of weeks before moving on to a mod. What I meant by standard batteries was just that...standard...not regulated. Back when I started kr808s and 510 yetis were all the rage.

Thanks for the correction btw vsummer not sure why I want to type 501 instead of 510, must be the slysdexia kicking in

No one caught it in all those posts, I was a bit worried. It actually was carried over from the OP. I made that mistake also when I first started, and was confused over that one for a while! It's tough starting out with such a small, overlooked dyslexic moment, but I wandered aimlessly for weeks thinking "why can't I find that stupid 501?"