help setting up cheesecloth wick in kayfun 3.1

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I was really excited to try this new wicking material (cheesecloth) because I had seen it mentioned in many different forums and threads. When it came down to actually using it though, I couldn't find a single video anywhere about technique or even a basic quick instructional type deal. If anyone could point me in the right direction of a tutorial I'd be much obliged.
Thank you in advance and vape ON! =]. :vapor:
 

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It is just small cotton thread/yarn/gauze.

pull threads from cloth- 7-10, twist and feed.
Or
roll 7-10 threads width, feed into coil or wrap on a mandrel/pin.

Most boil in distilled water if flavour is off.

Have fun
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Right, I would do that if I were using a normal micro coil but I have a vertical micro oil sitting over my airflow bc I find the flavor I get from it is better than anything else I've tried. So I need to have the wick around the outside of the coil. I've been using cotton until now but I'd like to use cheesecloth if I could get some instruction on an efficient method to apply it to my build.
 

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My suggestion would be to use cotton yarn, wrap the coil before you install it (wrap it once on the bottom leg right next to the coil, then wrap around the outside of the coil (experiment with 1, 2, or 3 layers - more layers will add to difficulty of everything staying in place though) and then 1 wrap around the top leg - of course leave extra on each end to go in the wells.

I have not tried this but it just came to me after reading your second post and I just don't know how to get enough cheesecloth around it to wick properly (possibly tie it off with regular cotton thread?)

let us know how you ended up getting it to work
 

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I used to be a real fan of cotton cheesecloth, until I found organic cotton balls. Now, as Thrasher observed, cheesecloth has kind of fallen by the wayside ... it's today's blue foam.

It occurs to me that noobs might not get the "blue foam" reference ... in the early days of vaping, when folks were using simple atomizers with cartridges, blue foam from aquarium filters was a popular filler for the cartridges. Oh, and there were Lipton Pyramid Tea Bags, too ... ah, the memories! :laugh:
 

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Right, I would do that if I were using a normal micro coil but I have a vertical micro oil sitting over my airflow bc I find the flavor I get from it is better than anything else I've tried. So I need to have the wick around the outside of the coil. I've been using cotton until now but I'd like to use cheesecloth if I could get some instruction on an efficient method to apply it to my build.

I've got nothing for you from personal experience, but I've been looking at alternate ways to set up my Kayfun and came across this. They are using hemp, but I think the process could help you as a starting point for any fiber. I think there are more examples earlier in that thread and I rememebr some discussion of using a cloth but I don't remember exactly where.

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cheesecloth died off around a year ago, long before a vertical coil, you will be pressed to find any real instructions there and will probably have to wing it until you figure it out.

Why did cheesecloth die off? I got a couple recommendations to use it on calivapers if I recall correctly(about the origin of the recommendations not the recommendations themselves lol)
 

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My suggestion would be to use cotton yarn, wrap the coil before you install it (wrap it once on the bottom leg right next to the coil, then wrap around the outside of the coil (experiment with 1, 2, or 3 layers - more layers will add to difficulty of everything staying in place though) and then 1 wrap around the top leg - of course leave extra on each end to go in the wells.

I have not tried this but it just came to me after reading your second post and I just don't know how to get enough cheesecloth around it to wick properly (possibly tie it off with regular cotton thread?)

let us know how you ended up getting it to work
Thanks bro, if I ever get curious/adventurous enough to have another go at it I'll definitely let you know how it came out. In the meantime, I have gone back to good old cotton balls. While I find they are definitely more reliable I'm still not getting the steady reliable performance that I'd expect from all the reviews and happy vapers gushingly I've heard. The flavor is often not like amazing even muted sometimes, the wicking is often an issue, and the damn AFC is a constant pain in my side where I'm always having to tweak it and never feel it's set correctly to be conducive to proper pressure build up, coil cooling, and draw comfort simultaneously, it's like I just can't win. Please someone help me, I wanna love my russian, I'm even considering getting the 91% now that I've obtained another high-caliber mod worthy of its own devoted rba, opposed to playing musical rebuildabkes every time.
 

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I've been thinking about cheese cloth....I would try rolling it up like a mesh wick. I've been using cotton on my 91 clone and it wicks like a champ. I'd like to see a picture of your setup. I dunno, maybe you're using too much? Too much, or too little is a problem.
The thing is, even a tiny piece of cheesecloth is so dense and unmanageable when trying to thread through a .9 ohm micro coil. It starts to fray and catch on the threads like nobody's business. It's nuts, I wish I could figure this out because the one time I had it going it was the best flavor I've ever had, in any vaping setup, by a lot...sadly though within an hour or two wicking went to hell and it burned like hitler on a Tuesday.
 

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Saw this and wondering if slightly more tails would work in a russian...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...how-i-re-wick-my-t3s-cheesecloth-pictues.html
Wait, so if I'm understanding you, your saying that you pull apart the cheesecloth thread by thread til you have 15 strands and then pull off a couple more to tie them all together into like a little bundle of twigs except the twigs are strands of cotton from cheesecloth...? Have you tried using the cheesecloth as is and rolling it into a tube? Also what's this flavor wick you're talking about, where does that go, or does that only apply to the t3 heads bc I've never heard of installing any flavor wicks in a kayfun. Thanks for the help, it's sincerely appreciated. I've got all this freaking cheesecloth that I haven't been able to use at all for so long
 
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Actually, when I used cheesecloth all the time, I didn't pick the threads apart; I rolled it into a tube like sahsah suggested. That was one big benefit to using cheesecloth—it was easy to get a repeatable wick; just count the number of threads. I found that a 40-thread tube was ideal for atomizers like my Penelopes. For ProTanks, I'd go down to 30-35 threads. There's nothing wrong with cheesecloth as wicking material ... in fact, it's excellent! The reason cotton balls have surpassed cheesecloth is more of a convenience issue ... lots easier to just pull off a tuft of cotton and slide it through your coil than to do the count, cut, roll and wrap of cheesecloth. If you'd like to see a good video on cheesecloth wicking, check this out from Quigsworth. :)
 

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So I just rebuilt my first coil in a totally different way but here is what i did.

1-roll the coil
2-pull the strands off the cheese cloth and use half of the target number. Like if you want a 40 thread wick use only 20
3-lay the strands in a line and pull them straight no need to twist
4-take another strand of cheese cloth and fold it in half and stick it through the coil
(stick the folded end through)
5-open the folded end a bit to make a hole and put the wick bundle through it
6-gently pull the folded strand back through the coil and your wick stack should fold in half doubling in count
7-clip the ends to the right size
8-wick done wet it and all that normal stuff
 
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