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i bought a tsunami mech mod kit and after an hour the battery got really bad i took it back to the store and i got a new one a day after it didint fire sometimes and i took it back to the store and they said the battery was upside down but when i bought it he said + is down and this girl and the other dude said - is down. im getting so angry cus it wont fire i have to take the battery out and put it in again and again and again then it maybe fire when i want to but when i put it down and want to use it again it wont fire. plz help sorry if it is bad english
 
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Sounds like contact issues, make sure everything is clean and making contact. But do not, I repeat DO NOT wrench down, you need to just insure it's snug.

Here's a review that does an excellent job breaking it down and putting back together.



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Sounds like contact issues, make sure everything is clean and making contact. But do not, I repeat DO NOT wrench down, you need to just insure it's snug.

Here's a review that does an excellent job breaking it down and putting back together.



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thanks but would like babywipes help or do i need something stronger. already seen all review videos on the mech. and also my batterie have like a black ring on the - side and it looks like the metal have melted on the + side
 
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What batteries are you using? (name brand, mah, color wrap or any letters / number to help identify)
What is the resistance of the coil(s) you're using? resistance tells how many amps you're demanding from the battery.
How are you monitoring battery voltage? you should never let the voltage drop below 2.5v - 2.8v.


In the hands of the inexperienced mechanicals can become dangerous in a blink of an eye.
Sounds like you've jumped in over your head without understanding the beginning basics of using a mechanical safely.
 

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i bought a tsunami mech mod kit and after an hour the battery got really bad i took it back to the store and i got a new one a day after it didint fire sometimes and i took it back to the store and they said the battery was upside down but when i bought it he said + is down and this girl and the other dude said - is down. im getting so angry cus it wont fire i have to take the battery out and put it in again and again and again then it maybe fire when i want to but when i put it down and want to use it again it wont fire. plz help sorry if it is bad english

A mech is above your skill level.
PLEASE return to the store and buy a regulated device and a battery made by the folks that make good TVs. (Sony, Samsung,LG).

Please, be much safer.
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Um, mechs can be confusing. I'm a little concerned about several things, mainly battery related. It sounds like you got two subpar batteries that are likely not authentic as you got them from a vape shop, and they often don't sell authentic batteries, they are often rewrapped cells. You need to know what your battery is before you can vape it safely. Here is a link that will clarify many battery issues, including vendors that are known to be authentic. Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum I would suggest a read.

You haven't stated what your build is, I don't think, but until you understand safe batteries, ohms law, and a host of other variables, you aren't ready for a mechanical mod. It sounds like you are getting arcing to me from somewhere, based on what you describe as far as discoloration and etc. This is also not good, and yes you may need to clean and lubricate your contacts, but you need to Do and Learn many other things along the way.

Most people don't start vaping with a mech mod (at least any more) as it's really where accidents and explosions can happen more often, and if you don't know what you are doing, sure, frustration can happen, but much worse can also happen.

Keep your mechanical mod for when you have the needed skills to build it. Learning to use a mechanical can be done, and probably certainly by you, but maybe once you have familiarized yourself more with vaping and all you need to learn to vape a mech safely.

I will concur with any suggestions made about getting a regulated mod first, getting some vaping time under your belt to give you confidence and success as you learn the ins and outs of vaping a mechanical mod.

Please consider doing this, for your own safety. What you are describing are a bunch of "happenings" that really make me question the safety of what you are doing. You don't have to jump in to the deep end right away, but you most certainly can... when and if you are ready to do so. You aren't now, and I have a hunch that it will take a lot more time and research which is why folks are suggesting a regulated mod. You need a backup anyway.

Best of luck,

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thanks but would like babywipes help or do i need something stronger. already seen all review videos on the mech. and also my batterie have like a black ring on the - side and it looks like the metal have melted on the + side
Melted?
You are in serious trouble!
What batteries are you using?
What are the Ohms of your build?

And yes you sound way too inexperienced.

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Agree with all of the previous comments. :thumb: You need to stop using a mechanical mod until you have more mechanical mod knowledge. Mech mods are not learning devices, but for experienced vapers only. In the hands of an uninformed user, a tube mech can literally become a pipe bomb.

You haven't said which specific batteries (make and model#) you have and what coil resistance you're using. Do you even have an ohm reader?


A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod
  • Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, and faux hybrid mods.
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
  • As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Recently revised to be even more simple. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.
Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?

  • Learn what a rewrap cell is. If you are using rebranded cells, does that mean it is inferior, poor quality, or even dangerous? Which batteries are suspected to be rebranded batteries?


 
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What batteries are you using? (name brand, mah, color wrap or any letters / number to help identify)
What is the resistance of the coil(s) you're using? resistance tells how many amps you're demanding from the battery.
How are you monitoring battery voltage? you should never let the voltage drop below 2.5v - 2.8v.


In the hands of the inexperienced mechanicals can become dangerous in a blink of an eye.
Sounds like you've jumped in over your head without understanding the beginning basics of using a mechanical safely.

when i bought it he didint say anything he said 'just check the battery if the wrap is off its bad ' if i knew evrything like that you are saying i wouldent bought it but i cant return it cus its 'nothing wrong with it'
 
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What's wrong with it is the guy at the shop thought it was a good idea to sell it to you. If you don't even know what batteries you have or what the resistance of your coil is then a mech is the last thing you want to vape on.
Put it in a drawer for future use and get a mod that suits your safety awareness.
 

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What's wrong with it is the guy at the shop thought it was a good idea to sell it to you. If you don't even know what batteries you have or what the resistance of your coil is then a mech is the last thing you want to vape on.
Put it in a drawer for future use and get a mod that suits your safety awareness.

i have no money tho :_( i guess i buy my friends vape its a rda Goon v. 1.5 and
IJOY Captain PD270. does that sound good? i hope no one have bought it
 
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First, I would try a return. I might point out to the vape shop owner that he gave you equipment without enough instruction, and if he says he didn't, you show him where things have arc-ed and melted. He pretty much set you up to fail and OMG a 0.12 build is TERRIFYING given you don't know what battery you have. Take it back, be insistent, and ask him how many vapers he's sold mechs to right out of the gate. You always have the option to take it up to your bank, or credit card if he balks. Unless he is the only vape store in your area, I would try to make the return, any way I could, and never darken the door of that vape shop again.

I guess you could buy your friend's setup, but you'll still be dealing with an RTA. Do you know how to build proficiently? If not I would suggest a new mod with a drop in coil tank, you can certainly get setups like that fairly inexpensively that are capable of blowing large clouds if you wish. If you decide to go that direction, you could ask for feedback on this thread about mods that could work for you. Buying online (it doesn't have to be from China) may be your best bet, price wise as well, so if you figure out a setup that works, well, return the mech. It is, technically, damaged due to the arcing and parts being MELTED and I am going to assume that the vape store owner, not you, placed the build inside the mech, so he's also responsible for THAT.

Really, we're here to help. If you had no idea what you were getting yourself into AND that damaged your equipment, you have a perfectly decent and reasonable reason to return, and if the vape shop owner tries to lay blame on you, you just point out that ALL you did is press the fire button, and the rest was all on HIM. I would mention your extreme LUCK in not getting a face or h hand blown off, and suggest he issue you a refund. In this situation I, (personally) would not hold back, especially if the store owner understood you were a new user, which he kind of MUST have known since he set up your build for you (I am assuming, perhaps you did it).

But either way, I'd suggest a nice, sub0hm 2 battery setup which isn't OTT in terms of tank and coils, and offers a variety of coils so you start to get a sense of what resistances work well for you. You may decide to get a mech later, but I'd gently suggest unloading/warrantying the one you have (via whatever necessary fashion) to free up funds so you can get gear you can really learn and grow with.

Best of luck,

Anna
 

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batteries i dont now some green wrap on it 1850 something maybe. coils prebuild 0,12
Yes put it down NOW!

I would also chew out the complete irresponsible idiot ..... who sold it to you! You Must know what you're doing on a Mech, if not you will hurt yourself that's why they state that Mech's are for advanced users only. It's like putting someone just learning to drive gets behind the wheel of a loaded Semi Truck, seriously.

Here's what I say to Vapers who are looking to get into Mechanical Mod's, this is the basics. That and you already need to be proficient in building your own coils. If you're not willing to learn or put the effort in then stick with Regulated Mods.

Here's my lecture I give new Mech users.

1. Ohm's law, Steam Engine | free vaping calculators makes it easy and there's even an app on it for Android

2. Batteries, take good care of your batteries and know them!!!!!!!

a. Avoid .... batteries like eFest who rewrap rejects with grossly inflated amp ratings. Stick with authentic LG, Sony or Samsung from reputable (not eBay or Amazon) sources, great places that I get authentics from are -

http://liionwholesale.com/

Earth's #1 source for IMR 18650 Batteries, Chargers, Cases & Wraps | IMRbatteries.com

b. Stick well within Continuous Discharge Rate (CDR) Not the "pulse"

c. Keep up to date with what Mooch tests and battery ratings, follow his posts on Facebook and his Blog and only use his recommend batteries.

d. In Mod's with multiple batteries, marry them.

e. Get some battery wraps, they're cheap and easy to re-wrap batteries. Any nicks,tears or what ever don't be stupid and just re-wrap.

3. Don't build stupid low a good builder can chuck and get awesome dense vape from a good build. It's simple, with 20 CDR Amp batteries -

a. Single battery mod's you're fine with .2 ohms on up

b. Dual Parallel you're fine with .15 on up. Parallel you take the full CDR of one battery then add 1/2 the CDR of the next battery

c. Series you double the voltage but you share the amps . So a series you build high with a lot of wire mass no lower that .4 ohms.

4. Make sure you don't have any shorts. For an extra caution any new build I will vape on a regulated mod for a few drips or with a tank about a 1/4 tank. This is to insure nothing wonky with my build like shorts.

5. Careful if it's not in your hand, if it doesn't have a lock on the button and you put it in your pocket (which I really don't recommend) insure nothing else is in your pocket and it's loose. Don't want to put it in your front pocket and blow your Johnson off ya know ;)

6. Last but certainly NOT the least, keep it clean! Clean it when you first get it "before" you even use it and clean it on a regular basis.

a. Ultrasonics are a very good investment, got mine off Amazon for around $25.

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batteries i dont now some green wrap on it 1850 something maybe. coils prebuild 0,12
Sorry, that just doesn't cut it.

Using the right battery for your mech setup is absolutely essential. And unfortunately, no one should trust a vape shop to sell you the right batteries; many shops are only interested in selling you what they have in the shop. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to look out for your own personal safety. That salesman isn't going to care if your vape gear explodes in your face or you burn/blow up your hand. That's all on you.

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18650 batteries are available with widely varying specs. Many of them are in green wrappers. You can't just say a "battery with a green wrap" and be fine with that.

And 0.12 ohm coil resistance is way TOO LOW for a noobie mech user, especially for someone who doesn't know anything about the batteries they have!


To use a mech safely, you have to have already done your homework. You have to know the amp limit of your batteries. You have to avoid using aftermarket brand batteries. You have to know the amp draw of the coil(s) you're using. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I'm not trying to be rude, but we all are looking out for your personal safety. Sensationalized news reports of an e-cig exploding does not benefit our vaping community.

I've given you a head start with the links and videos. Read and watch them. If you have questions, ask us here and we will provide the answers.
 
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First, I would try a return. I might point out to the vape shop owner that he gave you equipment without enough instruction, and if he says he didn't, you show him where things have arc-ed and melted. He pretty much set you up to fail and OMG a 0.12 build is TERRIFYING given you don't know what battery you have. Take it back, be insistent, and ask him how many vapers he's sold mechs to right out of the gate. You always have the option to take it up to your bank, or credit card if he balks. Unless he is the only vape store in your area, I would try to make the return, any way I could, and never darken the door of that vape shop again.

I guess you could buy your friend's setup, but you'll still be dealing with an RTA. Do you know how to build proficiently? If not I would suggest a new mod with a drop in coil tank, you can certainly get setups like that fairly inexpensively that are capable of blowing large clouds if you wish. If you decide to go that direction, you could ask for feedback on this thread about mods that could work for you. Buying online (it doesn't have to be from China) may be your best bet, price wise as well, so if you figure out a setup that works, well, return the mech. It is, technically, damaged due to the arcing and parts being MELTED and I am going to assume that the vape store owner, not you, placed the build inside the mech, so he's also responsible for THAT.

Really, we're here to help. If you had no idea what you were getting yourself into AND that damaged your equipment, you have a perfectly decent and reasonable reason to return, and if the vape shop owner tries to lay blame on you, you just point out that ALL you did is press the fire button, and the rest was all on HIM. I would mention your extreme LUCK in not getting a face or h hand blown off, and suggest he issue you a refund. In this situation I, (personally) would not hold back, especially if the store owner understood you were a new user, which he kind of MUST have known since he set up your build for you (I am assuming, perhaps you did it).

But either way, I'd suggest a nice, sub0hm 2 battery setup which isn't OTT in terms of tank and coils, and offers a variety of coils so you start to get a sense of what resistances work well for you. You may decide to get a mech later, but I'd gently suggest unloading/warrantying the one you have (via whatever necessary fashion) to free up funds so you can get gear you can really learn and grow with.

Best of luck,

Anna
i will try to return it but im so shy and if it is to many peolpe there i cant go in. i can pass out if it is to many people. i walked down there today but it was to many people there so i didint go in. i have been vaping in like 3 years soon. i had a swag mini i can get that back from my girlfriend. i am a cloudchaser i do tricks to make me keep vapeing. and i gues my name fits perfekt 'notvapelord'
 
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Sorry, that just doesn't cut it. Using the right battery for your mech setup is absolutely essential. And unfortunately, no one should trust a vape shop to sell you the right batteries; many shops are only interested in selling you what they have in the shop. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to look out for your own personal safety. That salesman isn't going to care if your vape gear explodes in your face or you burn/blow up your hand. That's all on you.

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18650 batteries are available with widely varying specs. Many of them are in green wrappers. You can't just say a "battery with a green wrap" and be fine with that.

And 0.12 ohm coil resistance is way TOO LOW for a noobie mech user, especially for someone who doesn't know anything about the batteries they have!


To use a mech safely, you have to have already done your homework. You have to know the amp limit of your batteries. You have to avoid using aftermarket brand batteries. You have to know the amp draw of the coil(s) you're using. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I'm not trying to be rude, but we all are looking out for your personal safety. News reports of an e-cig exploding does not benefit our vaping community.

I've given you a head start with the links and videos. Read and watch them. If you have questions, ask us here and we will provide the answers.
yeah okej im going back to ciggarets till i can buy a new one. ahh god my mom gonna be .......
 
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i will try to return it but im so shy and if it is to many peolpe there i cant go in. i can pass out if it is to many people. i walked down there today but it was to many people there so i didint go in. i have been vaping in like 3 years soon. i had a swag mini i can get that back from my girlfriend. i am a cloudchaser i do tricks to make me keep vapeing. and i gues my name fits perfekt 'notvapelord'
Whatever it takes. At the present time, a mech mod would be extremely dangerous in your hands.

I hope you learn what you need to know. Good luck. :)
 
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