I got some 60 mg unflavored nic juice 75pg/25/vg how would I cut this to 36 mg with theout screwing up the pg/vg mix?
Help in cutting 60mg to 36mg
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Or 60 drops nic juice, 30 drops of PG and 10 drops of VG. But what about flavor%?
Here's a calculator : eJuice Recipe Calculator
Your flavoring is in a base, as is the nicotine, and what it's mostly cut with is usually the easy to obtain USPS Glycerin at WalMart (HUMCO brand) in the pharmacy area, near the band aids. If you also have Propylene Glycol you could maintain your PG/VG ratios. Some add water or alcohol as well.
I buy my nicotine juice in a PG base for this reason, I cut with VG and of course the flavoring to get the ratio I like, usually something like this : nic (PG 100mg/ml) 25%, flavoring (alcohol or water or PG or VG base) 15%-25% and VG 50%-60%. Because I like the vapor production, use more VG than some. If I wanted less VG, I would use a VG/water blend, say 80%/20% VG/water instead of straight VG.
Note : The water should be either distilled or de-mineralized.
Here's a calculator : eJuice Recipe Calculator
Your flavoring is in a base, as is the nicotine, and what it's mostly cut with is usually the easy to obtain USPS Glycerin at WalMart (HUMCO brand) in the pharmacy area, near the band aids. If you also have Propylene Glycol you could maintain your PG/VG ratios. Some add water or alcohol as well.
I buy my nicotine juice in a PG base for this reason, I cut with VG and of course the flavoring to get the ratio I like, usually something like this : nic (PG 100mg/ml) 25%, flavoring (alcohol or water or PG or VG base) 15%-25% and VG 50%-60%. Because I like the vapor production, use more VG than some. If I wanted less VG, I would use a VG/water blend, say 80%/20% VG/water instead of straight VG.
Note : The water should be either distilled or de-mineralized.
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As zoiDman says, 36/60 = .6. You will be cutting to 60% of original nic strength.
Say you want to make up 30ml of 36mg unflavored liquid.
60% of it will be 60mg liquid, so:
30ml x .6 = 18ml of 60mg nic liquid.
Now for the cutting liquid:
30ml - 18ml = 12ml of no-nic liquid.
And now the mix of 75% PG / 25% VG to make 12ml:
12 x .75 = 9ml of PG
12 x .25 = 3ml of VG
18ml 60mg liquid
9ml PG
3ml VG
= 30ml of 75/25 unflavored 36mg base
Say you want to make up 30ml of 36mg unflavored liquid.
60% of it will be 60mg liquid, so:
30ml x .6 = 18ml of 60mg nic liquid.
Now for the cutting liquid:
30ml - 18ml = 12ml of no-nic liquid.
And now the mix of 75% PG / 25% VG to make 12ml:
12 x .75 = 9ml of PG
12 x .25 = 3ml of VG
18ml 60mg liquid
9ml PG
3ml VG
= 30ml of 75/25 unflavored 36mg base
Thanks I have never used a pg/vg nic juice before and I wasn't sure how use it in the calculator Also could you help me with a 48mg?
Cutting and editing MaxUT's post, for 48 mg:
As zoiDman says, 48/60 = .8. You will be cutting to 80% of original nic strength. Actually, zoiDman didn't say that, but that's the right amount.
Say you want to make up 30ml of 48mg unflavored liquid.
80% of it will be 60mg liquid, so:
30ml x .8 = 24ml of 60mg nic liquid.
Now for the cutting liquid:
30ml - 24ml = 6ml of no-nic liquid.
And now the mix of 75% PG / 25% VG to make 6ml:
6 x .75 = 4.5ml of PG
6 x .25 = 1.5ml of VG
24ml 60mg liquid
4.5ml PG
1.5ml VG
= 30ml of 75/25 unflavored 48mg base
Voila!
As zoiDman says, 48/60 = .8. You will be cutting to 80% of original nic strength. Actually, zoiDman didn't say that, but that's the right amount.
Say you want to make up 30ml of 48mg unflavored liquid.
80% of it will be 60mg liquid, so:
30ml x .8 = 24ml of 60mg nic liquid.
Now for the cutting liquid:
30ml - 24ml = 6ml of no-nic liquid.
And now the mix of 75% PG / 25% VG to make 6ml:
6 x .75 = 4.5ml of PG
6 x .25 = 1.5ml of VG
24ml 60mg liquid
4.5ml PG
1.5ml VG
= 30ml of 75/25 unflavored 48mg base
Voila!
I think you are trying to just change the 60 mg/ml, without altering the pg/vg ratio, to 36 mg/ml and 48 mg/ml, zero flavor juice. It would help us to know how much you want to make. That way we can tell you exactly how much of each ingredient to use. In either case you need to have some additional PG fluid and additional VG fluid. This is to maintain the PG/VG ratio in your zero flavor nic juice. How to figuire it is in the formulations above. What we don't know is how much you want to make of the 36 mg/ml juice or the 48 mg/ml juice with your quantity of 60 mg/ml juice.
If you didn't want to maintain the same ratio of PG and VG in your zero flavored 60 mg/ml nic juice it would be easy to tell you to just add some amount of VG to dilute it with. But you would still need to tell us how much you want to make so we could tell you how much to add.
By the way, you do know you can OD and die from 0.5mg - 1.0mg per kilo of body weight? This is the lethal dose in humans at least half of the time (LD-50).
Say you weigh 110 lbs, then it would only take about 25mg-50mg, taken in short time, to put you in the hospital or a coffin. That's rapidly consuming/absorbing 1-2 ml of 25mg/ml juice. How many mls of that 60mg/ml juice do you have? Be careful, it is also absorbed through the skin.
If you didn't want to maintain the same ratio of PG and VG in your zero flavored 60 mg/ml nic juice it would be easy to tell you to just add some amount of VG to dilute it with. But you would still need to tell us how much you want to make so we could tell you how much to add.
By the way, you do know you can OD and die from 0.5mg - 1.0mg per kilo of body weight? This is the lethal dose in humans at least half of the time (LD-50).
Say you weigh 110 lbs, then it would only take about 25mg-50mg, taken in short time, to put you in the hospital or a coffin. That's rapidly consuming/absorbing 1-2 ml of 25mg/ml juice. How many mls of that 60mg/ml juice do you have? Be careful, it is also absorbed through the skin.
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I have 125ml of 60mg 75%pg/25%vg I would like to mix it all down to36mg . I do wear gloves when handling this. So say I mix this done to 36mg and my friend who just started vaping wanted 12mg would I be able to mix the already mixed down 36mg to 12mg? And one more question If I am gonna do no nic test batches for flavors do I wanna keep the 75/25 ratio or won't that effect the flavor?
Then you would add 62.5ml of PG and 20.8ml of VG for a total of 83.3ml of 75/25 PG/VG to thw 125ml of 60mg, that gives you 208.3ml of 36.01mg nic juice. Yes you can then add more 75/25 PG/VG to make 12mg from 36mg so use a 1:2 ratio, 1 part 36mg and 2 parts 75/25 PG/VG.
So if you wanted 30ml of 12mg add 10ml of 36mg + 20ml of 75/25 PG/VG.
Dont forget to factor in flavoring, that will lower your mg by aroung 2.5-5mg depending on if you use 10 or 20% flavoring.
Hope this helps
Dan
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