HELP! Only certain brands of PG bother me??

[aintdunn]

[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]I usually vape AVE juices, like Bobas Bounty, Gorilla juice and Christies Cappacino...all of which are PG free


Not knowing PG bothered me (throat gets dry, scratchy, restricted around adams apple) I ordered a huge variety of 50/50 juices from Vape Dudes, like Blue Honey, Buttery Nipple, and Mocha Java Drizzle. Well, 6 for 6 of the 50/50 juices tore my throat up. Nothing against Vape Dudes. The flavors are simply incredible.


But here is the freakin weird thing. I started vaping some Bounty Hunter by NLV that a friend of mine had, without even checking the pg/vg ratio and then dreaded the worst when I saw that the bottle listed it as 65% PG.


BUT IT NEVER BOTHERED ME!?


I've burnt through almost an entire 30ml bottle of Bounty Hunter with that high PG content in the last month without it causing any throat irritation......yet once in a while I will get frisky and tempt fate with one of my Vape Dude 50/50s and I almost immediatly get hit with the side effects.


Im confused and slightly angry that my throat has "selective pg rejection" ???? HELP GUYS!!!!!!!

Oh, all the juices mentioned are either 18 or 24mg of nicotine. mix and match[/FONT]

 

[jSquared]

PG is harsh on your throat - that's why people often say that juices with a higher PG ratio have a "better" throat hit. When you say "the side effects", it sounds as though you are really just talking about a sore throat as opposed to the myriad of other reactions that some people experience when they have an actual PG sensitivity. I used to get a dry, sore throat when I first started vaping (using 70/30 juices) - it just took my body a while to get used to the PG. Perhaps you need to persist with the 50/50 juices for long enough for your body to "acclimatize". Of course, if you experience any other of the other known side effects of PG sensitivity you should probably stop vaping PG altogether.

I think PG gets a bad rep because of the reports of allergies etc here on the forum, and people often convince themselves that they too will have some kind of reaction to it without having actually tried it. The truth is that many of us vape juices with a high PG content all day every day without any problems at all.

JJ

 

[ilovehugehits]

I have the same issue with some juices with PG.
I prefer all VG & distileed water liquids.
But some vendors like Halo, make superior blend flavors. I found that PG blends from newer suppliers seem to bother me.
Johnson Creek has always been my go to supplier. That will obviously continue.

 

[Hoosier]

It could be different brands of PG. I would be more likely to suspect nicotine extracted by different methods myself. There are some other components that could actually be responsible, but it would be tough to say.

Luckily, you now know about your issue and can moderate your first orders of different vendors so you don't end up with a large batch of juice that graps your throat in the wrong way.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

If you haven't, let those vapedudes juices steep *breathe* (cap off shaken a couple times a day) for a week then tryem again.

I've had juices from several vendors that were abnormally strong on the throat until they steep.

 

[Hoosier]

As an aside:

Steep is with cap on.

Breathe is with cap off.

They do two different things to juice and could be useful tools to know about. Be a darn shame for another vaper to get the two confused...

 

[AttyPops]

Also, you may not be sure yet if it's the PG or some other additive from that vendor (like TH modifier, sweetner, etc). Are you?

I KNOW that all VG is not created equal (lots of veggie sources). But PG...should be a standard molecule. That said, probably isn't. Sigh.

Unless you know their recipe, IDK how you can tell. More testing, I guess.

 

[aintdunn]

As an aside:

Steep is with cap on.

Breathe is with cap off.



They do two different things to juice and could be useful tools to know about. Be a darn shame for another vaper to get the two confused...

?? I have never heard of there being different changes happening between the cap being on vs off ??

Any details?

 

[ilovehugehits]

I open my juice to let them breathe.
Put the cap back on. Shake it up.
Put it away in my storage bag.
Repeat this the following day & vape.
That's what works for me.
Complex VG tobacco juices, usually need a longer steep. Halo juices are perfect out the box.

 

[Hoosier]

?? I have never heard of there being different changes happening between the cap being on vs off ??

Any details?

Steeping is allowing entropy to happen. Maximum dispersion of all components and any reaction between flavorings and base components has time to happen in the viscous liquid. Cap on away from sunlight=steep.

Breathe is allowing evaporation of alcohol carriers and/or volatile flavor notes. It also allows more nicotine and sometimes flavorings to oxidize which helps add a bitter backnote. Airing-out or Breathe = cap off.

Two different and handy things. I find most juices don't need either, but some find most need either a steep or a breathe. Most of my tobacco recipes need to steep and I have one that is nasty when fresh and needs a week of steep to get good, but is great after 2 weeks is steeping. I only have one recipe that needs to Breathe, but it really makes a difference.

I know the two are often confused here on ECF and those of us who know they are two different things have never been able to keep up with the spreading of the confusion. (But I try whenever I see it, but most of the time I'm in the DIY sub)

If you've always set your juice aside with one method, try the other with your next batch and see if there is a difference. It may not make any difference or it might make a huge difference. Every mix and sense of taste is different so the only way to tell is to try it.