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Help! Trying to find an easy/simple to use Ecig

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  1. 829maxx

    829maxx Full Member

    Feb 8, 2017
    Hey All,

    New member here - thanks for reading! I've been a smoker for over 15 years and although I am not new to Ecig's, I am now trying to use them on a daily basis to cut down and eventually quit smoking. I am looking for the easiest and most portable compact Ecig (cig-a-like, pod system, disposable, etc.) that will make me happy. I don't want to hassle with changing atomizers, refilling cartridges, and all the other nuances with the big tank systems. I want something that is closer to a "plug-n-play". I have been experimenting different brands and types with little success. So far I have tried:

    JUUL - love it, but I've bought 2 and both don't work properly - sometimes you get a good hit and other times it doesn't work. Their customer service is terrible and too pricey to keep trying!
    V2 cigalike - good vapor and throat hit, but not a fan of their flavors (flavors are too "straight forward" if that makes sense) and the vapor comes out very warm.
    VaporFi cigalike with refillable carts - didn't work and had to return
    Njoy Daily Disposable - This has been the most successful for me as they are simple and the flavors aren't bad, but since they have filed for bankruptcy, they don't have anything in stock ever.
    White Cloud Wide Mini - Liked the overall product, but tried about 10 different flavors and each one produced a different throat hit, and some flavors were strong and others weak. No consistency.

    I've been interested in trying the V2 Vertx, but since I didn't like their flavors much, I don't know that I'd like it unless I got the refill tanks...it's also a little too long in size for what I'd want.

    I'm hoping someone out there has some suggestions for me?! Sorry for the longwinded message about my likes/dislikes...appreciate you reading!
     
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  2. gandymarsh

    gandymarsh Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 11, 2014
    WI, USA
  3. 829maxx

    829maxx Full Member

    Feb 8, 2017
    Thanks for the reply! I REALLY like what the icare mini has to offer - it's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for in terms of portability and performance, except its not simple to keep up. I've found the most success for me is the least amount of work needed- I can deal with a few "maintenance" things like charging, but if I have to charge, refill, change coils, and the like, it becomes to much hassle and I just go back to smoking...or I forget to do one of those things and I'm stuck all day without an Ecig.
     
  4. SnapDragon NY

    SnapDragon NY Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2017
    I quit cigarettes by using the Mistic Bridge Kits and some Mistic cartridges and Haus Liquids! I jumped up to the Joyetech eCabs and bought 4 of the kits and used 2 of them for many months, they have removable batteries so worked out pretty well. The Joyetech eRoll looks pretty nice too, has a case that is rechargeable!
    I have a friend that swears by her Mig cig setups- I have never used those, but that is all she uses!
    I have since moved past the starter kits in the last year and a half or so- and there are many great mods and tanks.
    Another great system is the eLeaf Pico kit which works pretty well too! The Melo tank is OK, but can also use many types of tanks out on the market today as long as it is 22mm-23mm!
     
  5. djsvapour

    djsvapour ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 2, 2012
    England and Wales
    Please, please... @829maxx

    V2, Vaporfi and Whitecloud are between them the biggest *deleted* in the business.

    To my mind refilling a clearomizer and changing the atomizer coil IS a plug and play system.
    Why spend 3 times as much on something that isn't even half as good?

    There are not many systems that you are 'imagining' to exist other than spending $2,000 a year on something much worse than spending $700 a year.

    Maybe you can afford to save the 'hassle' but handing money over to V2 and/or Vaporfi is a total travesty.



    In the UK, we do actually have some truly plug and play systems coming through. You will surely have them stateside. Whatever they are, they won't be cheap.
    BUT at least they are not Vaporfi or Whitecloud or V2.

    Can you see this from an American I.P. address?

    MESH
     
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  6. SteveS45

    SteveS45 Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 27, 2016
    Long Island, New York
    Welcome @829maxx and I hope you enjoy your stay! I started with the Cig-A-Likes and eventually moved up to an iStick TC40W and a Nautilus Mini tank which I feel is a great starter kit for anyone. I know many former smokers who used this setup to get into the vaping. Good Luck and keep up the good work!
     
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  7. djsvapour

    djsvapour ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 2, 2012
    England and Wales
    Well said!

    You can vape an iStick and Nautilus for $600 a year in the UK. Comfortably. It's a good vape and will do the job.
    Most of these vaping brands (like the type you mention) just think they are doing us all a favour if we can vape for a little less than smoking. Smoking (1 PAD) costs $4,500 a year in the UK. You can spend $3,500 of that money on a little plastic stick that calls itself a "Vaping" device. Most are owned by tobacco companies too.

    $600 vs $3,000 and the $3,000 is a worse and less effective experience.
     
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  8. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    Yes, we/I can see your link. Kinda surprised tho that you recommended a BT owned ecig.
     
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  9. 829maxx

    829maxx Full Member

    Feb 8, 2017
    ya, I've tried the vape pen styles, and I think I'd like them more if they made ones a little more compact.
     
  10. djsvapour

    djsvapour ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 2, 2012
    England and Wales
    Good point. No, that isn't my style, but it's the cost of the system that most intrigues me.

    £1 per refill. ($1.25).... compared to up to $3-4 per cartomizer with the old-tech systems.

    I remember a time when the 'infamous' Whitecloud were charging $149 for a kit I could buy for under $25. Those were the days. (Not in a good way....)


    The Pod systems are interesting, but one doesn't want to wind up with spending even more money with some extremely greedy brands.
    I fear this is how it's going to be for a while, maybe years. New tech starts a new trend - people pay absurd amounts of money to vape a certain way because that is the way the industry likes it.
    In any other business, trying to extract $1,000 a year off the consumer selling them $100-worth of hardware wouldn't wash.
     
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  11. 829maxx

    829maxx Full Member

    Feb 8, 2017
    I completely understand the "big brand" nonsense, but they do have a proven track record. I'm just trying to find something that bridges the gap on ease of use/maintenance, performance, and size. I have several friends that use tank systems, and it's just not my cup of tea to use all day and carry around...Then go fuss with it at home having to remember to refill it, charge it, take apart the whole damn thing to change a coil, or remembering how many times you've filled a tank before it needs to be replaced. I'm not a techie guy, so taking apart a system, modding, tweaking it's voltage and air flow and those things are not for me. I'd rather spend the extra money (if needed) for something a little more simplistic that will keep me off smoking.

    Sorry, I know that probably sounds crazy to most...
     
  12. 829maxx

    829maxx Full Member

    Feb 8, 2017
    The Mesh looks interesting. That's probably along the lines of what I'm looking for?! Seems kind of similar to the JUUL in the sense of a closed pod system.
     
  13. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    If you get the mesh, please give us some feedback.
     
  14. djsvapour

    djsvapour ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 2, 2012
    England and Wales
    Yes, I understand, but they also use exactly the same products as many of us used/use just they charged triple or more. I can't recommend paying for a lazer-etched logo.
    That's the problem. These people absolutely rule the internet with a network of review sites and people within the community who are happy to take a few $ in commission to see people pay $119 for a $29 e-cig kit.
    I bought a plug and play kit in the UK which had endless 5* reviews. It was £79.99, about $100.
    I bought the same kit from Kanger (Kangertech) a few weeks later for $28.00

    I don't think you are crazy... not at all... it's just a 'thing' I do to point out that most of this hardware is not what it appears to be.

    But I am not in a position to try a seem superior, as I was into over $800 before I worked it out. It's a shameful industry that creates it's own reality, a reality where people believe what they read on sites which are all part of the same selling pyramids.
    One of the brands you have tried pretends they are higher quality with more trustworthy customer service. On another part of their re-sellers website, they boast that selling their products can achieve 400% profit margins. That makes something worth $4 sell for $20. I want to pay $4. Most people would.
     
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  15. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined. Might look at devices below. Your requirements fall between a rock and a hard place. Most vapers are not willing to spend the money for an AIO without a tank. Best of luck in your search.
    Might like to read:
    Learn About Vaping Here - Everything Ecigs - From Beginner To Advanced
    http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2014/01/ecigarette-college-guides-tutorials-information.html
    One Stop Reference Shop For New and Experienced Vapers
    Beginner – Guide To Vaping
    May 2016 / Smoking Vapor
    (10) Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods | E-Cigarette Forum
    (1) Proper Terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments. | E-Cigarette Forum
     
  16. Banger696

    Banger696 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 9, 2017
    North East, UK
    I personally like the Logic Pro as a closed system, good throat hit with the higher 18mg capsules and plenty of vapour. I am also using logic liquid in an open system but there is only about 6 flavours so a bit limited. Google Logic Pro and have a look some people don't like it but I like it its small lasts half a day on a charge of heavy vaping and is relatively cheap.
     
  17. Smoke_too_much

    Smoke_too_much Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 8, 2016
    Hi Maxx & welcome
    Your preferences are obviously MTL devices and I find myself in the sub-ohm camp with little appreciation for those units with tight draw and low cloud production so I'll just say hi and good luck finding something that suits you.
     
  18. dyanaprajna

    dyanaprajna Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 6, 2017
    Indiana
    I use a Blu, but I don't suggest it. It's very pricey for a very mediocre product. I just use it as a backup or work vape. If you insist on a cigalike, try Halo. However, there are very simple ego style products out there. My soon to be ex wife uses a Kanger esmart, it's not much bigger than a cigalike, but with a disposable refillable clearomizer. In other words, you can fill the tank with your favorite ejuice, and when the wick/coil is done, you toss it for a new one, just like a cigalike tank. Joyetech has their ego line, which makes similar products, and all for much cheaper than cigalikes.
     
  19. batteredwombat

    batteredwombat Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2015
    Cigalikes and smaller non-hassle devices never worked for me, and you still have to charge them, change cartridges ect. As others have pointed out big tobacco owns a majority of those devices. I would advise learning the ropes and get a kayfun/square RS or other mtl atomizer and a small temp control device with a single 18650. I couldn't quit with the cigalikes or pens, and after finding out big tobacco owns most, I cannot ethically recommend any of those, as it's paying money to the companies looking to destroy vaping outside of their products. Hope you find something that works and welcome to ECF!
     
  20. medleypat

    medleypat Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 5, 2016
    Frankfort Indiana
    Do a search on ECF for pod systems should be just what you are looking for.
     
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