Help using 28g kanthal wire

[Subiezilla]

Hi, I recently went from using 32g kanthal wire to some 28g for lower resistance coils, but I find tha naturaly the thicker wire is less maliable thus making wrapping and adjusting coils more difficult. Does anyone have any tips on how to wrap easier with 28g wire? I am using a aga-t2 and usually wrap my coils on the atty, I have seen some people prewrap on a nail the transfer to their wick and attach to positive and negative post but I didn't have any succes with that. Any help is greatly appreciated.

-using ss mesh wicks

 

[Nizzler]

I was having the same issued too when I made the jump into subohm vaping. For me it was patience and slowing down. 32g compared to 289g are both different when working with. I also found that when wrapping my coils with 28g pulling with a little more tension helped. They key is to not pull so hard that you end up choking the wick. I hope this made sense. The more you get the feel of it the easier it will be for you.

 

[Subiezilla]

I was having the same issued too when I made the jump into subohm vaping. For me it was patience and slowing down. 32g compared to 289g are both different when working with. I also found that when wrapping my coils with 28g pulling with a little more tension helped. They key is to not pull so hard that you end up choking the wick. I hope this made sense. The more you get the feel of it the easier it will be for you.

When I pull it will bend the wick, do you stick a nail or something in your wick to prevent this?

 

[Nizzler]

Forgot to ask what kind of wick you are using? I'm guessing ss mesh unoidized?

sorry the "eks" button on the crappy keyboard doesn't work.

 

[darkzero]

Some people heat/torch it to anneal it but Kanthal should already come annealed.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Once you get to the point of adjusting the coils, pulsing them while doing so makes them a LOT easier to move.

 

[Subiezilla]

Forgot to ask what kind of wick you are using? I'm guessing ss mesh unoidized?

sorry the "eks" button on the crappy keyboard doesn't work.

Sorry I should have noted I'm using ss mesh wicks on my aga-t2

 

[vapdivrr]

definitely heat torching helps to make the thicker wire a little more pliable, this has always worked really good. if you want more pliability you can electrically anneal the wire. have the wick all ready to go, but don't install it into the wick hole yet. cut a length of wire, maybe 3 inches long, depending on your preferred resistance, attach one end to the neg post on your aga and the other to the positive, now fire the device until the wire glows, do this between 10 to 15 sec, let cool for 5 seconds and repeat this process about 10x's. immediately disconnect the positive post, insert the wick and wrap. this will get the wire very very pliable. just don't wrap the wick to tightly. this method only works when hand wrapping the wick. for me I just heat torch 28g and thinner and electric anneal for wires thicker then 28g. if you try this the length of wire is key, if your length is to long it wont heat, if its to short the resistance is low and a vv device will error. if using a vv device use the highest voltage allowable before erroring.

 

[Hitmetwice]

I wrap on an electronic screwdriver. 1.4mm, 2mm., 2.4mm, 3mm.

Then stuff the wick through it. Don't use mesh much but trimming some off or rolling it tighter
should get it done. Screwdriver stays in coil and inserted into wick hole for attaching to posts.

 

[Subiezilla]

Thanks everyone for your input i will try some of the tequniques mentioned and report back on my next coil wrap with results

 

[varivapr]

torching the wire first and adjusting the coils when red hot should make life much easier

 

[Robber]

I roll mine on the wick but not on the rba..
and i install wick and coil together, but i use around 5 or 6 wraps.

usually a few more wraps while making the coil, and then unroll at the bottom at the bottom before installing

 

[Subiezilla]

So the technique u used that had some okay results was wrapping the coil with the wick off the atty I put a sewing needle in the wick to keep if from flexing, I then put that in the atty with the needle still in place to keep it from bending toward the positive and negative post while I tightend and attached it. I removed the needle and resolved any hot spots. That was it

 

[vapdivrr]

So the technique u used that had some okay results was wrapping the coil with the wick off the atty I put a sewing needle in the wick to keep if from flexing, I then put that in the atty with the needle still in place to keep it from bending toward the positive and negative post while I tightend and attached it. I removed the needle and resolved any hot spots. That was it

I know there is a balance of heat sink with different densities of mesh wicks but I have found much better wicking capabilities from a wick that is more solid, no needle required.

 

[Robber]

same here, i like it solid but with a tiny hole in the wick and some air around the wick hole so i don't need to keep the fill hole open when i'm out and about, but a 3mm wickhole helps a lot in this contect.

 

[vapdivrr]

same here, i like it solid but with a tiny hole in the wick and some air around the wick hole so i don't need to keep the fill hole open when i'm out and about, but a 3mm wickhole helps a lot in this contect.

exactly...

 

[rogergendron1]

A real easy method is to get a bunch of various size machine screws and thread space. Then wrap the wire around the proper sized screw forth wick you have and select the proper thread count for your preferred coil space.

I like a simple 28 gauge kanthal with a 6 wrap around a 4-40 machine screw. Fits 3 mm silica perfectly. Gives about .9-1.2 ohms depending on the leg length.