help in ejuice

[HardToDie]

Hi all,

I am new to these and would like to start making some e juice.
I am in singapore which ban vaping.
So i am making some e juice for aelf consumption. Would like to know how i canke make some juice with items unavailable to me easily.
I got my pg vg. Can i use baking flavours?
And if i need to add sweetener?

Thanks a lot.

 

[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum @HardToDie. Glad to have you here!

I'm in the USA but I've read that you can get PG, VG & Menthol Crystals at Singapore Soap. I've also read that Lorann and some TFA (great flavoring company) flavorings are available locally.

• Lorann - Bake King
• Redman - Phoon Huat

Here is a link to a thread on Lorann: LorAnn Flavors- COLOR CODED Complete Ingredients List.
Not all of their flavoring are safe to vape with (the same goes for Redman). Any flavoring with oil is not safe.

However, if you get into DIY in a serious way you will most likely choose to import your flavorings as there is not a lot a good concentrated DIY flavorings available locally (that I have read about).

Since flavorings are used in food/baking they can be imported (unlike other vape related hardware/e-liquid).
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For all things DIY head on over to the DIY ELiquid Forum. Lots of great info in all the "stickies". Below is the information I often give to members new to DIY.

• Dannyv45's blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice. => dannyv45 - Blogs
• Hoosier's blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives. =>Hoosier - Blogs
• For a juice mixing calculator consider using eJuiceMeUp

Here are some threads you may like to read through for different flavoring companies. Many of the posts include recipes and comments about a specific flavor.

• Flavor Arts (FA) - Flavour Art Thread & HIC's "My notes on"
  
• The Flavor Apprentice (TFA) - The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread => Also see Bill's Magic Vapor's Blog & TFA Flavor % Recommendations
• Inawera (IW) - Inawera - a few reviews
• Capella (CAP) - DIY Capella's Recipe Thread v2.0 & List of Capella Flavor %'s
• Hangsen (HS) - The Hangsen Thread
• Flavor West (FW) - Flavor West DIY flavor review

DIY Recipe Sites & Misc Links

• E-Liquid Recipes <= Feel free to post your recipes here for all members to enjoy and comment on.
• TPA/TFA Recipes only! <= ECF Thread
• FlavourArt.uk Recipes
  
• Le DIY Pour Les Nuls - Great French site (in English)
• Reddit Recipes - Read the Sidebar
• EcigExpress Archive Cookbook
• EcigVape
• UK E-Liquid Recipes
• kritikalmass - E-Liquid Recipes
• One Stop DIY Shop - Recipes

 

[HardToDie]

Yeah i just went to phoon huat. Thanks for the prompt reply.
So i just buy a flavour without oil. Add all together and shake and steep. Something like this right?
And yes i bought pg and vg from singaporesoap. Now all that is left is the sweetener.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

@Susan~S Awesome assistance! Pretty much all the OP needs to know, right there!
@HardToDie Sweetener should be easy for you. Some use artificial sweeteners like Stevia which can be gotten at most grocery stores. You can also make your own Ethyl Maltol by dissolving Ethyl maltol crystals in PG. It is a carmelized sugar/cotton candy type sweetener that is nice to soften harsh or sharp flavors. Lots of info in the links Susan~S provided.

The Ejuicemeup link she gives above, is software that is not only excellent for mixing, but includes a pretty vast number of good recipes. Good luck!

 

[Susan~S]

So i just buy a flavour without oil. Add all together and shake and steep. Something like this right?

Basically, yes, although you may find you need to add other flavors to a single flavor to make it taste good (i.e. adding cream/marshmellow to fruit).

Also check out this forum: SG Vapers. Make sure you read all the "stickies" as there are special rules you must follow when posting (in the SG forum) due to the sensitivity of vaping in SG.

You won't be able to ask where to buy hardware/juice in SG as your government monitors/reads ECF forum posts. It's all explained here => Newbies Q&A Thread. [PLEASE READ]

There are some DIY threads there (check the first couple of pages). You may find more info on Redman flavorings in those threads.

For any other flavoring company, the DIY E-Liquid Forum is the place to go to ask questions and get information.

 

[HardToDie]

Thanks a lot will go read on it.

 

[Treborsmug]

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[HardToDie]

Hi all, i made my first ejuice. Started with a simple green apple menthol flavor.
I got the flavoring the menthol but the taste dun last like normal ejuice. And its not sweet at all. What cani do to make it sweet?
Oh and thanks treborsmug, from what u post i just doak what i need in glycerin right and used it as falvoring?

 

[HardToDie]

@LouisLeBeau i try to find the maltol thing but to no avail.
@Susan~S
I personally dun really like creamy tuffs haha. So a normal grape or apple will do. But i would really love to make it sweet.
I went to supermarkets bakery shops but i cant find any liquid sweetener. Btw stevia is someone like banned here too.*sigh...
I only found glucose which is think like honey just transparent.
Maltose which i dun think any website mentioned b4.
Any ideas?

 

[Susan~S]

i try to find the maltol thing but to no avail.

Found it for you. Looks like a great place to get TFA (The Flavour Apprentice) flavoring.

Check to make sure they are in SG (I found the link in the SG Forum). If not, you still should be able to order as flavorings are used in food/baking.

http://kampongshop.com/flavours-for-DIY/TPA-flavours/TPA-candy-sweets/cotton-candy

 

[Alien Traveler]

As a sweetener you can use pure sucralose (but not grocery sweeteners like Splenda, where sucralose is mixed with dextrose/glucose). If you buy flavors at grocery, check labels for sugar or fructose - they will gunk coils in no time.

 

[macis]

Found it for you. Looks like a great place to get TFA (The Flavour Apprentice) flavoring.

Check to make sure they are in SG (I found the link in the SG Forum). If not, you still should be able to order as flavorings are used in food/baking.

http://kampongshop.com/flavours-for-DIY/TPA-flavours/TPA-candy-sweets/cotton-candy

i have been reading up threads about diy n didn't realised u have to includes sweetener. if i were to use flavours such as Lorann, TPA, or Capella, do i still need sweetener?

 

[HardToDie]

Thanks @Susan~S . You r a life saver.

 

[macis]

@HardToDie i am from sg too, u can also get cappella flavour here: Premium imported flavor concentrates Singapore

 

[HardToDie]

@macis hi, these are ready made or just flavor?

 

[HardToDie]

@Susan~S hi sorry to bother you again. Another noob qns. I read the sg forum. Quite a lot of people bought the same flavor as me and the add in their sweetener. But there was a qns brought up by someone. Since our redman flavor is pg, does we not add anymore pg to it. Meaning
50%vg
50%flavor
Or
50%vg
40%pg
10%flavored pg

They didnt ans this qns.

 

[macis]

@macis hi, these are ready made or just flavor?

just flavour.

 

[Susan~S]

i have been reading up threads about diy n didn't realised u have to includes sweetener. if i were to use flavours such as Lorann, TPA, or Capella, do i still need sweetener?

Yes. If your recipe does not include a flavoring that is naturally sweet you will need to add sweetner. The benefit to using TPA/TFA, Capella, Flavor West, is they are more concentrated than Redman and it is easier to find recipes you can try mixing.

I always add some other flavoring to my fruits. Some vanillas and creams help round out the flavor profile. Marshmallow is also a good one, adds sweetness and a thicker feel to a vape.

@Susan~S hi sorry to bother you again. Another noob qns. I read the sg forum. Quite a lot of people bought the same flavor as me and the add in their sweetener. But there was a qns brought up by someone. Since our redman flavor is pg, does we not add anymore pg to it. Meaning
50%vg
50%flavor
Or
50%vg
40%pg
10%flavored pg

They didnt ans this qns.

If you are using 10% flavoring in your mix and want a final mix of 50pg/50vg then you will have to add 40%pg & 50%vg.

If you are adding 50% flavoring in your mix and want a final mix of 50pg/50vg then you will not have to add any PG.

 

[macis]

Yes. If your recipe does not include a flavoring that is naturally sweet you will need to add sweetner. The benefit to using TPA/TFA, Capella, Flavor West, is they are more concentrated than Redman and it is easier to find recipes you can try mixing.

I always add some other flavoring to my fruits. Some vanillas and creams help round out the flavor profile. Marshmallow is also a good one, adds sweetness and a thicker feel to a vape.

If you are using 10% flavoring in your mix and want a final mix of 50pg/50vg then you will have to add 40%pg & 50%vg.

If you are adding 50% flavoring in your mix and want a final mix of 50pg/50vg then you will not have to add any PG.

thank you susan, i'll be getting into diy soon.