Hey Guys , New Vape Set Up Question

[RobbieVap]

Hey everyone I'm new here !

So I've been one month cigarette free after smoking for 5 years and it feels amazing , so glad I've started vaping .
The thing is I've done this through using the green smoke E cigs , and my carts are almost gone and I wanted to move to something a little better with more variety for flavors / bigger smoke clouds
I'm not talking about anything like Provaria ( which I really know nothing about , only it's very popular )

I wanted to know if anyone could point me in where to start and what I'll be needing and maybe some websites to look through ?

I've heard of all these eGo / Star dust / vivi mini etc. and it's all a little overwhelming , i don't know what kind of carts these use . really what the difference between an atomizer or cartomizer is , how these charge , anything about all this volt / ohm conversion talk or pg/vg , besides maybe only basic knowledge of what the acronyms stand for

Would anyone be able to to post their set-up and why you have what you have and what it's needed for or how it fits your preferences , even possibly a link of items to order that I wont regret ?

I'd really appreciate it , thanks guys

 

[Daniel13]

i'm in the same boat you're in, just starting out i've got 2 e cigs and i'm planning on keeping them cause they're small and fit in my fifth pocket. but at home i want something big and obnoxious.

 

[RobbieVap]

That's exactly what I want to do , I'll bring my Greensmoke to work and school etc , but at home I want to blow some atomic vapor clouds . I'm looking at Altsmoke.com now and have no idea what a 650maH battery is compared to others , what types of carts would fit it , or what else I'd need to get it work or even how these things charge lol . Theres so much :x

 

[kiwivap]

There are a number of good set ups. I used Greensmoke for a while, so I can relate to what you're saying. I'm using Smokeless Image - the smaller Volts and the fatt batt X2:



Click on the pic for a bigger view. Left - 78mm Volt. Right - 900 mah X2. This suits me because the 78mm Volts are discreet for paces I have to go during the week. The X2 is great for at home, weekends, and around people I'm more comfortable with. It also last longer between charges.

I expect you'll be recommended variable voltage, such as the EGO twist. This KGO variable voltage is getting good reviews - KGO V.V. 650mAh
People who have used both are tending to favor the KGO more.

 

[The Ocelot]

I started with Green Smoke, which I sent back after a week. I knew after 3 drags I could quit smoking using it, but I wanted something more. I started with an eGo kit (the regular kind, not the T or C). I feel it was a good way to start. It has 510 threads, so most of the more advanced toys will fit on it. You can spend a ton on Twists, Provaris, etc., but I figured that if I started there, I wouldn't have anything to move up to. I also didn't have a lot of money. This is what I started with: Joye eGo kit in matte black You can buy these kits anywhere, but I liked the customers service at Vapor Kings. They answered my noob questions promptly and didn't make me feel like an idiot. I have since added a Stardust Tank and a Vivi min nova. I like toys, but have a limited budget, so I'm saving the more advanced things for the future.

ETA: I also have a couple of Green Smart Living (basically the same as Green Smoke) that I take out with me when I don't want to vape in pubic and have everyone and his brother want to try it. Look dude, when you buy me a ring and rent the reception hall, you can put your mouth on my tip...

 

[alilallal]

I would suggest trying out the ego twist with standard res cartos and a smoketech tank. A lot of vapor and flavor and this setup wont cost you too much.

 

[kiwivap]

That's exactly what I want to do , I'll bring my Greensmoke to work and school etc , but at home I want to blow some atomic vapor clouds . I'm looking at Altsmoke.com now and have no idea what a 650maH battery is compared to others , what types of carts would fit it , or what else I'd need to get it work or even how these things charge lol . Theres so much :x

Ok - keeping it simple - mah is how you can tell battery use time between charges. 1 mah = approx. 1 hour of use. So 650 mah should give you about 6.5 hours of actual vaping. It doesn't always work out exactly like that - but more mah means more time between charges. My 900 mahs go for about 8-9 hours before charging.

 

[RobbieVap]

Kiwivap - would you care explaining , the difference when you say "left 78 mm colt , right 900 mah X2" ? is it the strength of the batteries hence stronger battery obviously bigger size ? And for something like you're talking about ( The EGO twist and KGO , how much battery life do you get out of those ?

The Ocelot - Lol really ? personally it works pretty well but I definitely know I want an upgrade . Would you mind explaining the difference between ego , ego c and t , what a " tank " is , and a vivi min nova ? Lol the lingo is rough getting used to and theres only so much google helps with all this other useless information coming up .
I have some money put away so its really not an issue ( i really wouldn't like to go over 100 though ).

Another thing is when ypu say 510 threads , I know thats the size of wherever you'd screw anything into the battery , so anything with 510 threads would fit into the eGo ?

Sorry for the cluelessness , and thank you

 

[Herdo]

Forgive me if there is a rule against linking to other forums. I looked over the rules again, but didn't see anything that mentioned this being against the rules.

That being said, I wrote a small guide two weeks ago to help new vapers get their footing. It breaks down the basics of just about everything you need to know.

You can check it out here. http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/ywa6z/guide_for_newbies_from_a_newbie_sort_of/

I hope this helps!

 

[RobbieVap]

Lol thanks Kiwi you beat me to it . I think I'll check out the Ego twist , thats what I've been seeing a lot of . Any reccomendation on a reputable website to look around and all that you mentioned , alilallal ?

 

[kiwivap]

Kiwivap - would you care explaining , the difference when you say "left 78 mm colt , right 900 mah X2" ? is it the strength of the batteries hence stronger battery obviously bigger size ? And for something like you're talking about ( The EGO twist and KGO , how much battery life do you get out of those ?

Ok - in the pic both are batteries from Smokeless Image. They use 808 threading. The Volt is the small one - it's 78 mm long and 320 mah (last me 2.5 - 3 hours of actual vaping). The X2 is the bigger one - 900 mah - lasts me 8-9 hours of actual vaping. I can use 808 threaded cartomizers, clearomizers etc with them.

The Ego or KGO are similar size to the X2, but different threading. With those - look at the mah. That's how long they should last between charges.

Then voltage - a straight Ego is 3.4 volts. An X2 is regulated at 3.7 - which is better.
Variable voltage means you can adjust the voltage - getting a warmer vape with juices you want that way. Of the basic variable voltage the KGO vv is currently being favored over the Ego twist by quite a few people. The KGO vv is 650 mah - so should be 5-6.5 hours of actual vaping.

You don't need to start with variable voltage tho.

The reason I mentioned Smokeless Image is that if you get the small batts and a big one you can use the same cartomizers, clearomizers with both - the this will work out much cheaper than Greensmoke. My biggest issue with Greensmoke was they are so over-priced.

 

[The Ocelot]

Let's see if I have this right (if I don't I'm sure someone will jump in). 510 refers to the thread size. eGos are 510, but they can be used with other threads if an adaptor is used. The eGo C & T have to do with different cart/atty set-ups (I skipped those due to pro/con reviews). Tanks have attys and carts built in and hold more juice. Stardusts and Vivi Novas are kinds of tanks. I'm not good at explaining (and again, I'm not sure I'm right). I found these videos very helpful:

E-Cig 101 - Class 1 - What Do I Order First? - YouTube
E-Cig 101 - Class 2 - Attys, Refills, & Dripping - YouTube

FYI: The "Yeti" kit he talks about is the same as the eGo 510 kit. For my 2 cents, I didn't like altsmoke. They never answered my emails when I had questions.

 

[dawnwynne]

Hi Robbie,

For me what works well is simply an Ego Twist and Stardust (vision) cartomiser. I'm not an expert but have used many different things and this setup is the most convenient one for me and suits me well.

I'll let someone else tell you the difference between all the others because I'm really not that technical! lol

Good luck whatever you direction you choose to go in. Also just reminded me there are tons of reviews on youtube of most products with pbusardo being one of my favourites...so it may be worth a look

 

[kiwivap]

Let's see if I have this right (if I don't I'm sure someone will jump in). 510 refers to the thread size. eGos are 510, but they can be used with other threads if an adaptor is used.

Yep. You can use adapters both ways - a 510/808, or an 808/510. There are others too. If you get a good set up you prolly don't need to tho - not for a while anyways.

 

[recidivus]

I just spent all this time typing out a reply, go to advanced to add attachment and you guys got it covered....foiled again.

So I'll just say hello and welcome to ECF, folks here are great at helping others get started and understanding what's what.

It's really not as bad as it all seems, it can be as basic or complicated as you want it to be.

 

[tidegirl]

I have been vaping 9 months. Started with the ego. Moved to a variable volt mod, seen below. I just got a Volt kit, and I am super impressed with it. It puts out as much vapor as my mod, but it is cig size like what you are used to. This is the kit that I got:

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Standard Starter Kit - Starter Kits

Since this will be your main system, you may want to upgrade to a kit with a portable charging case: Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Pro Starter Kit - Starter Kits or Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Premium Starter Kit - Starter Kits. I would also recommend getting the 78mm battery over the 65 mm for just $1 more per batt. It will give you a good bit more battery time.

Don't worry about the lingo, you will pick it up quickly. And a helpful hint there: if the abbreviation has dotted lines under it, like ECF should have in this post (hope it works lol) you can hover your mouse over it and it will tell you what it stands for.

As for the 78 mm vs. 900 mah- yes, besides the size the difference is battery life. The 78 mm is 300-something mah, so it will last about 3 hours. The 900 mah will last about 9 hours. That is actual vaping time, so of course how long they last in real time depends on how much you vape. For reference I started with 2 650 mah egos. The 2 of them would last me all day, each being charged once a day, and I vape pretty heavily.

 

[tidegirl]

I just spent all this time typing out a reply, go to advanced to add attachment and you guys got it covered....foiled again.

I know what you mean... 6 posts in the time I was typing.

 

[RobbieVap]

Wow what a great community , so many answers so quickly , thanks so much everyone .
I decided if I'm going to invest , I'll shell out a little more and go with the eGo twist / Stardust combo . I was looking through the list of forum suppliers and I want to know , if you were to order a Ego T / Stardust , what website would you use ?
And then other question , is what else would I need along side these ? And how would I know what types of "juice " would work , or any recomendations for websites / Also I believe the stardust "tank " , or any tank for that matter is refilable , where carts or not . Are carts compatiable with this as well , and if so , any preferences on websites for everything I'lll be needing ?

you guys are great thanks so much for everyone who's helped

 

[kiwivap]

Just thought I'd mention - don't confuse battery size with vapor clouds. The amount of vapor comes from your juice ratio - the PG/VG. A lot of juices default at PG/VG 80/20 or 70/30 - which gives a good amount of vapor. VG causes most of the vapor. A high VG ratio means a thick juice - which can clog things up if not thinned down.

Also - all of the devices mentioned in the replies here can use refillable cartomizers - and refilling is really easy. You can buy cartomizers prefilled and then refill with that flavor, or buy blank ones and fill with a juice you've chosen. This doesn't lock you into one juice supplier (another issue I had with Greensmoke who don't sell bottles of juice).

 

[kiwivap]

Also I believe the stardust "tank " , or any tank for that matter is refilable , where carts or not . Are carts compatiable with this as well , and if so , any preferences on websites for everything I'lll be needing ?

you guys are great thanks so much for everyone who's helped

Just posted on this - cartomizers are refillable.

Here's how to do it: Can I Refill My Cartomizers?