Help! Mod batteries keep dying after half an hour

[WarrenF]

Hi All, I bought an Innokin itaste SVD and am powering it with AW IMR 183560s but the batteries keep going on me after half an hour - hour max. Yellow light on my itaste then quickly goes to red....

At first I thought the batteries must be faulty so went back to the seller (E-Cig UK) and they swapped the batteries. The problem continued so I then thought that the charger (Intellicharger i2) must be at fault so I got them to swap that too .... but I am still getting really this fast battery drain.

Can it be the mod unit itself or is there something I am overlooking?? This has been driving me crazy!

The batteries are definitley low because the intellicharger gives them 1 yellow light too -so its not just the mod signalling low power. They then fully recharge within about an hour.

The mod is genuine (ID numbers tally at Innokin website) but the seller was ebay and unfortunately not a Vape specialist and she doesnt have any itaste SVDs on her site at the moment so I havent gone back to her yet -and I dont want to go back to E-Cig UK again to ask for ... what ... more batteries???
Thought I'd try here hoping for advice. I haven't seen this problem written about on any forum. Help!

 

[K_Tech]

If those are indeed genuine AW batteries, you should certainly be getting far more than a half hour of vaping out of them.

Are you noticing the mod getting warm/hot while vaping? The only thing I can think of (besides wonky batteries) is perhaps an internal short that's prematurely draining your batteries.

 

[SunshinePete]

An 18350 doesn't pack a lot of punch, although half an hour seems too short a time. Is it possible for you to check the fully charged voltage? Should be 4.2V.

 

[maxd]

what voltage or wattage do you have?

 

[carrielsal]

What kind of atomizer are you using? If you're using pre-built coils, it sounds like it could be a problem with the mod draining the batteries.

 

[Mutescream]

Aside from being unclear on if it is an 18650 or an 18350... We never hear about the tank topping it. I run an 18500 sometimes in my svd, and I get a day to day and a half out of it. The rest of the time I stack 18350's, and get almost 2 days out of it.

 

[wheelie]

I go threw 2 or 3 -18650's per day in my SVD. Maybe get 4 to 5 hours per 18650. Run mine on 9.5 with a 1.6 ohms coil. I bet I would go threw 350's in less than an hour. Get a 18650 vape for hours not minutes. I won't even look at a mod that does not hold a 18650. CHEERS!

Even a MVP2 does not last a whole day for me. Vape likely 5-7ML of juice a day.

 

[SunshinePete]

I go threw 2 or 3 -18650's per day in my SVD. Maybe get 4 to 5 hours per 18650. Run mine on 9.5 with a 1.6 ohms coil. I bet I would go threw 350's in less than an hour. Get a 18650 vape for hours not minutes. I won't even look at a mod that does not hold a 18650. CHEERS!

You're a battery basher like me! Precisely why I steered clear of the MVP, I like the facility to stuff a spare battery in.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

I suppose if you chain vape like a boss, yeah your going to kill a bunch of batteries in any device.

We just don't have enough info to really help you figure this out.

Maurice

 

[Baditude]

My first thoughts are these authentic AW IMR batteries? There are a lot of counterfeit batteries on the market, and even some reputable vendors can get fooled by their suppliers. Genuine AW's will always be button-top red batteries with a halogram silver sticker like this:



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/568840-sure-your-aw-batteries-genuine-how-tell.html

I use genuine AW 18350 IMR's in my Mini Provari. I get 5-6 hours with a factory made 2.5 ohm cartotank and about 4 hours with my Kayfun rebuildable tank at 1.3 ohms.

If the batteries check out as authentic, then by process of elimination it is either your charger or your mod.

 

[twgbonehead]

It's possible that there is a problem with the SVD, and it's draining the battery.

I know this experiment is a bit of a pain, but perhaps worth a try:

Whenever you stop vaping, take the batteries out (or just take off the battery cap).

If you find that the batts last a lot longer, there's something off with your SVD causing it to drain the batts even when you're not using it.

 

[carrielsal]

My first thoughts are these authentic AW IMR batteries? There are a lot of counterfeit batteries on the market, and even some reputable vendors can get fooled by their suppliers. Genuine AW's will always be button-top red batteries with a halogram silver sticker like this:

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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/568840-sure-your-aw-batteries-genuine-how-tell.html

I use genuine AW 18350 IMR's in my Mini Provari. I get 5-6 hours with a factory made 2.5 ohm cartotank and about 4 hours with my Kayfun rebuildable tank at 1.3 ohms.

If the batteries check out as authentic, then by process of elimination it is either your charger or your mod.

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that thread. I've been buying my batteries through coops just to be sure I know what I am getting.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that thread. I've been buying my batteries through coops just to be sure I know what I am getting.

Counterfeit batteries are usually re-wrapped rejects of the better battery manufacturers or worse, re-wrapped used batteries harvested from old laptop computers. These are purchased by disreputable suppliers for cheap ($1 each) and re-wrapped and sold as new batteries for around $9 for quite a profit margin. Try to purchase from reputable vendors who can usually verify the chain source back to the manufacturer, ie RTD Vapor, Illumination Supply, Provape, AW Batteries - Authorised Dealers

 

[Mutescream]

Op, what resistance are you running?

 

[WarrenF]

Thanks for ALL your thoughts. Look like we have two possible Guilty Parties.

But gto kick-off, for maxd and carrielsal & Mutescream, missing specs are atty & heat - I'm on an iClear30s at 8-8.5 watts. Nothing massive ..…and the supplier looks really professional to me (UK ECIG STORE) so I am pretty confident the AW IMR batteries (tried out 4, one at a time) and intellichargers have been genuine.

So it looks like it could be the mod (K_Tech,carrielsal, Maurice & twgbonehead are suspecting that the mod can drain batts by shorting/draining somehow) ….haven't noticed the mod warm up, K_Tech. I really like twgbonehead's idea of disconnecting the body to see if it's pulling on the batt when not firing. Will do that. Thing is, I only use the mod + iclear 30s when I'm on a drinking 'n vaping session, and thats twice a week these days, so I'll be posting a mid-week report on that after my next hang-over.

(For the rest of the time I take the odd drag now and again on the e-go with an evod 2 just to keep off the cigarettes.)

The other possibility is that during my drink 'n vape sessions, I am a Battery-Abusing Vape Monster.

Thanks for all of you giving running time info, and this is sort of what I've read elsewhere…. People can give very different timings. Mutescream & Baditude get a good load of hours. wheelie & sunshine pete do not! They are I guess, "chaining it like a boss" as Maurice says : ) and draining in under an hour. So its 3 - 2 so far on whether the 18350 can even take the pace.

So this is the thing - am I wasting time and effort trying to get the ebay seller to replace a draining/shorting mod if in fact it is ME expecting too much of a 350 !

Don't know if I am a vape monster as I haven't seen anyone else on a mod. I think I do go quite hard, using it like a pipe more than a cigarette, circular breathing, 2 or 3 deep inhales at a time, out my nose dragon-style as its still going in then a mouth exhale finale. YEAH I'm in heaven here! Then the **** battery goes!! ...after half an hour …..

BUT - a big thing which makes me think I'm NOT GUILTY is the fact that I started vaping on an e-go twist (and have needed it to rescue me every damn night since buying the itaste SVD) and I get about 4 hours out of that at 4/4.2 volts on the same iClear30S tank & 2.2ohm atomiser.

So uum… still not quite sure here if its me or mod doing the fast draining. I'll report back mid-week after the itaste's next workout when I'll be checking it for heating up and doing the battery disconnect when I'm not hitting it. Thanks guys!!!

 

[mikek1]

Do you have a multimeter or something you can check the voltage of the batteries? I wonder what the voltage is when you take it out of the svd.

If you're running a 2.2 coil, have you tried turning the watts down to 5-6? You should still get a good vape and maybe increase batt life a bit. Although I think you might be chain vaping and not really realizing how much you're draining the battery AW 18350's are rated at 700mah which isn't much at all especially when you compare it to 2600mah on a 18650. Maybe try counting how many of those deep puffs you are actually taking in that half hour.

Also have you tried a different tank/coil?

 

[Bunnykiller]

you can use the SVD to check battery voltage, ohms, and set the watts....

 

[realsis]

I would use a multimeter to check the voltage of my batteries. To make sure they are where they are supposed to be. Then I'd try matter of eliminating different causes. Try different coils, different atomizers, you might also want to try a different brand of battery. If the issue continued with the different brand of battery, it's likely a problem with the unit. Depending on the return policy that the seller stated before you bought the device you might be able to open a case and get your money back. But if the seller stated no returns or "as is" I doubt there is anything you can do. However if the item was LISTED as in good working condition, and it's obviously not, you should be able to open a case with ebay itself. They have that safe buying policy. They have the policy in place so people don't get ripped off. You better open the case quickly because I believe their is a time frame in which you can do so. Simply explain to ebay the item is not in good working order. I honestly think this is what you need to do. Then put the money you get returned to you toward a good working mod from a reputable seller or shop. If it's draining your batteries so quickly the unit itself might not be very safe. I would quit fooling with it and work on getting my money reimbursement. I really hope this helps. Enough is enough. You already gone through two different sets of batteries with the same result. Through the process of eliminations it looks like the device is faulty. See if you can get a refund through eBay itself. You will likely have to open a case like I mentioned earlier. I am sorry your device is defective. I hope this advice helps some. Best wishes and let us know what you decide to do.

 

[WarrenF]

Thanks for that Bunnykiller. Looked it up in manual and yes, pressing the + or - button displays voltage. Fully recharged battery reads 4.2V so that question is answered. I can't believe there is a both a read-out and a drainage issue with the itaste SVD (they get great reviews ...?)
OK - next step is to vape the battery down, physically disconnecting it from the mod between hits. I'll do this in one go when I'm next on for a good vape session - tomorrow eve is quite possible!

 

[WarrenF]

Thanks for that, Mikek1 - I have tried lower wattages but my liquid vapes best around 8 - a bit weak below that for whatever reason ...
I am vaping hard on it for sure - I must watch myself when I'm on a roll next time. Perhaps I do turn into a monster
Today I'm on a day-off (just light bursts with evod/e-go now and again).
I have put the evod 2 onto the mod - same drain problem.
18650s sound like great performance for something just twice the size - but it's just too big for a night out in a bar. I get too many people gawping at me with the small mod! I'm happy when smokers ask me about it and I get them to think about moving onto vaping but its the non-smokers who can be trouble.