Help please! In a cartridge PREDICAMENT

[luxijen]

So I have been looking forward to buying an e-cigarette and finally quitting smoking.

However,
I can't find any model that doesn't include SOME kind of 'glycol' or 'glycerine' (whether it's propylene or vegetable) in the cartridge .

My problem with these substances is essentially they are sugars. I'm gonna be perfectly honest and admit I have an eating disorder. Thus, I don't want to absorb any sugar from smoking an e-cigarette. I went on one e-cigwebsite and talked with an online chat representative and asked if I would absorb calories from the glycerine.

His reply was "a minimal amount" and that was his "assumption" since he's not a professional nutritionist.

Anyways, if anyone knows a brand of e-cig (or any type of vaporizer) that doesn't contain the glycerine/glycol or any type of sugar.... Please let me know.
OR, if anyone has any DIY alternatives, I'd really appreciate that too. ANY advice would be great.

Thank-you everyone here on ECF.

 

[DrBeaker]

Humans

The acute oral toxicity of propylene glycol is very low, and large quantities are required to cause perceptible health damage in humans; propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body intopyruvic acid.(a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy),acetic acid.(handled by ethanol-metabolism),.lactic acid.(a normal acid generally abundant during digestion),[15].and.propionaldehyde.(a potentially hazardous substance).[16][17][18]Really...

I think both pg and vg are considered alcohols. I don't know where you got your information from. A quick google search on propylene glycol and I found this and much more. (Above)

Although it says pg has a sweet flavor that doesn't mean it has sugar in it. If it did it would gunk up your coils. Are you a diabetic concerned about your sugar levels?

 

[DrBeaker]

Glycerin

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Glycerin is a smooth sticky substance used as a bulking agent for nutrition bars and other products. It also hedlps hold the bars together. Glycerin is also called glycerol..

Glycerin is considered a carbohydrate, even though its chemical structure is different from the polysaccharides. Glycerin is metabolized more slowly than the other carbohydrates, and provides slightly more energy. In some cases glycerin is only partially metabolized; the remainder is excreted from the body..

Glycerin contributes 4.32 calories per gram..

The FDA (US Food and Drug Administration) requires that glycerin be included in the Total Carbohydrates listed on the Nutrition Facts label.Glycern may be different. Check this out.

Even though it has calories we are talking 4.32 calories per gram. You could vape your brains out all day and use up around 12 calories in 3ml of ejuice. And I'm sure you not going to absorb that much.
You might even eat less lose weight and with all that hand to mouth and a larg heavy mod burn more calories than you could possibly intake in your eliquid.

 

[Lana79]

Hope this answer doesn't come too late, but...

Fearing ingestion of unwanted calories from vaping juice is similar to fearing the same from brushing your teeth or fearing gaining water weight from showering. Say that the entire 10 ml bottle (lasting 2-5 days, depending on how heavy vaper you are) may contain some 43 calories. However, since you don't chug down the bottle, there's no way you could actually contribute all of that to your daily intake.

Now, I'm not a nutritionist, but I did drop a nice weight (from obese to normal) using calorie counting, so I learned a thing or two. That's my 2c anyway...

 

[Tcar]

However,
I can't find any model that doesn't include SOME kind of 'glycol' or 'glycerine'
Anyways, if anyone knows a brand of e-cig (or any type of vaporizer) that doesn't contain the glycerine/glycol or any type of sugar.... Please let me know.

You have to have something in e juice to suspend the nicotine and flavor in the vapor and give "body" to the vapor. That is why PG is used in food flavorings. It's similar to why vodka will perk up a tomato sauce. . it transports flavor. Otherwise it is just steam and the nic and the flavor stays in the carto/on the wick etc.

PG is not a sugar. It is a sugar alcohol. It is NOT sugar. It is not glycerine. It converts into pyruvic acid; which as it sounds is an organic acid involved in the glucose metabolism, acetic acid; the sourness in vinegar, and lactic acid; which is what makes milk sour when it goes bad and what makes your muscles sore after anaerobic exercise. Along for the ride is propionaldehyde which is a bit nasty since it is a irritant and likely why heavy PG juices aggravate some people.

Pg is C₃H₈O₂

On a side note, the signature for propionaldehyde has been found near the center of the Milky Way via radio teloscopes. I bet the Grays have some awesome ejuice.

VG is a sugar alcohol as well. Yes it is gycerol/glycerine. It has a different metabolic pathway thru the body from sugar. It has 22 calories in a teaspoon (which is 5ml by the way) which you likely burned reading this post.



VG is C₃H₈O₃
Glucose, the simplest sugar is C₆H₁₂O₆
Sucrose (table sugar) is C₁₂H₂₂O₁₁

So yes, it has calories but not in any metabolically meaningful way. Put it this way. It would take vaping 125ml of e juice to equal a Big Mac.

5ml, and that's a lot of juice to vape, is equal to one Hershey Kiss.

One ml of juice, and I vape about one or two at most a day is equal to 4.4 calories, which is equivalent to what you burn in one to two minutes sound asleep.

. . . and that is if you absorbed 100% of the e juice. . which you are definitely not, because you are exhaling vapor. . .

I am not trying to be nasty at all when I say this but you may want to seek some help with that eating disorder. If theoretical calories from the PG/VG that you actually absorb into your body and don't excrete are keeping you from quitting smoking. . .

PG for example gets excreted more than metabolized I seem to remember, also you will breath it back out, the alveoli in you lungs are not geared to absorb "food." Likely this is why we eat food and don't breath it.

No, i am not a nutritionist. Google it yourself if you don't believe me.