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BurninShanty

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Ok so I am thinking of buying a Prometheus clone because it looks like something simple enough I can figure out for my first build ever. As of now I have prometheus and a drip tip picked out. I just need to know what is a good mechanical mod for this rba? What other components should I get to complete this build? How many parts come together? How do I charge it? What kind of battery?:confused:

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sorry for being lost I have only vaped a simple eGo for a year now...ready to step up to "real" vape experience
 

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If you want to roll with a mech mod, it's anything but simple. Not to say it's rocket science, but there is a short, steep learning curve at first if you want to be safe. You'll have to familiarize yourself with ohm's law, the properties of your batteries and learn to use a resistance meter when you build on your atomizers.

If you want simplicity, why go mechanical? Get a regulated box mod like the sigelei 100w + for your rebuildables and learn to rebuild first. Maybe then add a mech once your building skills and understanding of resistance are solid.

You're going to need to get some rechargable, high-drain, high-amp 18650 batteries and a charger either way I suppose.
 

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Hi BurninShanty and welcome aboard!

I agree with what v1k1ng1001 said above about getting a high-wattage regulated device. The learning curve is MUCH simpler and you don't have nearly as much safety issues to worry about while learning to build coils.

You can also get the same or perhaps even better vapor production out of a regulated, high-wattage device as you can with a mech mod. The following thread is an interesting read on the subject:
My thoughts about sub-ohm and latest VV/VW devices...

Hope it helps and Happy Vaping!
 

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Ok so I am thinking of buying a Prometheus clone because it looks like something simple enough I can figure out for my first build ever. As of now I have prometheus and a drip tip picked out. I just need to know what is a good mechanical mod for this RBA? What other components should I get to complete this build? How many parts come together? How do I charge it? What kind of battery?:confused:

Thanks

sorry for being lost I have only vaped a simple eGo for a year now...ready to step up to "real" vape experience

I use mech mods. They're simple, in that there is no wiring, no screens, etc. Since there's no wiring or electronics, if they break, it's simple to fix them. They're likely to survive all manner of things that could kill a regulated mod--long drops onto concrete, drop into a tub lol. That's what appeals to me about them, along with their looks.

In terms of actual use, they're not that simple. Since there is no wiring to break, everything about them is up to you:

Since there is no wiring, the mod itself can't be adjusted. You determine how they hit by coiling the dripper or the tank the way you like. Since there are no safety controls you must make 100% certain that your tank is in working condition, built within the parameters of the battery you're using.

You must use the right batteries. Again, no wiring, so that mod's going to fire till the battery is dead. It's up to you to know your battery, and figure out when it's getting low--you'll feel this, as you'll notice the vape getting weak after a while. You'll need a digital multimeter to measure the battery.

They require occasional cleaning, as the contacts are usually made of metals like copper or brass, which corrode over time. The mod itself will need to be kept clean, too, to work in peak condition.

If you're willing to learn, they're wonderful. I'm totally used to dealing with them now, and find them simple. It feels good to know you're in complete control of your gear (barring acts of god and plane crashes). They come with a learning curve, however.
 

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So first, a "real" vape experience is the experience that keeps you off of the analogs. There are "battles" fought daily here on the merits of eGo/variable/Low wattage/non-rebuildable vaping vs high wattage mechanical vs regulated high wattage vs unregulated high wattage, etc...

Before you change how you vape I would caution you to figure out what you want from vaping. Is your eGo keeping you off of the "realsies" or do you need a more robust NIC delivery system? Are you looking for something low maintenance? Do you want to impress the ladies with clouds of epik proportions?

There are literally* thousands of reasons to stay where you're at and/or move onto something different. I don't care how you vape, as long as you understand and accept the risks with some of the higher power devices, and I don't care why you vape. BUT, I think it's important YOU know why you want to change your "style". (<--- Hope that doesn't sound wrong. I DO care that you're happy with your vape.)

Mechs and unregulated devices are not for everyone. You must understand battery safety; ohm's law; how power and resistance change your coil heating; how coil heating affects your vapor, how different wire & builds affects power & resistance, how RDA/RBA shape affects your vape, etc...
There is much to know, so I don't want to just blithely suggest something that you may not be ready for, or may not want.

Now, having said all that, these boards are THE place to find that information, but help us help you and tell us what "end result" vape it is that you're trying to have. Because that's the one I want you to have.

As it stands, the prometheus is a wonderful little device and works like a champ, but I don't know if I would have wanted to start my foray into rebuilding with any genesis style atomizer. The builds are fiddly and much more complicated than the straight forward ease of most drippers.

What's your draw to the prometheus? Is it something that could be satisfied with something a little simpler?

Good luck. If you're dead-set on the prometheus, let us know.

*figuratively
 

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As it stands, the prometheus is a wonderful little device and works like a champ, but I don't know if I would have wanted to start my foray into rebuilding with any genesis style atomizer. The builds are fiddly and much more complicated than the straight forward ease of most drippers.

What's your draw to the prometheus? Is it something that could be satisfied with something a little simpler?

Good luck. If you're dead-set on the prometheus, let us know.

*figuratively

...another option would be to get a dripper, along with a Prometheus. Most drippers are cheap and easy to build, and the flavor is excellent. It's also good to have more than one tank on hand.
 

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I started on a regulated tube mod and ran that for months before I considered a mech. Just to keep the training wheels on a bit longer, I ran my first mech with a Kick and a fuse for a month or so before I ran unregulated. By that time, I was comfortable enough with Ohms law and building in general (started on a Trident style RDA) that I felt I could go full-on mech without any problems. YMMV of course, but I appreciated the electronics being there to keep from doing something "uninformed" until I had a good grasp of building / battery safety.
 

BurninShanty

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I like the Prometheus because it has a large tank and the wicks do not have to be juiced after a few puffs. I liked that the wicks stayed saturated while the tank is full. After reading about mechanical mods i realize that it is unregulated with little to no safety. I don't think i am ready for that yet. But I do want something for the Prometheus so I am now considering a box mod. Specifically the Kanger K-box 40 watt. Will this give me nice hits for Prometheus? What I desire is stronger richer hit than what I get from the eGO.
 

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Have you considered any other style tanks versus the prometheous? There are other RTA that are so much easier to uild on than that and offer better customization of the vape experience such as a billow or a UD Goblin, these are tanks that have posts for coiling like a dripper but inside a tank glassomiser setup. The Kanger 40 watt box is relatively new and I have no personal experience with it as of yet but as for medium range box mods I have used the Sigelei 50 watt which is nice the IPV mini 70 watt is a solid device and there is the I-Stick 50 watt which is fantastic for the price. Stay away from Cloupor stuff it is junk IMO I had 3 of the 30 watt devices and all of them the displays went to sleep and never woke up again. The KSD N6 60 watt is a good box too. Check some of these out before you commit to any one tank or mod.
 

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I like the Prometheus because it has a large tank and the wicks do not have to be juiced after a few puffs. I liked that the wicks stayed saturated while the tank is full. After reading about mechanical mods i realize that it is unregulated with little to no safety. I don't think i am ready for that yet. But I do want something for the Prometheus so I am now considering a box mod. Specifically the Kanger K-box 40 watt. Will this give me nice hits for Prometheus? What I desire is stronger richer hit than what I get from the eGO.

Anyone here have experience with the Kbox? I do not, but it seems to generally have good reviews. Here is some extra reading on the prometheus and/or other genny's:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eus-clone-review-disappointing-difficult.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/genesis/644792-prometheus-dry-hits-what-am-i-doing-wrong.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-systems/624479-first-successful-build.html
 

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I like the Prometheus because it has a large tank and the wicks do not have to be juiced after a few puffs. I liked that the wicks stayed saturated while the tank is full.

It's only RDA's (and not even all of those) that have to be juiced after a few puffs.

RTA's all have wicks that are feed by the tank. And with the tank above the coils, the wicks stay saturated even when the tank isn't full. They come in all sizes, some even hold 5+ mls of juice.
 
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BurninShanty

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So I have decided on a Kanger Kbox 40 Watt regulated with a kanger sub tank mini. I plan on building some coils when it arrives in the mail see what I prefer, dual, single, or the Kanger coils u can use instead of building. I am just gonna expand my horizons see how I like it. I have a great vape shop/lounge close to me and we discussed mechanical mod builds for a long time. Based on what I have learned and what technology is out there, building mechs are pretty darn easy. I will wait a while and eventually I will build my own mech. For anyone that's interested I got the kbox, subtank mini, 18650 battery, battery charger, and kanger coil pack all for 77.00 free shipping!!!
 

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I have the subtank mini as my all day vape rig the RBA section has a tighter airflow than the stock coils but the flavor is excellent and the vapor is thick. I have a 28 gauge nichrome 6 wrap parallel coil @ 0.50 ohms wicked with Japanese sheet cotton running at 24.5 watts on my sigelei 150 box and it is warm dense vapor. Not the hugest clouds but completely satisfying for my ADV setup and my batteries last 2 days at these settings. I start dripping an RDA and batteries might make it 8 hours if I'm conservative on the power setting.
 
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