Help me get this straight

[Kewzies]

Just a quick question because I still havent had a satisfying success with making DIY ejuice yet and its definitely the flavoring in my DIY eJuices that make it taste weird/chemically/perfume-y. The total flavoring percentage is the the percentage of the whole mix correct?

Suicide Bunny Mothers Milk

Capellas Sweet Strawberry 10%
Capellas Vanilla Custard 2%
Lorann Cheese Cake 5%
Lorann Bavarian Cream 3%
NF Organic Vanilla Cream 3%

For example If I used this recipe above the total flavoring percentage adds up to 23%. Thats means that if I make a 10ml bottle of this recipe 2.3ml of that 10ml would be flavor and the rest of the ml would be my PG/VG/NIC blend?

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

yep

Maurice

 

[Kewzies]

Thanks Maurice for answering my idiotic question.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

You have the math correct, I have no idea if the recipe is good or not though.

Maurice

 

[dannyv45]

That's correct. Total combined flavor is 23% or 2.3ml.

 

[iamthevoice]

Just a quick question because I still havent had a satisfying success with making DIY ejuice yet and its definitely the flavoring in my DIY eJuices that make it taste weird/chemically/perfume-y. The total flavoring percentage is the the percentage of the whole mix correct?

Suicide Bunny Mothers Milk

Capellas Sweet Strawberry 10%
Capellas Vanilla Custard 2%
Lorann Cheese Cake 5%
Lorann Bavarian Cream 3%
NF Organic Vanilla Cream 3%

For example If I used this recipe above the total flavoring percentage adds up to 23%. Thats means that if I make a 10ml bottle of this recipe 2.3ml of that 10ml would be flavor and the rest of the ml would be my PG/VG/NIC blend?

Technically, that is true, but you could also consider it as a total flavoring percentage relative to each flavor in the mix. For example, there is twice as much Capellas Sweet Strawberry as there is Lorann Cheese Cake and there is the same amount of Lorann Bavarian Cream and NF Organic Vanilla Cream. Once you are aware of the proportions to keep the recipe the same, you can change the actual volumes to achieve the level of concentration you would like to achieve: for the same recipe at half strength, you could just halve all of the percentages, to keep the same relative values to each other! Let us know how it tastes when you do make it!

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

^^^^True, you could replace the percentage with parts, mix up as little or as much of just the flavoring as you like and then using the now combined flavors, mix various measures into several testers to determine the best total flavor concentration for your own tastes.

Though then you have to fiddle with the base mix if you have a preference for a certain nic level and PG:VG ratio.

Maurice

 

[Heabob]

Most Strawberry flavorings have that chemical perfume thing going.
I get the same thing with Cherry and Raspberry.
Try reducing the Strawberry to like 1-3%, and work up if you can't taste it.
Add 1-2% Butterscotch to help the Strawberry out (no kidding).
With all that Vanilla & Cream it's gonna take a week to meld properly anyway IMO.

Just got some FA Strawberry that seems to taste more real, but have yet to mix up a batch.

 

[Rat2chat2]

to ecf Kewzies. And welcome to the wonderful world of DIY too. You are correct in your calculations but just what really makes it your own is to try different percentages and find what really makes your taste buds dance. That's what makes it so much fun. Lots of great threads on ecf about DIY. I've gotten so I really enjoy just adding flavors to my unflavored juice. I have been very pleased with the gourmet and super concentrated flavorings from vaping Zone. They cost a bit more but really is more economical because you use so much less in a recipe since they are concentrated. Good luck to you and I hope you just have fun.

 

[Nuggit]

Yep, yes, and oh yea man. All great answers! I love this place! I hear a lot of folks working real hard on fillers and nic, I musta got lucky and got turned on to the apps quickly. I've been able to focus on making recipes and tasting. I suck at math, I can do it, it's just hard. So I use technology. Got e liquid recipe manager. You can set your pg/vg ratio, nic level, and go. It figures all the little bits out so you can work on flavor percentage and ratio to each other. Put in all your ingredient info, and it tells you what it costs. Get the pro version, it's worth it. We saved all that money on smoking!

 

[Boletus]

Most Strawberry flavorings have that chemical perfume thing going.
I get the same thing with Cherry and Raspberry.
Try reducing the Strawberry to like 1-3%, and work up if you can't taste it.
Add 1-2% Butterscotch to help the Strawberry out (no kidding).
With all that Vanilla & Cream it's gonna take a week to meld properly anyway IMO.

Just got some FA Strawberry that seems to taste more real, but have yet to mix up a batch.

Comments like this have convinced me that making e-juice is a science and an art. The science part is about understanding concentrations, measurements, and dispensing techniques, while the art of it is to anticipate the interactions between flavors and have an idea what will happen when they are mixed, and then use that knowledge to create something. Robots can do the science part, but humans must practice the art.

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks Maurice for answering my idiotic question.

Just something to think about.

For those Flavor OEM's, using 23% Total Flavoring is on the Very High End of what Most People would Use.

So if your Mix Tastes Kinda Funky, consider using Less Flavorings vs. More Flavorings.