Thanks, now pass me a White Russian
helping some one to start vaping
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Thanks, now pass me a White Russian
Check into the Mi-One. A nifty, super-small all in one device - you can use your preferred juice, it uses easy to find coils (ego AIO), very simple to operate having only a fire button, looks cool, hits great and has a nice long battery life. The downside is the cost at around $40 . .you could probably get something a little cheaper.
Failing that, my next go-to would be any single battery or small internal battery device with a nautilus 2 tank. That would probably cost more than $40 or very close but they'd be able to grow with it by getting new tanks, additional batteries, etc.
I've had the worst luck getting people into vaping. I tried with both my wife and MIL and failed. One guy I know got into vaping because of me but all I did was show him my egic and let him try it . . the very next day he had run out and gotten his own. So, yeah . .highly dependent on the person's motivation. I hear all kinds of crazy excuses from my wife . .it gives me hiccups, it makes me cough, too complicated, bad taste . .yada yada. Truthfully, there *IS* a little push you need to get through to get off the cigs . .it's not bad but if you're not motivated it's still pretty hard. Good luck and, if it doesn't take, keep trying!
Failing that, my next go-to would be any single battery or small internal battery device with a nautilus 2 tank. That would probably cost more than $40 or very close but they'd be able to grow with it by getting new tanks, additional batteries, etc.
I've had the worst luck getting people into vaping. I tried with both my wife and MIL and failed. One guy I know got into vaping because of me but all I did was show him my egic and let him try it . . the very next day he had run out and gotten his own. So, yeah . .highly dependent on the person's motivation. I hear all kinds of crazy excuses from my wife . .it gives me hiccups, it makes me cough, too complicated, bad taste . .yada yada. Truthfully, there *IS* a little push you need to get through to get off the cigs . .it's not bad but if you're not motivated it's still pretty hard. Good luck and, if it doesn't take, keep trying!
yes you guys are right the motivation is a large part of it I mean I started with and the little ecig thing was crap and I hated it I got the iJust2 thanks to a friend back in March with some good juice I still smoked for about a month but vapid as well being a smoker for 23 years and not sleeping much meant I had time when the battery needed a charge and I needed a smoke but my motivation was simple I could blow big clouds like the caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland and not have to carry around a hooka but then again I smoked because I liked to smoke I mostly smoked Cigars (CAO Cameroons mostly) but I also smoke a pipe, hooka and everyone's favorite little coffin nails. My friend has the motivation to try it out and that is at least step one right?
Kabuki 510 v1.5 Atomizer
The above is my favorite mtl tank that takes drop in coils.. (fasttech for a clone.. if they like it they can get the brand name themselves)
Second favorite is the nautilus mini.. although it's smaller in diameter than your i just, so I'd go with the Kabuki myself..
One I've not tried is the nautilus x.. you can also try the triton, those are reported to be good..
But my very favorite is the Kabuki for drop in.. get them that and they won't want anything else. The airflow is perfectly adjustable in case they want a bit more air than most mtl, and it can get tight too so it's very versatile, with top notch flavor.. better than anything I've tried for a drop in..
Are you in any of the flooded areas?
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No not in the flood we are in Fort Worth home to a ton of dumb asses who panicked about gas started hoarding and caused a run on the gas stations (like the Bank Runs of old)
We have runs on the store here when it snows.. every time I tell my husband that we need milk and bread he asks if it's snowing.. hahaha
yeah when the super bowl was a Jerry World and it snowed and I mean really snowed here in Texas we all the stores were empty of everything people panic way too much
I'm in the mountains here and people can get rather stuck at home sometimes... year before last my husband during one snow only made it halfway to work (going up the mountain) before he had to stop driving and walk the rest of the way..
Roads can get fairly bad sometimes.. but yeah, even if they are calling for an inch or two you have your stock up crowds. Lol..
But, we do have mountains to slide off the side of..
when it ices here it is like chicken little is running around yelling about the sky is falling a bit of ice and everyone stays home hell when it rains they drive like dumb asses like if the rain hits their car they will melt
I'm a little late here, but I'd recommend perhaps an Aspire Zelos kit which comes with the Nautilus 2 tank. You can get the 50 watt version quite inexpensively but you have to shop around and take advantage of sales. I have an aspire 75 kit as my backup mod, it's user friendly and very portable and easy to charge. The Nautilus 2 is a great workhorse MTL tank. I wouldn't go with an original kabuki, though it is a great tank, it's just extremely pricy. If you have the time to wait for a clone, you certainly could buy one from FT much less expensively but shipping may become an issue. Labor day sales may be your friend here...
Good luck, and good for you for trying to help a friend quit smoking!
Anna
Good luck, and good for you for trying to help a friend quit smoking!
Anna
yeah, I took a look at that and it cost more than my whole kit and getting some one to spend 100 bucks when they are unsure seems a bit out of the question.
They do make clones on fasttech, and I ordered one as my backup tank for $9, but it hasn't arrived yet, and since it's direct from China, it will likely be a while. I hear they don't match the awesomeness of the originals, but I guess I will be finding out.
I actually don't love the Kabuki for a new user as it's a bit difficult to refill for a new user... It's not exactly HARD, but esp. with a clone I would wonder about the bottom fill and whether the O rings really sealed well, and while I LOVE the airflow (you set it and forget it with an allen wrench) there are a lot of things that make it not the best for beginners. I think the Nautilus 2 is a great tank in a lot of ways, it uses the same coils, and it's cheap. I'm a fan of Aspire products generally, but especially for reliability/usability, I have two of them and they are what got me OFF cigarettes, so they hold a very special place in my heart, LOL.
Anna
I actually don't love the Kabuki for a new user as it's a bit difficult to refill for a new user... It's not exactly HARD, but esp. with a clone I would wonder about the bottom fill and whether the O rings really sealed well, and while I LOVE the airflow (you set it and forget it with an allen wrench) there are a lot of things that make it not the best for beginners. I think the Nautilus 2 is a great tank in a lot of ways, it uses the same coils, and it's cheap. I'm a fan of Aspire products generally, but especially for reliability/usability, I have two of them and they are what got me OFF cigarettes, so they hold a very special place in my heart, LOL.
Anna
I think most vape shops, and even vape people make the process WAY more complicated than it needs to be. At the same time, dont give the right information.
A simple Mod, with a air flow control is about all one needs imho. If your gonna help get someone started, then really, you need to help them, and keep it simple.
With my gf I got her a simple mod, helped her set it up so it was as close to the "feel" of a cig for her. First was the air control, and she found pretty much closed worked for her for the lung hit, after that, started at about 20 W, then let her adjust it for what she felt was the best taste.
I started her on 18 mg, and explained about 5 min of vaping=1 Cig. Try and keep it down to a cig an hour, and just a quick hit or two if you get to antsy.
Everyone wants to worry about what machine, and what coil and bla bla bla. Vaping is not something you wanna use to replace smoking, you wanna use it to quit smoking. Like a smokable nicotine patch.
I failed my first attempt, I let the vape shop talk me into starting with the nic content WAY to low. When I bought my machine, and even talking to some vape people, NO one suggested setting up the machine so it hits, and feels like your smoking a cig.
Most of that I had to figure out myself. I did so by smoking a cig, then wait a while, then adjust my vape machine. Took me half a day to get it dialed in. No vape shop, or vape guy talks about that.
So this month, I do 18 mg, in 30 days, drop to 12 , and so on and so on. Get to 0 and Quit.
A simple Mod, with a air flow control is about all one needs imho. If your gonna help get someone started, then really, you need to help them, and keep it simple.
With my gf I got her a simple mod, helped her set it up so it was as close to the "feel" of a cig for her. First was the air control, and she found pretty much closed worked for her for the lung hit, after that, started at about 20 W, then let her adjust it for what she felt was the best taste.
I started her on 18 mg, and explained about 5 min of vaping=1 Cig. Try and keep it down to a cig an hour, and just a quick hit or two if you get to antsy.
Everyone wants to worry about what machine, and what coil and bla bla bla. Vaping is not something you wanna use to replace smoking, you wanna use it to quit smoking. Like a smokable nicotine patch.
I failed my first attempt, I let the vape shop talk me into starting with the nic content WAY to low. When I bought my machine, and even talking to some vape people, NO one suggested setting up the machine so it hits, and feels like your smoking a cig.
Most of that I had to figure out myself. I did so by smoking a cig, then wait a while, then adjust my vape machine. Took me half a day to get it dialed in. No vape shop, or vape guy talks about that.
So this month, I do 18 mg, in 30 days, drop to 12 , and so on and so on. Get to 0 and Quit.
Yes for me Vaping is something I have used to replace smoking, and that is what I wanted. I did not smoke for over half my life because I thought it made me look cool I did it because I enjoy it. For people who use vaping to quit everything good for them but I am not one of them. I picked up vaping quite honestly due to the fact it cost me a hell of a lot less than smoking. Due to medical issues (not related to smoking), I am retired money is more of an issue so now I get my 18 mg by spending around 40 bucks a month instead of 175.
I too am not thinking of replacing vaping anytime soon. Vaping (for me) is a harm reduction device, and while I can see the rationale of lowering nic percentages over time, even getting to zero, I doubt I will do so for several reasons: 1) I've seen people returning after "quitting" vaping and then returning to smoking, and I have No Doubt that would happen to me. For me, the idea of SIMPLY switching to vaping was so overwhelming in the beginning that I am simply *thrilled* to only be vaping, reducing my risks a great deal, and whatnot. I told myself that if I were ever able to "make the switch" as it were, I wouldn't pressure myself to stop vaping, ever. B) While heart disease runs in my family and it's my understanding that nicotine use can *slightly* elevate risk of heart disease etc., my heart health generally is surprisingly good and that's the least of my worries. If I drop dead of a heart attack at some point, fine with me. Also, Alzheimer's and ADHD run in my family, and nicotine has been shown, in some studies I believe, to lessen the risk of Alzheimer's, and having seen my granny go that way-- no thanks. Also, even if I could wean myself off nicotine, which I imagine I could, I wouldn't have the "organizing" factor of nicotine to help me out with that, and it's actually pretty powerful as I have tried quitting or reducing in the past.
With that said, if anyone wants to use an e-cig to transition to 0 nic and then quit, who am I to say that's a bad idea? I'd just avoid blanket statements, though, e-cigs are not always used as transitional devices for quitting, many people are now using them as a harm reduction products for the long term. I have to say, I've found my three (almost) months of vaping to be way more enjoyable than the 6 months I spent chewing nicotine gum, and it was less expensive, too, AND I went back to smoking once I tapered off them, as well. I'm just happy to have found a harm reduction device I can use-- and enjoy-- far more than smoking that will afford me *many but not all* of the harm reduction of not smoking, while still enjoying vaping. So, just as I don't say YOU must use vaping to eventually quit, it's not helpful to make blanket statements about what e-cigs "should" be used for. If I were told vaping would only be of use to me for a few months as I "tapered" my nicotine, I wouldn't have found them appealing *at all*.
Just my 02. cents.
Anna
With that said, if anyone wants to use an e-cig to transition to 0 nic and then quit, who am I to say that's a bad idea? I'd just avoid blanket statements, though, e-cigs are not always used as transitional devices for quitting, many people are now using them as a harm reduction products for the long term. I have to say, I've found my three (almost) months of vaping to be way more enjoyable than the 6 months I spent chewing nicotine gum, and it was less expensive, too, AND I went back to smoking once I tapered off them, as well. I'm just happy to have found a harm reduction device I can use-- and enjoy-- far more than smoking that will afford me *many but not all* of the harm reduction of not smoking, while still enjoying vaping. So, just as I don't say YOU must use vaping to eventually quit, it's not helpful to make blanket statements about what e-cigs "should" be used for. If I were told vaping would only be of use to me for a few months as I "tapered" my nicotine, I wouldn't have found them appealing *at all*.
Just my 02. cents.
Anna
I fully agree and well there is also the factor that my use of nicotine saves lives or at least people from broken noses, I get stressed and want to punch someone in the face for being a dumb ... I just have a bit of nicotine, and blow the frustration away in a nice big cloud.
I did not start vaping to quit smoking. Just got lucky & loved vaping once I discovered sub ohm vapes. I will probably not quit or lower nic. Found my happy vape place & am very comfortable here.
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