Help me help my wife switch

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MickeyRat

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A little over a year ago, my wife started chewiing nicotine gum and quit smoking but, she never quit the gum. I decided that I needed to quit too but, I started vaping. She tried my PV but, she said it made her cough. A few months ago she started smoking again. Well now she has a serious case of bronchitus that's threatening to become pneumonia. She's on antibiotics, two different inhalers, prednisone, the doctors are pumping her full of more steriods and insisting on seeing her every other day, and she's still smoking.

I DIY and I can't believe it took me this long to think to mix up some all VG for her. I have a little all VG nic that I got by mistake when I first started and mixed up some all VG RY-4. She tried it coughed and wouldn't try it again. I may try some unflavored to see if that works.

Can anyone think of anything else I can try. I'm really worried about her.
 

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How strong is the nicotine content of the liquid. Perhaps the TH is too strong for your wife? The only other thing i could think of is to try a non-tobacco flavoring if you have any, as those typically tend to be less "chemically" tasting.

Actually, I don't vape tobacco flavors anymore. The RY-4 was from when I did. I have gobs of other flavors. Maybe something not too tart like blueberry or waffle. I went with 18mg. Felt that was a good starting strength. I have to compete with cigarettes here.
 

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My son had the same reaction to vaping when I was trying to get him to switch. He was drawing on the ecig like he did a cigarette and trying to direct inhale into his lung causing coughing fits.

I finally sat him down and told him to slowly draw the vapor into his mouth and then inhale is slowly into his lungs. Once he got the draw down, the coughing stopped and he's been vaping ever since.

Could also be too high of nic for her. Try mixing some 6 or 12mg and see how she does.
 

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Hello to a fellow north carolinian! I don't know what device you used or the voltage when she tried your device but I know that many new people do end up coughing because the vapor and TH is too strong for them right then. Maybe start her out on something weak.. low voltage. Pick up a cheap 510 kit, here's one that includes the batts, charger and cartos for $33. The batts won't last long but it should be enough to start. Maybe you could tempt her with a cute little Pawz Mod and some SR cartos. Or you could bite the bullet and get a nice vv device and set it very low watts. You could get a Provari "for her" and set it very low and if she doesn't take to it.. then you have yourself a Provari! :toast:

As for juice, if you diy, unflavored is nice.. add a bit of vanilla. High PG usually equals TH :ohmy:... High VG equals lots of vapor.:vapor:
 

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You might have tried this already but, a lot of people seem to try inhaling vapor like they do with cigs. Which adds to how harsh it can be for her lungs. A lot of people cough with their first hit but, once they learn how to vape correctly. Then they tell me that it's not as harsh.

Lower nicotine may help until she gets used to vaping and how to inhale it correctly. Then raising the nic level slowly to control the urges and to find her sweet spot. I'm really hoping the best for you two. I know that this situation has brought a lot of stress for you and her. I'm wishing ya'll the best and that she successfully quits smoking in the near future.
 

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I tried her on one of my old eGos with a standard 510. It wasn't my buzz pro cranked up. We talked it over and I think it's her inhaling style. The problem is that now I can't get her to try it again. She says, "I don't feel like coughing right now." To be honest, I suspect she's afraid that she's going to hit it the way she habitually does and she doesn't want to deal with the results. I can't say I blame her. I just want to help.
 

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I can feel how worried you are for her and know how much you want to help her, and I am trying not to be too blunt, but she has got to want to do this. If she doesn't really want to do it doesn't matter what you offer her. I went through that with my husband. Nothing worked until he decided he really wanted it to work. I am sorry if this isn't what you want to hear. I truly do hope both you and your wife find what works if she wants it to.
 

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Please tell her not to give up. Tell here there are supporters here for her, and we'll be there to help her find what works best for her. Hopefully, she will want to move forward with this. Mattiem is right, she has to want to try our alternative to smoking.

If she's hurting right now with ailments, any inhaling is probably discouraging to her at the moment, but if she can go slow on the draw, she'll get there. A sweeter flavor with more VG may be the answer, even at a higher strength so the throat hit is lessened. Do not go the route of the mint or menthol flavors to start, even at lower nicotine levels they seem to give me the hit and it sounds like she probably doesn't want that right now. Something smooth like vanilla may be what she needs, if the flavorless doesn't work.

Tell her to hang in there and pass on hugs from us, regardless of what she decides.
 

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I can feel how worried you are for her and know how much you want to help her, and I am trying not to be too blunt, but she has got to want to do this. If she doesn't really want to do it doesn't matter what you offer her. I went through that with my husband. Nothing worked until he decided he really wanted it to work. I am sorry if this isn't what you want to hear. I truly do hope both you and your wife find what works if she wants it to.

I agree a person has got to want to do it . It may take time finding what nic level to use and what pg/vg level to use . Some of the time first thing in the morning my first vape of the day may hurt my throat a bit but after a couple of vapes that stops . So I think that if the person is commited to doing it and will try different things until you find what works for them then you have a chance of converting them . Start with low nic and maybe a 70/30 vg/pg and adjust from there .
 

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Given the trouble I had with nic levels when I started, I'm fully aware that it takes desire and persistence. I'm also aware that I might just be playing whack-a-mole with excuses. I have to try though. She's soooo sick.

I know how painful this is for both you and your wife. I wish I lived closer to you. I wish there was something I could do to help. All I can do is pray that she gets to feeling better soon. Hang in there and just give her all the support you can. Let her know that there are people everywhere pulling for her.
 

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Given the trouble I had with nic levels when I started, I'm fully aware that it takes desire and persistence. I'm also aware that I might just be playing whack-a-mole with excuses. I have to try though. She's soooo sick.

I feel for you.

I would think of a Flavor she mght like and then try some Omg flavors. Show her how to take a Slow draw.

And Tell her she doesn't need to give up analogs Completely, just try using the e-Cig to cut back.

Hang in there.
 

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Given the trouble I had with nic levels when I started, I'm fully aware that it takes desire and persistence. I'm also aware that I might just be playing whack-a-mole with excuses. I have to try though. She's soooo sick.

Maybe you should just try to ease the idea of vaping to her again. Just emphasize the importance of quitting at this time. Also, that this switch would be beneficial to the both of you in the long run. There are only things that you can tell her that nobody else can.....if you stay persistent then I'm sure she'll switch eventually.
 

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It's awesome that you are so concerned for her. Going back to smokes is definitely moving in the wrong direction. She should probably ride out the bronchitis first before she does anything. After that, it sounds like it's her technique. I coughed my head off the first time I vaped because I inhaled the way I smoked. After a few vids on YT, I figured it out. Slowly draw the vapor into the mouth, then inhale slow into the lungs. Voila! Encourage her for her health's sake and don't be pushy, and she'll come to it on her own terms. Good luck!
 

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Good Luck at the doc's! I've recently been showing my pv off and one of my friends takes a big hit and coughs his brains out... It was so bad, he refuses to try it anymore... Another person said she was getting hives from it... Just because I love it, doesn't mean that everyone else will also...

In you wife's case, maybe the gum would work while she is ill. Sounds like anything but analogs is what she should be using...
 
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