Help Please! Boge Cartos Making Me Ill!

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Bugsy

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Hi,

I'm getting all-Boged out and ill with Boge cartos! I usually order my cartos in bulk and I have a large stock of cartos, all Boge. Each new carto I use is awful and DANGEROUS!, filling my lungs with noxious vapours and making my chest so bad I have contracted viral bronchitis. I can't use the carto from new. A disgusting taste comes into my mouth and my lungs feel like they are exploding. I didn't realise that Boge were going downhill until I just logged on again here after a long absence from reading posts. I have been perservering with these horrid cartos for some time hoping the experience would change but to no avail. I'm almost sure it is the cartos as I've tried to make sure the battery, vaping unit and liquid are all pukka. I'm going to chuck these cartos and lose my money, shame, but I am desperate to get some working cartos as I'm not getting my nicotine fix and I am getting withdrawals. I've been about six years analog free and I'm desperate also not to go back to analogs. I need suggestions for UK suppliers of suggested alternative cartos mentioned on here ( Smoktech, Kanger, or IKenVape cartos ). Any help appreciated! Also any comments on the horrid Boge cartos?!!

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Greg.
 

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Wow. Never heard of a carto itself making someone sick. I can't speak for Boges as I use smok cartos exclusively. But maybe you're having a reaction to polyfill? Either that or you just don't prefer polyfill. Perhaps you can actually taste it. I'm so thankful I cannot taste polyfill. I can taste silica in other tank/atomizer devices, but not the material in cartos. Hm. Maybe try to switch up your usual brand? Try a Smok instead of a Boge.
 

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That is very strange. I wonder if you could meet up with another carto user and have them try out one of your boges that seems to be weird? Maybe they could figure out if it's something you are missing, or if they are indeed bad cartos.

I used boges, and even through boge-gate I didn't have any problems. I'm on to other juice delivery systems now, mainly for the convenience factor, but I've still got a bunch of cartos in my apocalypse box.
 

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I would think Viral Bronchitis is by definition caused by a virus.

That was my first reaction as well. But on further thought, I could see how lung irritation could make one more susceptible to picking up a virus.

From what I've read, there was a very large QC problem with Boge, I think it was a year ago. I didn't have any trouble with the ones I tried, but I ended up liking the Smoktech ones a little better anyway.
 

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Hi Spzamelda,

That's a great suggestion! Anyone near Nottingham who I can meet up with to test my stuff? I'm basically a bit lost as to what the problem could really be even though I have tried very hard to isolate the problem. I do not want to cast a slur on Boge cartos and I will recant profusely if needed and proved otherwise, but I very much suspect my Boge cartos are the problem. The stock I have were fairly recently purchased from a reputable UK seller and so the cartos are presumably not that old.

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Are there any vape shops in Nottingham? You could maybe get some suggestions for a good shop, and swing by there for help. Maybe buy a bottle of juice or two to get them in the mood to help you with products you didn't buy from them. You might also be able to sample some other juice delivery devices and find something that suits you better than cartos.
 

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Just a few other questions... Are you sure they are full enough and the filler isn't burning. Sorry if that's insulting to you. You are probably experienced enough to know if your cartos are saturated, but I do know that burnt carto filler is very nasty and harsh to me. Are you using a tank at all or just filling the cartos by dripping as they need filled.

What battery are you using? Is it variable voltage? If so, what is it set on, and are you sure the voltage is regulating properly? I know you said you checked the battery, but you didn't really say how you checked the battery. With this I'm wondering if there is some setting or malfunction in the battery that is heating up the coils too much.
 

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Hi,
Thanks so far for the help and suggestions. I am an experienced vaporist ( I think! ) and I progressed to my current configuration of a Lavatube/Sigeili, bulk juice from Health Cabin in China and 510 cartos, punched and used in a stainless steel tank. I currently use both a Lavatube and a Sigelei VV device. My batteries are the recommended for my devices and I discard them for new ones regularly when I feel they need replacing. I use my Sigeili VV device set at 9 and I use my Lavatube set at 4.5-6 usually. My vaping experience has been adequate but not sensational but enough to keep me of the analogs. I recently bought a batch of 510 cartos from a reputable UK seller at quite good prices; this is when the problems started. I complained to the supplier when I had the problems but they responded by saying they literally sold thousands of the 510 cartos with no problems reported from other users. I perservered with the cartos, caught a viral chest infection and the effect of the cartos I was using exacerbated the condition terribly, making it much worse. I am recovering from the viral chest infection but the continued use of these cartos are continuing to make me ill - horrible taste in the mouth and a tight chest. I checked out a video on You Tube by Grimmgreen which alerted me to possible problems with the Boge 510 cartos and I became increasingly worried.

Are there UK suppliers of alternative 510 cartos so I can quickly order some to check if the cartos I have are at fault? In the absence of nobody being near me in Nottingham there is no other way I can see of checking what's up or not. Nottingham has vaping outlets but they are mostly geared to selling kits and juice and haven't really diversified into selling vaping seperates, so to speak.

I just spent £20 on nicotine lozenges, a nicotine inhalant and nicotine gum : ( but they are not a patch on vaping device when it is working properly.

I suppose my top question here is to find UK suppliers of reliable cartos, other than Boge, so as I can try them out with my current devices and see if they work. I don't think I can continue successfully on the lozenges, inhalant and gum for too long!

Thanks,

Greg.
 

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Have you maybe some bad mold spores in the air where you vape as its an open system unlike analogs which is a closed and filtered by tobacco system. If your breathing in bad air yeah bad things can happen.. Used old new Boge's are not garbage if you learn how build a cart the internal parts are usable.. I make my own carts they are sublime, I use a disposable and a boge cart to create it and its an amazing cart.. Good tiding and HNY!
 

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Hi Spzamelda,

That's a great suggestion! Anyone near Nottingham who I can meet up with to test my stuff? I'm basically a bit lost as to what the problem could really be even though I have tried very hard to isolate the problem. I do not want to cast a slur on Boge cartos and I will recant profusely if needed and proved otherwise, but I very much suspect my Boge cartos are the problem. The stock I have were fairly recently purchased from a reputable UK seller and so the cartos are presumably not that old.

Greg.

You could try posting in the UK forum

UK Forum
 

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This isn't the first time I have heard of people getting sick from boge carts. I have a feeling the carts you are using are pretty old, whether old as in they have sat there at your home for a long time or old as in they were at the retailers for a long time.

Check your VV to OHM usage, is your wattage to much for your device? are you burning them?

How thick is your juice? What pg/vg ratio you using, it may be getting clogged and burning the liquid.

Try to try another boge carto from another package one more time just to be safe.
 

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Have you maybe some bad mold spores in the air where you vape as its an open system unlike analogs which is a closed and filtered by tobacco system. If your breathing in bad air yeah bad things can happen.. Used old new Boge's are not garbage if you learn how build a cart the internal parts are usable.. I make my own carts they are sublime, I use a disposable and a boge cart to create it and its an amazing cart.. Good tiding and HNY!

Hi,
Wow, can you post me your exact tecniques? I'd love to try and achieve the wonderful experience you have with your vaping/cartos.


You could try posting in the UK forum

UK Forum

Lol, I thought this was an international forum including the Uk! I'll have a go then on the UK forum as suggested and I will research all other suggestions given and get back to the forum with my findings. I'll seriously investigate UK suppliers of alternatives to the Boge delivery system.

Thanks, till later,

Greg.
 

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I'm not sure of any vendors in the UK (I'm from the States!) but one thing I want to say too is that you may want to stay off the Chinese juice for a bit too - you do hear of bad things concerning Chinese juice every now and then. Just like you, I got a throat infection from a cartomizer-based disposable e-cig, and mine was entirely built and juiced in China, so to this day, I was never sure if it was the juice or carto. You may just have to build up the funds to go to a local vape shop and invest in whatever kit may at least work in the meantime for you - I've had to make do with buying disposables from gas stations because all my tanks tend to taste like silica and trigger asthma and coughs depending on how long I test with them, or based on how severe the taste is.
 

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Hi,
Wow, can you post me your exact tecniques? I'd love to try and achieve the wonderful experience you have with your vaping/cartos.




Lol, I thought this was an international forum including the Uk! I'll have a go then on the UK forum as suggested and I will research all other suggestions given and get back to the forum with my findings. I'll seriously investigate UK suppliers of alternatives to the Boge delivery system.

Thanks, till later,

Greg.

This is an international forum, but there's a sub forum specifically for Vapers in the UK.
 

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Hi,
Wow, can you post me your exact tecniques? I'd love to try and achieve the wonderful experience you have with your vaping/cartos.




Lol, I thought this was an international forum including the Uk! I'll have a go then on the UK forum as suggested and I will research all other suggestions given and get back to the forum with my findings. I'll seriously investigate UK suppliers of alternatives to the Boge delivery system.

Thanks, till later,

Greg.

I thought it'd be a good place to find out if there was a member in your area. You might be able to get together.
 

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Hi,
Wow, can you post me your exact tecniques? I'd love to try and achieve the wonderful experience you have with your vaping/cartos.




Lol, I thought this was an international forum including the Uk! I'll have a go then on the UK forum as suggested and I will research all other suggestions given and get back to the forum with my findings. I'll seriously investigate UK suppliers of alternatives to the Boge delivery system.

Thanks, till later,

Greg.
I have worst cam ever but it's quite easy.
Blu disposables come with a cup that has airhole and holes for coil wires
the boge 510 is very easy to remove just take some pliers rip everything out
put the gutted 510 cart over a flame util red hot
when it reaches red hot put under a running faucet and the 510 will pop off
use the catch cup from the blu
build your coil and wick and wallah an awesome dripper
when replacing the 510 use the coils negative leg to hold it tight in the ss tube like a wire wedge
you can enlarge the port airholes use a vivi nova positive pin that is bridged
and whoa huge clouds and flavor from an uber small atty..
It wont leak if you do it right, unless the temps are over 95 degrees then just about everything leaks with a bottom airhole :laugh:

Harder to explain than to take pictures but its silly simple..
sometimes you have to cut the silicon blu cup down depending on who made the boge
thats really simple as well just use the tube as a straight guide for the cut.
insert in boge cut off where you need it cut perfectly straight cut and it cuts like butter with a razor..
 

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One unique thing tho about blu disposable
They can be used for a whole 3 months with a 510 add hack
they are totally awesome carts
they blow every cart i have used away

yes 3 months constant use they are amazing --the only change was to add a 510 froma boge to it using all eeverything blu inside.

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