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stols001

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Hi welcome to ECF. I'm glad your issue "fixed itself" in whatever manner. I know almost nothing about those types of setups, I kind of chose to avoid them because I wanted more durable vape gear, and also, it's probably (even if refilling) one of the more expensive ways to vape, the vape can often fail, and etc.

If you are enjoying yours setup and finding success, by all means continue with it. However, most vapers have backup gear, and there are setups that would probably provide you with just as satisfying a vape, with less headaches along the way, and far more flexibility in terms of adjustability of wattage, airflow and other things that can really be dialed in to suit YOUR individual preference. I might do some research on the board and maybe start looking for different types of setups. If you are currently finding your setup satisfying in terms of draw and amount of vapor, I'd explore MTL setups. One that I'll often recommend is the Aspire zelos 50 watt kit. It will have a Nautilus 2 tank with it, and while it's an internal battery mod, it's going to be more robust than your current setup. The N2 is a good "beginner" MTL tank, it was my quitting tank (fair disclosure I've moved on from the tank to other, equally as good MTL vapes, but some of them are rebuildable and/or otherwise different. I still think the N2 is a good tank for starting vaping, and my husband is currently using my Zelos setup to quit (hopefully) himself.

I realize this isn't so much answering your question, but it's always good to know what your options are, and it's good to have more than one setup in case yours breaks. That can be unpliant if not prepared and etc.

Best of luck and welcome. :)

Anna
 
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i see, interesting to know how they went to such lengths to discourage self refilling.
Welcome and glad you joined.
The logic pro appears to be marketed to convenience/gas station stores which cater to simplicity and at the spur of the moment buying. Filling a cartridge to save money can be a bother to those who opt for ease of maintenance by simply throwing the old cartridge away and replacing with a new one. I would not recommend trying to fill a empty Logic Pro cartridge because the wicking medium is well past it's prime pristine flavor carrying characteristics.
The two kits below may suit your needs if you choose to fill a tank with e liquid. The Evod comes with two pens:
Kanger EVOD Starter Kit - Authentic Kangertech™ - Vapor Authority
Another good choice:
Innokin Endura T18 Starter Kit
 

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i see, interesting to know how they went to such lengths to discourage self refilling.
That's the "art of the deal" design by some manufacturers. Companies using such a system design force you to buy their propietary attachments to keep you buying their product exclusively. They are known as "closed systems" as opposed to "open systems".

Some folks only want the most simple and most convenient way to vape. They don't want to mess with replacing coils/wicks or refilling their juice attachments. These folks will pay a premium price for that convenience. We live in a disposable society and disposable products seem to be the norm nowadays.

"Open" vs "Closed" Systems

Open and Closed System e-cigarettes are the terms used to describe the two main types of e-cigarette.

Experienced vapors will know that there are a whole host of different ways to vape. However, anyone new to e-cigarettes may be unsure about the differences between Open and Closed System e-cigarettes. The contrasting features result in different vapes. In this guide we look at what the differences are as well as the advantages of each type.

The main difference between Open and Closed System e-cigarettes is the way the e-liquid is delivered to the heating mechanism. Open System e-cigarettes have a clearomiser which is filled with e-liquid manually by the user, whereas Closed System e-cigarettes use refills supplied by the manufacturer, which come ready-filled with e-liquid, and attach directly onto the e-cig battery; the flavors available are limited to what the manufacturer happens to offer.

Open System e-cigs also have a removable mouthpiece, whereas the mouthpiece on Closed System e-cigs is built into the e-cigarette cartridge. Most "cigalikes" and "pod" systems fall into the closed system; but there are a few pod systems that allow you to get empty pods and fill with your own favorite e-liquids.
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Closed System - Cartridge and battery are attached together; Closed System e-cigarettes are similar to Open Systems, consisting of only an e-cig battery and a cartridge. The main difference is that the cartridge usually cannot be refilled like an Open System can.

A typical closed system would be a cigalike like Blue or Vuse, or many of the pod mods.


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Open System - mouthpiece, clearomizer, and battery.

The main three parts of an Open System e-cigarette are the mouthpiece, the clearomiser and the e-cigarette battery. The middle section allows the user to manually add their own bottled e-liquid and the wick and coil part can be detached/replaced to increase the longivity of the tank.
 

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Welcome.

Logic Pro is a typical system designed to make them money and make you sad.

The industry is full of sharks swimming around bribing reviewers and fake review websites.

The 4 or 5 star reviews are done to rip you off and make other people money as the 'profit' from selling junk is passed down the system.

Just get out of there, and fast. Vape on, be happy, not taken for a fool.

Just ask if you are confused. Most reviews are not to be trusted. Seriously.
 

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Welcome and glad you joined.
The logic pro appears to be marketed to convenience/gas station stores which cater to simplicity and at the spur of the moment buying. Filling a cartridge to save money can be a bother to those who opt for ease of maintenance by simply throwing the old cartridge away and replacing with a new one. I would not recommend trying to fill a empty Logic Pro cartridge because the wicking medium is well past it's prime pristine flavor carrying characteristics.
The two kits below may suit your needs if you choose to fill a tank with e liquid. The Evod comes with two pens:
Kanger EVOD Starter Kit - Authentic Kangertech™ - Vapor Authority
Another good choice:
Innokin Endura T18 Starter Kit
When i saw the logic pro for the first time, i thought it was just a rebranded copy of the endura t18 that i saw online, hence why i bought it without any qualms. The evod looks much more attractive though. If possible, do you know any good brands that have the good draw/hit but also use the automatic pulling system? Like basic cigalikes do? I just dont like the button, thats really it.
 
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Hi welcome to ECF. I'm glad your issue "fixed itself" in whatever manner. I know almost nothing about those types of setups, I kind of chose to avoid them because I wanted more durable vape gear, and also, it's probably (even if refilling) one of the more expensive ways to vape, the vape can often fail, and etc.

If you are enjoying yours setup and finding success, by all means continue with it. However, most vapers have backup gear, and there are setups that would probably provide you with just as satisfying a vape, with less headaches along the way, and far more flexibility in terms of adjustability of wattage, airflow and other things that can really be dialed in to suit YOUR individual preference. I might do some research on the board and maybe start looking for different types of setups. If you are currently finding your setup satisfying in terms of draw and amount of vapor, I'd explore MTL setups. One that I'll often recommend is the Aspire zelos 50 watt kit. It will have a Nautilus 2 tank with it, and while it's an internal battery mod, it's going to be more robust than your current setup. The N2 is a good "beginner" MTL tank, it was my quitting tank (fair disclosure I've moved on from the tank to other, equally as good MTL vapes, but some of them are rebuildable and/or otherwise different. I still think the N2 is a good tank for starting vaping, and my husband is currently using my Zelos setup to quit (hopefully) himself.

I realize this isn't so much answering your question, but it's always good to know what your options are, and it's good to have more than one setup in case yours breaks. That can be unpliant if not prepared and etc.

Best of luck and welcome. :)

Anna
agreed, thank you, and ironically enough it is in fact more expensive than when i smoked.
 
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Hi welcome to ECF. I'm glad your issue "fixed itself" in whatever manner. I know almost nothing about those types of setups, I kind of chose to avoid them because I wanted more durable vape gear, and also, it's probably (even if refilling) one of the more expensive ways to vape, the vape can often fail, and etc.

If you are enjoying yours setup and finding success, by all means continue with it. However, most vapers have backup gear, and there are setups that would probably provide you with just as satisfying a vape, with less headaches along the way, and far more flexibility in terms of adjustability of wattage, airflow and other things that can really be dialed in to suit YOUR individual preference. I might do some research on the board and maybe start looking for different types of setups. If you are currently finding your setup satisfying in terms of draw and amount of vapor, I'd explore MTL setups. One that I'll often recommend is the Aspire zelos 50 watt kit. It will have a Nautilus 2 tank with it, and while it's an internal battery mod, it's going to be more robust than your current setup. The N2 is a good "beginner" MTL tank, it was my quitting tank (fair disclosure I've moved on from the tank to other, equally as good MTL vapes, but some of them are rebuildable and/or otherwise different. I still think the N2 is a good tank for starting vaping, and my husband is currently using my Zelos setup to quit (hopefully) himself.

I realize this isn't so much answering your question, but it's always good to know what your options are, and it's good to have more than one setup in case yours breaks. That can be unpliant if not prepared and etc.

Best of luck and welcome. :)

Anna
Thank you for your time and info, good place to start.
 
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If possible, do you know any good brands that have the good draw/hit but also use the automatic pulling system?
I'm sorry but if have only had experience of one device years ago that used sound in place of button actuation. Might want to ask the question in this forum:
General Vaping Discussion
 
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