help with sigelei 150w batteries!
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It doesn't seem like it should be so difficult to confirm if a company like Sony is in fact making these batteries or not. The "I know a guy" argument may be good enough for you because YOU know the guy, but the rest of us do not. You say he got them directly from Sony, but did he? There isn't the smallest possibility that could be false, or he could have been misled? Why can he get them directly from Sony and others can't?I've read it. It's a straight copy and paste from a Reddit post made in August of last year.
Sony VTC5 18650 - Notice from Sony : electronic_cigarette
Now you may want to re-read what I wrote. I know of a NON-VAPE SHOP BATTERY SELLER that received a new shipment DIRECTLY FROM SONY last month.
This battery seller does NOT buy from 3rd party vendors. They buy directly from the manufacturers and ONLY from the manufacturers.
So unless Sony is now selling fakes themselves, these are real.
Oh, and for the record, if you go to the Orbtronic website, you'll find this....
IN STOCK! Sony VTC5 2600mAh 30A 18650 High Drain rechargeable battery 3.7V
Which includes this:
Sony absolutely is producing VTC5 batteries again.
Personally, it doesn't effect me, I have no reason to push my batteries beyond 20A anyway, so I will just stick with the ones I have a pretty good idea are not inflated (HE4 and 25R) and work under that 20A's.
I ran mine on 25R's with no problems what so ever. Granted I didn't build .1 and crank it to 150. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a VV device to begin with. The samsungs and the LGs are both reputable companies.
Why do you only read and respond to part of a post and ignore the rest that contradicts your position?
Care to explain how Orbtronic managed to get Sony 2015 Sony VTC5 batteries and even produced a battery test comparing them with the 2014 VTC5s? You do know who Orbtronic is, don't you? Here's a hint... Orbtronic SX30, one of only 3 30A continuous drain battery sellers listed in this thread.
Why not just admit you're wrong and you're entire argument is based on a Reddit post from August 2014 that is both outdated and incorrect?
VTC4(maybe 5) have a pulse of 60. Ive heard varying pulse limits from 30secs to 45secs, which is longer then anybody would hit a .1 build. Myself and others are constantly in pulse on mech builds. I feel fine doing this but in no way am I saying go do this.
Listen to Nydille over me though especially if you havent read up on battery safety.
I skipped over the drama so I have no idea what Completely Average is up to this time, but don't you think any information you provide from that perspective is a bit not applicable?
The title is specifically for a Sigelei 150W, we should therefore consider continuous drain potential.
basically you need a 20 amp battery;
strictly speaking you need a 30 amp battery if you're using the full 150 watts.
3 volts x 20 amps = 60 watts.
2 batteries at 60 watts gives you 120 watts.
If you're vaping in the 50 to 100 watts region, 20 amp batteries should do.
If you're pushing the limits then you have to be more selective with the batteries and keep buying fresh batteries every 3 months.
Before I got my 20A LG HE2s I did some calculations based on the Atlantis V2 coils.
@ 0.5 ohms, you can go all out. @ 0.3 ohms, the battery can't support anything higher than 115W. Despite being regulated, i'd keep it safe and use it at <=100W.
Via steam engine:
0.3 ohm @ 115W = 19.58A / 5.87V
0.5 ohm @ 150W = 17.32A / 8.66V
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For funsies, @ 4.2V you would be hitting 100W on a 0.18 Ohm coil and drawing 23.81A.
F dat noize, i'm in the same boat.
Id be lying if I did I underood your point exactly... Funsies / Dat /noize/ random ohms/ etc...For funsies, @ 4.2V you would be hitting 100W on a 0.18 Ohm coil and drawing 23.81A.
F dat noize, i'm in the same boat.
I build around 0.3-1.5 pending the topper, anything near 80 is hot for me. 40-65w is my typical l range.
It doesn't matter what the resistance is when you're vaping in VW mode since the DC-DC regulator controls the mods output. Batteries do not change their voltage, the regulator takes battery output and changes the voltage to what is correct to keep the watts at set point for the resistance in the atty. What remains constant is power (watts) out from the batteries equals power out from the mod plus regulator inefficiency loss.
The Sigelei 150 has 2 batteries in series. Here is the Steam Engine battery drain calculator. Leave it set for 'power regulation (VW)', enter 2 ohms for 'Atomizer resistance', enter 100 watts for 'Power (wattage) setting' and make the 'Battery voltage' 6 volts (2 batteries in series so the volts add up) which is about the lowest they will ever be and amp draw will be the highest. In the 'Battery drain' window you'll see that battery drain current will be 18.52A each. Change the resistance to 0.1 ohm and battery draw stays at 18.52A. Increase the battery voltage to 8.4V as it will be with fresh batteries and you'll see battery amp draw has gone down to 13.23A each. I'm leaving battery voltage drop out of the equation at 8.4V, but it doesn't affect the outcome as we should be calculating at lowest voltage anyway for battery safety. Put the battery voltage back to 6V and enter 150 watts and the battery amp draw goes up to 27.78A.
So, 20A batteries will stay within continuous amp draw up to about 100 watts and 30A batteries up to about 150 watts with any resistance build you use.
This is of course not the way it works with mechanical mods or when setting volts in a regulated mod. Battery current draw with a mechanical is highest at 4.2V per battery so use 4.2V with a single battery mod for these calcs. In a VV mod use 3V for a single battery mod as that works the same as in VW. If you set this up in the calculator you'll see that the lower the resistance the higher the battery current draw becomes.
Hope this helps.
I thought commercial customers were getting VTC5s all through our dry spell, but I'm not sure about that.
I agree
. I also think the SX30 is a VTC4, but again I'm not sure. OTOH, there is no other 30A battery on the market at 2100 mAh that I know of.
I have one. Please see my post #9 in this thread for my answer to your question above. For an explanation of how to calculate battery amp draw in a VW mod, see my post #33 in this thread.
Got one here too. Run a dripper with big parallel coils, .25~ at 140-150 daily using VTC4s I got from Illumn.com. They're legit, last me around 24 hours or more unless I'm having a really bad day and they never get warmer than room temperature.
Illumn had the same info they sold out in 4 days but not before i got a dozen.I've read it. It's a straight copy and paste from a Reddit post made in August of last year.
Sony VTC5 18650 - Notice from Sony : electronic_cigarette
Now you may want to re-read what I wrote. I know of a NON-VAPE SHOP BATTERY SELLER that received a new shipment DIRECTLY FROM SONY last month.
This battery seller does NOT buy from 3rd party vendors. They buy directly from the manufacturers and ONLY from the manufacturers.
So unless Sony is now selling fakes themselves, these are real.
Oh, and for the record, if you go to the Orbtronic website, you'll find this....
IN STOCK! Sony VTC5 2600mAh 30A 18650 High Drain rechargeable battery 3.7V
Which includes this:
Sony absolutely is producing VTC5 batteries again.
They stopped because the main factory for vtc5's was in the area of the tsunami and radiation leak.
You don't have a local vape shop? The sonys aren't fake idk why someone would tell you that. The ones claiming to be 35+amps are the fake ones. You can't go wrong with the Sonys.
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