Help with Nicotine!

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Ablonz

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@BLANKFACE Hello and Welcome to the forums!!! It will depend on the amount of juice you would like to make. The ejuice Me Up calculator works well and when you enter in the specifics like Nic content (50mg), ratio of nic Pg to Vg(50Pg,50Vg), what flavoring you want to add(percentage 1-3%) start low and adjust to taste, what target amount for nic strength(6mg), ratio (""Pg,""Vg enter what you want final to be), and the amount of juice you want to make(30ml). You will also need to buy straight Pg and straight Vg to get your final mix down to 6mg/ml. Most flavors are Pg based. Hope this helps. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. A lot of wonderful people here willing to help out when we can.
 

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Hallo,
i started vaping few months ago and
i would like to make some DIY E-liquid.
i will buy
500ml (50% PG, 50% VG, 50mg/ml Nicotine)
and RY4 eLiquid Flavor
So my question is what should i do to get 6 mg of Nicotine?
Thank you!
Hi, and welcome @BLANKFACE.
Besides needing nicotine and flavor concentrate(s); you will also need plain PG and/or VG to complete the diluting. If 6mg/mL nic is your target (goal), and you are using 50mg/mL as your source, you will only want 12% of your recipe (regardless of size) to be made up of you nic concentrate. That means the other 88% has to come from other ingredients.

I don't know what brand of RY4 concentrate you are looking at buying, but I don't know of ANY that you would want to use at 88% strength... that is just way too strong for even the weakest concentrates (that I know of). So, if you are using 5%, or 10%, or even 20% RY4 concentrate, that is still only making up 17-32% of your overall recipe (including the 12% nicotine base). So "generally" the rest of the recipe is filled in with plain PG, and/or VG. How much of each is determined on what you want your final PG/VG ratio to be.

Not knowing what you want your final numbers to be; I plugged the info you did share, into my e-liquid calculator, just so you could see an example of one random possibility:
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(you can click on the image above to see a larger version)
I have highlighted the important data in case you are not familiar with calculators. I set the target nicotine to 6mg/mL, and created a nicotine base of 50PG/50VG and 50mg/mL nic. I left the final PG/VG ratio at 50/50 since you did not mention any other preference. Finally, I pulled 10% targeted flavor strength out of my rear-end, because I have no clue what you are going to actually want to use. 10% was a nice round number and makes seeing the different percentages easily. The same goes for selecting a 100mL recipe batch size; I am NOT suggesting that you begin mixing large batches like that, until you have recipes you know taste good to you. 10-15mL would be a much smarter starting point.

What I really wanted you to see was the highlighted far right column that is labeled "Total %." Notice that is is calling for:
12% nicotine base
10% Flavor concentrate
34% PG
44% VG

Notice that even though I want a 50PG/50VG ratio, and I am using 50PG/50VG nic base; the calculator is telling me to add 10% more VG than PG. That is because the flavor concentrate I chose is in a PG base. So, the flavor concentrate counts as PG too: 10% PG flavor + 34% plain PG = 44% total PG. Now I understand that I have 44% PG + the 6% PG in the nic base (one half of the 12% the recipe is calling for) = 50% PG. Same thing for the VG; 44% added plain VG + the remaining 6% from the nic base = 50% VG.

That make everything clear as mud?:D

BTW: the calculator I used in the screen shot is Juice Calculator; the one previously suggested by @Beamslider, and @thomas l.:)
 

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I can get nicotine in pg base or vg base at 48mg/ml. Breaking 48 down to 6 is simple math. But which is better, pg base or vg base for nicotine?
It depends on what you want for your final ratio. If you like high VG ratio e-liquids; get your nic in VG. If you prefer high PG ratio e-liquids; get your nic in a PG base.
 

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If you can get your PG/VG ratio where you want it, PG is a good choice as it's less "gloopy" than VG base, and it's harder to spill and easier to handle. I have to use max VG so I use VG in my mixes, but I don't really enjoy it that much and wish I could use PG. If you want a high VG mix however, you may need to get your nic in a VG base. It's manageable, just a bit more difficult with spills etc.

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I ordered my nic in 75pg/25vg just because it was the closest mix to my 70pg/30vg mix at the time (a little over a year ago). I'm now moving to 60/40 and will probably end up eventually mixing at 50/50. It will be a long time before I use up my two liters of 75pg/25vg nic.

Recipe calculators are flexible, but the closer you are in nic base to your final recipe the better. At 50/50 you will use almost equal amounts of PG and VG. At 70pg I find myself running out of PG before VG and have to order two quarts of PG to one quart of VG at a time.

Gallons of PG/VG are cheaper but require more storage space at higher pg levels. At 50/50 I could see the benefit of ordering one of each.
 
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My suggestion to any one starting out is to get 100mg/ml in pg base. The higher concentration means you use less of it so you can achieve pretty high VG/PG ratio and pg is much easier to work with than VG. So even if you are using a fairly high flavor % say 17% and you want 3mg/ml final you would end up with an 80/20 VG/PG mix.

People who probably should not buy pg based:

-if you have a pg allergy
-if you insist on the absolutely highest VG content (may lead to wicking problems)
-if you are a super high flavor % mixer and want to maintain high VG PG ratios.

If you are new to DIY you may also want to take a look at this sticky Mixing By Weight: Basics 101

Happy mixing
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