Help with varying flavor, please

[Blackbeard]

I use an ego-t setup to vape with. I mostly vape Double RY4. My usual mix is 8% DRY4 in a 75/25 PG/VG resultant mix.

When it's good, you just can't beat the flavor of that DRY4, as many here can attest. But on occasion, the flavor seems to be lacking, even approaching what I'd call a burnt taste. The ego-T is a tank system, and this can happen in the middle of a tank, or any time actually. It doesn't seem to be attributed to how much juice is in the tank, condition of my battery or how quick I'm vaping. The flavor can be there one minute and the next it's gone, and the next few minutes, it's back.

The theory behind what might be causing this would appear to be my wick is not picking up the juice fast enough, although letting the device rest for a while doesn't seem to fix the problem.

Would using a thicker ratio help or hurt this? I'm considering going to 60/40 for the smoothness. I realize that this might cause the wick to absorb less in the same amount of time than if I were using 75/25, but does VG burn slower than PG once it's absorbed by the wick? I thought I had read where PG is the carrier of flavor, so going the thicker route doesn't make sense to me, but science works in strange ways.

So does anyone have a suggestion for my situation? I'm not going to change devices, because it works for me, so that's out. I use MFS nic, but will try WL once it's available. I just don't see what's causing this to happen.

Thanks for helpful suggestions.

 

[boomerdude]

Same here. I love DRY4 and I vape it almost every day. One minute it's great and the next pull taste like plain VG/PG. I've tried every combination available and the only set-up that gives me a good hit every time is a dripping atty. Now I love the RY4 but constantly adding 7 drops to a dripper is not something I enjoy doing for any length of time. The Kanger EVOD is pretty good but I only have the mini which goes quickly. Carto tanks, A7, Genesis, Vivi Novas, etc. all have the same problem in my experience. Cartos are the worst as I get the burnt taste along with the neutral taste. So Blackbeard I'm hoping someone else will chime in with a good recommendation as how to fix this problem.

 

[Blackbeard]

Sorry boomerdude, I guess I asked the question in such a confusing manner that nobody knows what I'm talking about. I do that a lot. I'm just glad someone understood what I was asking. I was afraid I was the only one messing that fine flavor up.

 

[boomerdude]

I wouldn't be surprised if you get no answer. But, the way things change so rapidly in the vaping world, you never know what next great thing is coming from around the corner.

 

[Hoosier]

I don't understand what's going on here. I just drip and don't have any problems with flavor.

 

[Blackbeard]

I don't understand what's going on here. I just drip and don't have any problems with flavor.

You get my age, I find I'm lucky to hit the commode, much less a drip tip. I'd still like someone to try and explain. Would thicker juice help or hurt (I'm guessing that's what Hoosier is implying)? Higher percentage of flavor(or maybe he's implying this)?

 

[Factor52]

I think its the Ego T system. It does that to me with any flavor.. try a real tank. like a vivi or even a clearo. I gave up on the T set up, you can still use the batteries though.. The other idea.... maybe tastebud fatigue? I switch up flavors during the day to keep by tastebuds from getting used to one flavor. (I dont know if that makes any sense, but it works for me)

 

[Hoosier]

Thicker juice is typically more difficult to wick.

The only thing I was implying was I cannot understand how someone can vape without great flavor because that is my primary.

I'm getting along in years, but can still cut a playing card in half with a single shot from a pistol, so while I think my eyes and hand steadiness is bad, I'm still better than most.

 

[Factor52]

You get my age, I find I'm lucky to hit the commode, much less a drip tip. I'd still like someone to try and explain. Would thicker juice help or hurt (I'm guessing that's what Hoosier is implying)? Higher percentage of flavor(or maybe he's implying this)?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/177551-pg-vg-peg.html

I'm assuming by thicker you mean more vg..

excerpt:
VG or vegetable glycerine or glycerol or propane-1,2,3, triol
•VG produces more vapor than PG.
•It produces less TH and does not present flavors as well.

 

[Blackbeard]

I think its the Ego T system. It does that to me with any flavor.. try a real tank. like a vivi or even a clearo. I gave up on the T set up, you can still use the batteries though.. The other idea.... maybe tastebud fatigue? I switch up flavors during the day to keep by tastebuds from getting used to one flavor. (I dont know if that makes any sense, but it works for me)

I switch flavors, but usually between one or two other flavors. They're different enough that I get the effect. The problem I'm seeing happens during one tank and not over the course of a few tanks with the same flavor. It can come and go and come back all through one tank.

I've tried an off-brand clearo, and it seemed to be worse than the tank. I'm not really up on the Vivi stuff, but considered a Mini Nova once. Maybe I'll try that. I'm not sure it's hardware completely.

Hoosier, my goal is for great flavor as well. I just don't think I could get used to dripping. There surely has to be some solution out there using most of the hardware I already have. I don't want to get back into that hardware-buying binge. I've already done that and ended up back where I started (sorta back where I started).

 

[GaLacTic]

I think it might have something to do with the coil getting hot spots do to age or bad wire wrapping. I normaly drip into a LR atty and get the same tast with diy and vender liquid but only after iv'e used the atty for a week or two. The burt taste is like a silica wick or fiberglass, it even smells like it taste.. im not familiar with an EGO t tank..

 

[boomerdude]

Have you tried a Kanger 3 or EVOD? For $6 they're worth a try. I still use my Ego T occasionally and you need to dry burn it to really get the burnt juice off the ss wick.

Upping the amount of flavor sometimes gives the opposite of what you want and turns a flavor neutral.

 

[BillLouisiana]

I use both attys and carto tanks (Welcome to Valley View Vapes - Your Home for Quality Inexpensive Tanks and Vaping Supplies ) and both work great. I use 70/30 in the tanks and 20/80 in the attys (that's PG/VG), and, of course, clean both regularly.. specially the attys.

 

[boomerdude]

Is that from a bench rest? At what range? I can't hit anything past 25 mtrs with a pistol, bench rest or not.

I'm getting along in years, but can still cut a playing card in half with a single shot from a pistol,

 

[Hoosier]

Is that from a bench rest? At what range? I can't hit anything past 25 mtrs with a pistol, bench rest or not.

15 feet. Modified Weaver stance. From 22LR to 10mm as long as the barrel is at least 4".

I am certified by BSA and NRA as a firearms instructor and I coach scouts in shooting accurately after I train them about safety and everything else important. That face when a scout shoots a card in half for the first time is just priceless. Shooting the knots off the bottom of a string is another thing that gets them to concentrate on sight picture and control. If I couldn't do these things, they would never believe that I can train them to do the same thing.

I'm not even the best shot of all the councilors, but I am the quickest. (Measured by time to put 6 holes in a quarter sized circle with a 6 round magazine.)

I could teach you to do the same thing, but the commute to class would be a killer for ya'.

 

[boomerdude]

I'm too much of an old dog to learn new tricks. Kid's in the military these days have computerized Barrets that adjust for range, windage, elevation and color of the target's boxer shorts. All we had in my time was a Weaver scope and a Springfield or Browning 30-.06.

It's good for the young folks to have qualified people teaching through showing, safety and marksmanship. My hat's off to you.

 

[papercrow]

The only thing I can think of is dehydration. I know when I don't drink enough I can't taste anything. Maybe try guzzling a glass of water when the flavor goes away?

 

[daveymist]

I would say hardware issues, lack of wicking that is why you are getting dry hits. My opinion.

 

[Factor52]

15 feet. Modified Weaver stance. From 22LR to 10mm as long as the barrel is at least 4".

I am certified by BSA and NRA as a firearms instructor and I coach scouts in shooting accurately after I train them about safety and everything else important. That face when a scout shoots a card in half for the first time is just priceless. Shooting the knots off the bottom of a string is another thing that gets them to concentrate on sight picture and control. If I couldn't do these things, they would never believe that I can train them to do the same thing.

I'm not even the best shot of all the councilors, but I am the quickest. (Measured by time to put 6 holes in a quarter sized circle with a 6 round magazine.)

I could teach you to do the same thing, but the commute to class would be a killer for ya'.

Sorry I'm off topic but couldnt resist..
Eagle Scout here.. As a kid at the BSA firing range at summer camp... We had the meanest, ornery, battle hardened, cussid, drill instructor from the old school that I had ever met up to that point in my life.. But you could be darn sure that every Scout knew all the rules and how to safely handle a firearm. Now all I can help but wonder what a hard-... you might be..

 

[unloaded]

Paintballs on golf tees make nice reactive targets. A little bigger than what you're using but the SPLAT is pretty satisfying. We drilled holes in the edge of a 2x4 to hold the tees. We were using .22lr rifles with scopes at 50yds. They would be fun with the pistols too.