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So much info out there it is so confusing. Got my first ecig it is a riva-t. got it from theplumeroom.com. I'm really having hard time understanding how these things work and all the different ones out there. What is the difference between a atomizer, cartomizer and a clearomizer??? My riva-t is an atomizer. It came with two in the kit and one of the atomizers has already quit working? As a newbie, what do you all suggest for someone who vapes a lot. I need a strong throat hit, lots of vapor and i want to only fill that tank once a day and charge the battery once a day.

Thanks ya'll...and wish there was a dictionary to explain all the terms used in this vaping world :)
 

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Hi BethAnn, welcome to ECF and the wonderful world of vaping.

While I'm not a total noob, I'm also far less in tune with everything than a lot of members here. I know your pain, though, all too well, and in the past it's led me back to smoking.

I would suggest an eGo kit of some sort, as it's the standard at the moment. The Twist is a variable voltage device by Joye, and seems to be pretty popular at the moment as it's relatively cheap and allows you to dial in for a variety of juices and atomizers. You will want to also look at a tank/cartomizer combo. Something along the lines of a Vivi Nova or a Kanger T2. Their are other options, of course, but for ease of use and cost concerns, you really can't go wrong with this combo or something similar.
 

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I wrote the Vaper's Handbook to help new users figure things out. Give it a read, you won't regret it.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/shoganinja/2998-vapers-handbook.html#comment5864

There are only a few different ways to vape. They all consist of an atomizer and some sort of delivery system to get the juice to the atomizer.

Atomizer/tank cartridge/cartridge: This combo of an atomizer that fits tank cartridges (just juice in a tank) or old-school regular cartridges (that use a filler material medium to hold the juice) is kind of outdated. It's just an atomizer on top of a reservoir of juice that feeds into the atomizer and you vape it. You can also pull off all the cartridges or tanks and use it as a dripping atomizer with a drip tip. The problem with tank systems is that they have a tendency to leak. You can buy replacements for these systems but, to my knowledge, they are only made by original equipment manufacturers of EGO PV's. You can get drip atomizers (designed for dripping) if you look around. Common examples are the 306 LR atomizer, and the Magma series (by volcano ecigs). Overall not a bad vape if you use a tank system, cartridges are terrible, and dripping is awesome if you do it right.

Cartomizer: This is a portmanteau of the words cartridge and atomizer. It's an atomizer that is wrapped with polyfill. You add liquid to it and it keeps the atomizer coil wet with juice when you vape it. Good brands are Boge, Smoketech, and Kanger. Sometimes they are paired with a tank system that uses punched holes in the side of the cartomizer to allow juice to feed into the polyfill and keep it wet. These are kind of like "poor man's tanks" and are not to be confused with Clearomizers. A common example of one of these is the MAP tank system (Most Angry Pirate industries). Cartomizers are what killed the original cartridge system. The nice part about them is they are cheap so it makes flavor swapping easy. They don't last long unless you learn how to clean them properly (I have boges that are almost 6 months old working great still) but their biggest drawback is that the polyfill alters the flavor of the juice. It's an OK vape.

Clearomizer: Usually the CE series of tanks that has either a ceramic or silica based wick wrapped in a coil of either nichrome or kanthal wire. The juice is contained in the tank and wicks up to the coil via (you guessed it) the wick which is non-flammable. These are probably your second best vape on the market. The Vision Vivi Nova and the EGO Vision Clearomizer (The Stardust is it's nickname) are both very good systems. The Clearomizer, in my eyes,
reigns supreme because of its low cost, and the fact that you can learn to rebuild them which not only makes you independent of the market (like if there's an ecig ban you can continue to vape as long as you know how to DIY your own juice as they can't/won't ever ban the chemicals to make ejuice).
When you rebuild them you can swap the wick material out for a (cheaper) cotton wick which improves flavor and wicking properties, but you have to be careful not to ever let the wick get dry since it is flammable.

Genesis: The genesis is a mod tank. Either you make one yourself or you spent a LOT of money (well over $100) to buy one made for you. It's a tank that uses a wick made of stainless steel mesh which wicks the juice up into a coil of kanthal or nichrome wrapped around the stainless steel wick. You will see these referred to as SS. Stainless Steel. This is the most difficult level of vaping and it is often considered the ultimate in flavor. Advanced knowledge of how PVs (personal vaporizers), atomizers, and rebuilding them is required to use one of these systems effectively. Examples of this are either called the Genesis, Scubagen, Scubabat, or Zenesis (a series of genesis atomizer tanks made by Zen, a famous craftsman). Zenesis is considered to be the top of the market as they use a crushed quartz tank, surgical stainless steel parts, and superior stainless steel wicks. They sell for $150+ and have a waiting list of 6 months or more.
 
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That is wonderful info lonnieperrin....and thanks for taking the time to explain all that. Wow, really, really helpful. I love hearing what everyone is using and what they bought and didn't like. Will head on over to gotvapes.com and see what that is all about. I have not smoked a real cig since last Monday evening. Almost a full week. I've smoked for 30 years and never thought this day would come :)
 

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You will be surprised, I think. The vaping community has got to be the single most informative, friendly, enthusiastic, sharing/caring internet community I have yet to see. It's really astounding. The vendors are great, as well. Just be careful, if anything looks too good or sounds too good in your purchasing adventures, it just might be. Good luck, stick with it, great days are ahead.
 

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Shoga, awesome guide, bookmarked for future reference and sharing. Great stuff, honest and to the point without being too confusing. I think you sold me on trying out some of the better cartomizers out there these days. Thanks.

Thanks for the compliment. I am doing this because I had to research for a MONTH to learn what was what before I was able to get a setup ordered and start vaping. The Vaper's Handbook is over 6 months of research culminated into one easy to read and down to earth package, and it's free! It's a work in progress so please come back from time to time as I will be updating it pretty much daily with questions that I get from the New Members Forum. Also, if you have ANY questions that need answering, or you need any sort of clarification PLEASE let me know via PM and I will gladly answer all of them and add them to/edit my handbook accordingly.
 

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Riva Tank Starter Kit 1100mah by Riva | The Plume Room

This is the kit that i'm using now...give me your thoughts...is this a good one, should I add something else to this etc....

I hope I don't bust your bubble. The kit you are using now is simply average. There's nothing wrong with that setup just maybe consider getting some Vivi Nova clearomizers to put on it and abandon the tank system because it is problematic. That is an EGO battery knockoff so it should be a 3.6 volt battery. In reality though a lot of them vape at 3.4 volts when tested on a meter. The only drawback to this is that because battery itself is somewhat underpowered the only way you are going to get a good vape on that is if you use ~1.7ohm atomizers on it. Go lower and it'll burn up and taste bad, go higher and the vaper will be anemic. Because it is not a variable voltage system like the EGO C Twist, it is also not very versatile as far as what you can do to alter how it vapes or what resistance of atomizers you can use to best effect. It is a 510 connection though which is the most versatile connection on the market so there will be many options as far as atomizers/cartomzers/clearomizers that will fit it. Rest assured that there are millions of people with batteries like this so you are not alone. Your kit is literally the measuring stick by which all PVs are measured.
 

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Love your input Shoganinga! Maybe that explains why one of my atomizers already burned or shorted out after 4 days of use? so as far as a battery you suggest a battery that you can adjust the voltage? Ahhh...lots to learn and i want to know it all now...LOL

You're welcome. It could be that, what was the resistance of the atomizers you were using? In order for your battery to burn out an atomizer it would have to be REALLY low resistance like 1.2 ohms. More probably the cause was that you used juice that was dark in color. They tend to burn out coils like no one's business.

Yeah, just read my blog, it'll take you a little while, but what you learn you can take with you everywhere you go! You get a 6 months research worth of education in one sitting. All for free. You can learn how to rebuild the Vivi Nova or the Stardust and save a bunch of money, and you can learn to make your own DIY ejuice just the way you want it (and learn what it is you want through inexpensive experimentation). Once you get it all working for you, you will be spending pennies a day to vape. I got my costs down to less than 20 cents per day right now. I am nothing if not frugal but I am not willing to sacrifice quality to do it.

An EGO C Twist 1000mah is the best battery on the market for the price. You can get them for $26 at http://www.altsmoke.com. I've seen them go for as little as $20 but the color selection is very limited. As far as colors I recommend either black or stainless (NOT chrome) because they don't show fingerprints or stains and they tend to last longer as a result (no one wants a dirty fingerprint covered PV!). The reason why I say the EGO C Twist is the best is all in the blog too so there's no need for me to retype it. Not only do I teach you things I explain why I came to the conclusions that I did. Because you already have a charger that will be compatible with the Twist just getting 1 EGO Twist replacement battery will change your life. 2 if you got money to burn. You can always use your Riva as a backup or you can sell it to a friend and get them to quit smoking like you. You didn't waste your money if it got you to quit smoking! Ideally with 2 batteries going (1000-1100mah) you should be recharging them once every other day (1 per day). As far as the Vivi Nova Clearomizer tank you should also be refilling that no more than once a day either so I answers all the questions to your original post. Just do me a favor when all this is done and pay it forward to the next noob begging you for answers to their questions. (or just send them to my blog :) )

Here's a link to a cheaper 900mah but I saw a link that I forgot to save yesterday that was a green one for 20 bucks in 1000 mah. It's free shipping too:
http://www.vaporbeast.com/product_p/a28.htm?Click=391&Click=391&Click=391
 
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I read your blog and it's my new go to when i have questions. Such great info, you did a wonderful job putting that all together. I'm going to be getting a ego c twist battery and the vivi nova clearomizer tank. Can't wait!!!

Ok I probably should have mentioned this before, but before you order do check between the regular Vivi Nova and the Vivi Nova Mini, and see which one you like the best. The regular size is cool, and it has the option of buying a metal tank for it which turns your PV into a mini-mace self defense weapon :). The mini vivi nova fits the ego twist a little better and may be more pleasing to you, but holds less juice. It's all about what you want. I updated my blog to reflect this info and I also added a couple more links to the thread sleeve/collar section about making your vivi nova look better so there are more choices now to streamline the look.
 

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A Quick Down and Dirty breakdown of the mechanics of the e-Cig
E-Liquid – the consumable
Battery – the rechargeable
Atomizer – the work horse (that burns out and requires constant replacement or rebuilding)

E-Liquid – Also referred to as Juice, this is the liquid that your e-cig is vaporizing in order for your body to absorb the nicotine. I refer you to www.vaporrater.com

I am a BIG fan of DIY (do it yourself)

Battery – This is usually the largest component of the e-cig and provides the power to convert the juice into vapor. Available in many sizes providing both increased life (mah) (more puffs per charge) and increased voltage (more vapor per hit).

I have grown accustomed to the 4.2v ECHO Manual Battery for 510/eGo (1300 mAh)
4.2v ECHO Manual Battery for 510/eGo (1300 mAh) (ECHOBATT)
Dragonfly eCigs - Distributor of Joyetech 510-T, eGO-T, 510, eGo, and large variety of MOD
Don’t forget the JOYE eGo Wall Charger
JOYE eGo Wall Charger (includes USB cable)
JOYE eGo Wall Charger (includes USB cable) (JOYEEGOWALLC)

Atomizer – The Atty, as it is commonly called, is where the action happens. This is where your juice goes from liquid to vapor.

I am still researching this, but so far I have been using the:
CE3 Smokymizer - 5pc (2.8-3.1©) (CE3SMOKYZ528)
 
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