Help with the basics, please!

[SkbR]

Hello! I am extremely new to vaping and not entirely too sure if what I'm talking about is correct, so if you could correct me, I would greatly appreciate it!

I'm currently looking for pieces to create my own kit (set? mod?), and I wanted to know if it would be difficult to find the pieces below at a local vape shop and how expensive it would be to create such a kit/set/mod. My cousin, who has built and customized his own mod recommended me the following features for a kit:

• Mod (body) should accomodate 18650 Sony VTC batteries (along with XTAR MP1S charger)
• Drip atomizer should be built to accomodate cotton inside, if possible.
• Wire and cotton of the atomizer should be allocated to 1 ohm.
• Atomizer should have airflow control

Please enlighten me with any vaping knowledge you may have!
Thank you!

 

[iamthevoice]

Welcome! Those are the basics, but if you are entirely new to vaping, you might want to start up with a setup that does not require so much user knowledge. A simple starter kit gets you vaping faster, while you learn the ins and outs of the process, gear, industry, etc... Just my two cents!

Good luck, I'm sure you'll get lots of recommendations here!

 

[SkbR]

Thank you! I've only vaped for several weeks, but I have my cousin to guide me through it as well. I wanted to see other people's opinions on making such a build, and more specifically on the cost of creating such a kit.

 

[bobrob]

Welcome SkbR,

Just to clarify... are you looking for something that you can take home and vape, or parts that you can take home and build your own device (very advanced). I'm guessing that you are looking for a pre-built mod and an atomizer to go with it.

Pretty much any vape shop of any size would have a (pre-built) mod (the part that holds the battery, and the switch) that uses 18650 batteries. There are a ton of them. Ask them for a "mech mod" that can hold a 18650, they'll get you sorted.

The same thing applies to a drip atomizer, cotton, and wire. The shop can probably built your first coil for you in the dripper to 1 ohm, but you will probably want to do later ones yourself. Atomizers have different kinds of airflow control, so ask at the shop for what your are looking for.

In general, if you go into a nice vape shop, you should be able to get everything that you need, including some advice on how to use it. You need to know quite a bit about battery safety before you fire up a 1 ohm dripper on a mech mod safely.

Good luck!

 

[iamthevoice]

Bob has a good point; it's worth going into a local shop if you can, just to view a bunch of different gear, try out several juices and get some advice too. Once you're setup, you can make some online purchases. I just believe that helping out local businesses, especially vaping-related ones, only help spread this industry!

 

[SkbR]

Thank you for all the advice bobrob and iamthevoice!

May I ask about the battery safety regarding a 1 ohm dripper? I was told that 1 ohm delivers the best and safest results when it comes to vaping, but I might've heard wrong or forgotten some other details.

 

[bobrob]

May I ask about the battery safety regarding a 1 ohm dripper? I was told that 1 ohm delivers the best and safest results when it comes to vaping, but I might've heard wrong or forgotten some other details.

Well, your cousin recommended VTC batteries, which is good. You need to make sure that you test that dripper and that it really IS running at 1 ohm. I would think that 1 ohm is pretty low for a new vapor. I've been vaping a while and I don't build that low.

If the ohms are too low, or for some reason there is an electrical short in your coil builld, it can cascade fail the battery in your mech mod. This is a bad (and potentially dangerous) thing that could destroy your battery, your mod, or worse, your teeth!

I'm not trying to scare you at all, and to be honest I am far from an expert. 1 ohm is getting in that "danger level", so just know what the limitations of your battery are, and how to recognize and handle a problem if it happens.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

1 ohm used to be the lowest, safest setting. Newer batteries have higher amperage rates these days though, so you can go lower then 1 ohm. The lower you go, the more important airflow is however, so you'll do best with a dripper with adjustable air flow if you intend to go lower then 1 ohm. Make sure you have an ohm reader and a volt reader handy, or a good multimeter so you can test your equipment out. There are various ohms law calculators online. Enter the ohms of your coil and the voltage your battery can put out. The calculator will then give you the wattage and amperage. Make sure you are within the safe amperage limit of your battery and you should be fine. Beware of the purple Efest batteries. They advertise a 35 amp limit, but they're really only good for 20 amps. You're better off with Sony VTC 5 batteries.

 

[SkbR]

Thank you so much for the advice!
I'll definitely mention this when I head over to a vape shop.

Thanks so much again, bobrob and tinkiegrrl!

 

[gandymarsh]

I found this site that has a lot of good calculators. Scroll down to find info on specific batteries. Battery mAh & C Rating = amp Calculator

 

[Susan~S]

May I ask about the battery safety regarding a 1 ohm dripper? I was told that 1 ohm delivers the best and safest results when it comes to vaping, but I might've heard wrong or forgotten some other details.

Based on this question you are not ready for a mech mod or a rebuildable yet. You have not done your homework!

SAFETY is everything when it comes to operating a mech mod. Your cousin can't be around you 100% of the time and he/she has not given you any instruction on the safety aspect of mechanical devises (or you have not had time to process what it all really means).

If you are going to go down this road (without supervision and/or hands on instruction) you need to do a lot of reading and understand all that you have read. Below is a post by Baditude (our resident battery/safety expert).

To quote him: "Read up. It's homework time!"

Definition of a hard short

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
- choose the safest and right battery for your applications here. Includes a list of name brand, high-drain, safe-chemistry batteries with mAh & amp ratings in 18350, 18490/18500, and 18650 sizes.

Rechargeable Batteries
- blog post on the preferred chemistry of batteries for mods by our forum administrator and resident battery expert Rolygate.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries pt 1
- what do the letters & numbers on batteries mean? What's the difference between ICR, IMR, and hybrid batteries?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries pt 2
- protected vs unprotected batteries, what is Ohm's Law, inline battery fuses, what is an AW battery, stacking batteries.

Technical: Why High Drain Batteries?
- technical explanation on why high drain batteries are required for a regulated VV/VW battery device.

Question for the Tech Engineers at Provape
- explanation of battery amp limits, internal resistance, and battery chemistry pertaining to regulated VV/VW mods.

Battery Specifications and Calculators
- self explanatory.


How to Use Your Multimeter

Video on How to Use Your Multimeter

Ohm's Law Calculator

Information Resources for Your First RBA

Mechanical Mod Proper Useage Guide

 

[SkbR]

Thank you Susan~S!
Aside from battery safety, are there any other safety precautions that I should know when operating a mod?