I bought these batteries from a Canadian distributor and was wondering about the warning on the wrap. Are these warnings just to cover the companies ... or should I not use these at all?
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The warning is due vaping gear being classified as a tobacco product as well as nic. This the manufacturer covering their .... due to the classification and idiot vaper's putting uncovered batteries in their pocket with their keys. No worries as long as they come from a reputable battery vendor. @dom qp is our resident go to guy for Canadian vendors. I'm pretty sure he's the one. We shall see.
If it doesn't clearly state what the volts and amps are, personally I would replace them with well known, not-warning-labeled batteries. As I understand, it's the amp draw that a mod can pull that can cause harm to batteries not rated for high amps.
Roughly, a 4v battery with a 0.16 atomizer will pull 25 amps. If you have two 15-amp batteries doing the work, you're just about maxing them out (25 of the [15x2]). I like having a little headroom and I use 40-amp batteries.
Go for the best you can find, that way you don't have to worry. The most harmful thing about vaping is the batteries.
Oh, yea, and according to the fDa, not only are the batteries dangerous, but also the quickly-dissipating vapor, and the delicious smell, and the lack of tar, and the lack of carcinogens, and that big tobacco ain't makin' money if you vape. Very dangerous stuff
Roughly, a 4v battery with a 0.16 atomizer will pull 25 amps. If you have two 15-amp batteries doing the work, you're just about maxing them out (25 of the [15x2]). I like having a little headroom and I use 40-amp batteries.
Go for the best you can find, that way you don't have to worry. The most harmful thing about vaping is the batteries.
Oh, yea, and according to the fDa, not only are the batteries dangerous, but also the quickly-dissipating vapor, and the delicious smell, and the lack of tar, and the lack of carcinogens, and that big tobacco ain't makin' money if you vape. Very dangerous stuff
The warning is a standard CYA, none of the cells we use are intended for end consumer / retail sales.
None of the recommended authentic name brand 18650 cells will have an amp rating on the label.
There is no such thing as an 18650 cell with more than a 30a CDR and those are all in the 1500mah range.
When using a regulated power device battery amp drain is calculated differently than when using a mechanical.
This explains it in simple terms --->Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod | E-Cigarette Forum
None of the recommended authentic name brand 18650 cells will have an amp rating on the label.
There is no such thing as an 18650 cell with more than a 30a CDR and those are all in the 1500mah range.
When using a regulated power device battery amp drain is calculated differently than when using a mechanical.
This explains it in simple terms --->Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Welcome...glad you found us! smart...asking questions about batteries is smart. There are some reputable places to buy batteries. Illumn and RTD is where I go.
Are there such a thing as real 40amp batteries? I thought the highest gettable amp rating was 30ampIf it doesn't clearly state what the volts and amps are, personally I would replace them with well known, not-warning-labeled batteries. As I understand, it's the amp draw that a mod can pull that can cause harm to batteries not rated for high amps.
Roughly, a 4v battery with a 0.16 atomizer will pull 25 amps. If you have two 15-amp batteries doing the work, you're just about maxing them out (25 of the [15x2]). I like having a little headroom and I use 40-amp batteries.
Go for the best you can find, that way you don't have to worry. The most harmful thing about vaping is the batteries.
Oh, yea, and according to the fDa, not only are the batteries dangerous, but also the quickly-dissipating vapor, and the delicious smell, and the lack of tar, and the lack of carcinogens, and that big tobacco ain't makin' money if you vape. Very dangerous stuff
Almost every battery I get (from reputable suppliers) comes with a warning not to use in vaping applications. It's a legal covering of butts, but those batteries could still be rewraps. The best way (and only way) that I know of to be certain batteries aren't rewraps is to buy from reputable suppliers. Could look here for a battery's true amp rating, and to see if Mooch has tested your batteries, if they aren't from the big three manufactures. There's also a chart that lists the (true, not inflated ratings of batteries) and reputable manufacturers to buy from in the last cell. I would link the chart, but have not had success in doing that so far, but there is tons of helpful info on this blog: Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Best of luck, I probably wouldn't vape those batteries or assume they are 10 amp batteries and use them accordingly, until you figure out what they are.
Anna
Best of luck, I probably wouldn't vape those batteries or assume they are 10 amp batteries and use them accordingly, until you figure out what they are.
Anna
Like what @Topwater Elvis said, there are no such thing as an unprotected 18650 cell manufactured directly for consumer use. There are only a few Lithium Ion companies out there, and they sell to other companies for use. Sony, LG, Samsung, Panasonic, and Sanyo are the only ones I know of, and they each manufacture many different varieties and qualities of batteries. Any others, and they probably take off the wrapping on the cell, and wrap it with another wrapper... usually with the branded company on it. That is what your battery looks like it has been done.
Now, that being said, That company may wish for their cells not to be used in Ecigarettes. There is a guy named Mooch who does a lot of testing of batteries to find out their true qualities. He cannot tell you what battery yours are, since the company that put the wrapper on might've changed what cell that wrapper is around (they've been known to do that). I always find it best to stick with mooch's recommendations, and buy an Authentic battery on his list from a known distributor. They've been known to make fake wraps to put on cells to double the price on the batteries. Here is his link.
Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
looks like we pretty much said the same thing at the same time.... Jynx!.. you owe me a soda.
If you can not identify the manufacturer of a battery, you should not use it for vaping. Electronic cigarettes require a minimum battery amperage to be used relatively safely, and if you can not identify the maker or model of the battery, you don't know the batteries specifications.
I do not recognize that wrapper as one of the major battery manufacturers. There is no apparent identification markers (make, model, specifications) on it. I would not use that battery.
They appear to be a generic battery; these are unknown batteries of unknown quality by an unknown manufacturer, and not worth the risk using in your mod.
There is no such animal. If you are using a so-called "pulse" discharge rating, then you are wrong for doing so.
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Amp Ratings: Continuous vs Pulse Ratings
Even if the wrapper says 40 amps, its a lie. Aftermarket companies (Efest, AWT, MXJO, Imren, et al) market their batteries to vapers looking for high amp batteries and intentionally over-rate their batteries to gain a marketing edge over legitimate battery manufacturers like Lg, Samsung, and Sony.
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded) Battery?
Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised
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Anna
@Baditude, the OP's cells appear to be LGDBHG21865 / LG HG2 for short.
The warning on the wrap is consistent with all authentic LG HG2's being made recently / last 6 or more months.
I have no knowledge of Canadian suppliers, there is nothing in the OP's picture that would lead me to think they aren't legit LG HG2.
The warning on the wrap is consistent with all authentic LG HG2's being made recently / last 6 or more months.
I have no knowledge of Canadian suppliers, there is nothing in the OP's picture that would lead me to think they aren't legit LG HG2.
You may well be correct, Topwater. However, based on the OP photo, I find it difficult to know with any kind of certainy that they are indeed LG HG2. All I see is a chocolate wrap with warning printed on them. Do the current HG2 not have the below identifying printing on the wrap?
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Yeah, I have LG HG2 batteries also. I'm quite familiar with them.
As to the warning on the wrapper. Lg, Samsung, and Sony manufacturers are not so keen that vapers are using their batteries for vaping.
As to the warning on the wrapper. Lg, Samsung, and Sony manufacturers are not so keen that vapers are using their batteries for vaping.
I have to agree with Baditude. The only thing I can tell by the pictures, are they're the same color. The markings aren't what I know LG's to make.. If you google LG HG2's, You won't find that marking on any of the authentics that the OP posted.
Im having trouble uploading pictures and a letter directly from LG Chem about the warning on the label but authentic LgHg2 do have that warning printed on the wrap. Some LG plants may not as of yet started but all I've seen have the warning.
From a place that some folks consider a reputable source.
Here too ---> LG HG2 18650 20A Flat Top 3000mAh Battery - Genuine - Wholesale Discount
One of my businesses handles pallets of cases of the same cells we use, Ive seen thousands upon thousands of these LG cells in the last month alone and have been seeing them for about 6 months.
The OP could take a picture of the other side where the actual identifying letters & number are.
From a place that some folks consider a reputable source.
Here too ---> LG HG2 18650 20A Flat Top 3000mAh Battery - Genuine - Wholesale Discount
One of my businesses handles pallets of cases of the same cells we use, Ive seen thousands upon thousands of these LG cells in the last month alone and have been seeing them for about 6 months.
The OP could take a picture of the other side where the actual identifying letters & number are.
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