Help getting my Riva vaping

[bic247]

well i took some hits off my friends KR808, but no this is my first time on my own, with my own juice and PV

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

You may not have put in enough juice and you're getting dry hits, but if it is producing a good amount of vapor but still tastes awful, you may have scorched the filling in your carto. If the filling is scorched, it's pretty much a goner. Try another one and make sure the filler is really soaked with juice. With cartos, you have to be careful not to burn them dry. Make sure they're well filled and top off a lot.

I was thinking that too.... when checking to see if it's vaping (got juice, got good connection, etc) I always just give the button short punches for a tiny bit of vapor if any. Also I like to try my juice out on an atomizer before filling a carto with it, but that's just me. And without a little (20 - 30%) VG in it, the stuff all tastes pretty gruesome to me, but again, that's just me.

 

[bic247]

yeah i actually failed and ordered 100% PG on accident but i do have some sampler packs coming in hopefully soon with 80/20

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

well i took some hits off my friends KR808, but no this is my first time on my own, with my own juice and PV

Was the juice your friend had 100%PG? Also, do you have any more cartos, and are they LR or SR (how many ohms resistance)? These thing can make a considerable difference in how the flavor comes through.

 

[bic247]

no his was not, uhhh 1.7 ohm, i think thats what u mean

 

[MsTick]

I hope you got a few cartos with that new Riva. I would just give the burny one a sniff test. If it smells burnt, then you probably did burn it. If it smells ok, then you may not really have it juiced-up enough. Dry hits - when you take a hit from a carto with little or no juice wicked to the coil - taste awful, but don't generally make the filler smell burnt. But if you fire up the coil when the filler and wick are dry, you can scorch the filler beyond repair. Metal cartos can't easily be opened up, so there's no way to see for sure without probably destroying your carto.

We all go through a pretty steep learning curve, so don't get frustrated - in a couple of days you'll have a feel for how much juice to use and when to top off. There's also a lot of information on the forum about the care and feeding of cartos, but you probably have enough new information to deal with for now. Try filling another carto. When you drip into the top, hold the carto at an angle so that the juice soaks into the filler, not down the center tube. Drip until the filler won't absorb any more, then let the carto sit for several minutes to let the liquid soak in. Try a few more drops to see if you really have it completely soaked, then blow out into a tissue. If absolutely no juice blows out, try a few more drops. You want it pretty much completely soaked, with the center tube clear. Now try it and see if that isn't better.

 

[MsTick]

Filling your own cartos is not the easiest way for a newbie to start out, but it's do-able. 1.7 ohm is a really hot coil, so most definitely make sure it's well-juiced.

 

[bic247]

i do it came with five, but no i dont smell any burnt odor, i suppose i could try anew?

 

[bic247]

its hard as hell for me to figure out how to do this, I've seen some vids on it but i guess im just doing it wrong still

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

no his was not, uhhh 1.7 ohm, i think thats what u mean

Yup, those are LR (low resistance) cartos, and they work fine for lots of juices on eGo & other larger batteries; that's mostly what I use on my E-Power (pretty similar in size/power, etc.). The slim, cig-sized batteries are restricted to standard resistance (around 3.0 ohm) cartos, somewhat higher. Your battery can use either LR or SR; for a variety of reasons, if you have a Joye eGo and hope to replicate the flavor you got on your friend's KR808 I'd probably try this using a 2.5 or possibly 3.0 ohm (pref. BOGE) carto and see what happens. (I mean, see what happens "taste-wise"... electrical compatibility is not a problem here

 

[bic247]

thank you for the help i hope i can figure this all out its kind of discouraging me right now to be quite honest. i do not want to give up though

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

i do it came with five, but no i dont smell any burnt odor, i suppose i could try anew?

What you *might* want to do, either with the one you've already filled or a new one (I'd probably use the one you've already filled but that's up to you of course) is fill it best you can, let it sit a few minutes, and when you blow through it, blow from the threaded (battery) end. Another possibility to consider: I don't know how much of that liquid you have but if it's a good bit, you could save it and either (a) pick up some vegetable glycerin at Walmart or a drug store/health food store etc & mix 2 pts VG to 8 pts your existing juice, or (b) order the same juice from the same vendor in 60/40 & mix equally with what you have. On the carto: it needs to be filled, but it doesn't need to be flooded. By blowing through from the threaded end, then looking through to see if you can see light through it, you can insure it is not flooded. At that point it should be ready to use. Happy Vaping!

 

[spaceballsrules]

I agree MsTick and Mr. Lockaby.

A Riva 510 with 1.7 ohm cartos filled with 100% PG juice is a pretty warm vape.

Start over with a new carto. Fill it by dripping into it, then flick it like you would an old-school thermometer. Repeat until the filling looks slushy. Then let it just sit there for 10 minutes so the juice has time to flow into the wick and saturate it. Come back to it and blow out any excess juice and clean the threads thoroughly. Vape happy!

There is a learning curve to all of this, but you develop a feel for it rather quickly.

At this point, it is time to start trying a few different cartos. Lockaby had some good suggestions. Try a few different brands, styles, and resistances (2.0, 2.4, 2.6, etc.) and see what you prefer.

 

[bic247]

At this point, it is time to start trying a few different cartos. Lockaby had some good suggestions. Try a few different brands, styles, and resistances (2.0, 2.4, 2.6, etc.) and see what you prefer.

i dont really have the money at the current moment to do that, but when i do, would that interfere with my battery or something? or no? still unsure all the dos and donts and everything in between plus im kinda slow lol

 

[spaceballsrules]

i dont really have the money at the current moment to do that, but when i do, would that interfere with my battery or something? or no? still unsure all the dos and donts and everything in between plus im kinda slow lol

The battery will be fine with different cartos, as long as they are 510 threaded. The 1.7 ohm cartos you have now are putting the most stress possible on the battery. A 2.0 ohm carto or higher would actually be beneficial to your battery's lifespan.

Here's a DO for you - when you charge your battery, always hook up the wall charger, USB charger, and battery BEFORE plugging it all into the wall socket.

Here's a DON'T for you - DON'T plug your battery into a USB port on a computer. Use a USB hub or a wall outlet.

 

[bic247]

hahaha thanks ill be sure to remember that, do you know any sites where i could get some 2.0 ohm cartos? i can get it in maybe a few weeks when i get my income tax/paycheck, will my PV be alright till then?

 

[spaceballsrules]

You should be fine for a little while.
Try Good Prophets for the best price (when they are in stock) - Boge 510 Cartomizers for 510 or eGo
Also, give Liberty Flights a try. They also carry lots of Riva parts. Be sure to use the coupon code "october20" for 20% off everything - Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - Boge Cartomizers

 

[bic247]

thank you hopefully i can get them soon

 

[bic247]

where could i buy some VG to mix with my 100% PG? since i got no clue what the hell im looking for can anyone tell me exactly what im looking for? and possibly how i can go about mixing it? i got maybe 4ml left of the 100% PG

 

[JasonInTN]

Try filling another carto. When you drip into the top, hold the carto at an angle so that the juice soaks into the filler, not down the center tube. Drip until the filler won't absorb any more, then let the carto sit for several minutes to let the liquid soak in. Try a few more drops to see if you really have it completely soaked, then blow out into a tissue. If absolutely no juice blows out, try a few more drops. You want it pretty much completely soaked, with the center tube clear. Now try it and see if that isn't better.

That was a good suggestion to fill by dripping. Friends don't let friends condom fill cartos. There is so much wasted juice and mess. The electrical connections are also compromised if the threads and mating surfaces are not cleaned sufficiently.