Hey Guys , New Vape Set Up Question

[recidivus]

You can get them from the same site you linked! Cartomizers

Most cartos you will buy will not be prefilled, generally speaking. If they are prefilled they will say, if they don't say then 99% I'd guess they are blanks.

Carto-tanks are a cylindrical container that holds juice, usually with a cartomizer put down the middle (that has had a hole or two or 3 punched into it) that gets "refilled" from the tank reservoir.

Pic:

Bottom left is a carto-tank, top right on the black PV is a vivi-tank. The metal tube down the middle of the carto-tank is an oversized cartomizer (with flange on base to stop it from slipping off, that's important).

There's also clearomizers or vivi novas tanks that have a different feed/coil set up. They use wicks to draw liquid onto a coil.


I could be completely mistaken, I'm far from expert and the terminology can get confusing at times.

 

[kiwivap]

Is it cheaper to order the battery and the charger and the rest of the parts individually , or should I get that starter kit and buy myself one of the VV batts to go with it

I'd say get the kit, and then get vv if you want it now or later. Two 1100mahs will keep you plenty happy. The wall charger from the kit can be used with the vv. The vv comes with its own charger cord.

 

[RobbieVap]

Now with the kgo kit im about to order , im getting one VV with it . Now next thing To look for are the carts.

Boge 3.2ohm SR 510 cartomizers 5 pack

Now I'm going to get the 5 of those , how long does each cart last ? Like how many refills before you use a new one , is it just preference? Also could someone explain to me the difference between single and dual coil , and how the " ohms " come into play?

And also maybe what on earth this thing is lol Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Mega

 

[The Ocelot]

This one looks almost the same, only the carts are empty and it comes with a drip tip. A bottle of juice and you're good to go. You can add a vv battery later. SLB KGO Starter Kit

 

[kiwivap]

This one looks almost the same, only the carts are empty and it comes with a drip tip. A bottle of juice and you're good to go. You can add a vv battery later. SLB KGO Starter Kit

It's out of stock.

 

[recidivus]

If you're not getting a Variable volt you don't want 3.2 Ohm. You'll be better with 1.8 - 2.4ish. 3.2 won't give you much vapour at all without increasing the volts.

Here's a chart that will show you the volts ranges by resistance.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2006/unled66.jpg

And also maybe what on earth this thing

THAT is a vivi nova clearomizer/tank thingy, same as my second picture.

 

[The Ocelot]

You're going to make yourself crazy. You're asking questions about products in debate - one camp likes one thing, and another hates it. It's all subjective. For my two cents, you should get something basic, so you can be vaping while you figure the rest of it out. There's something to be said for trying to find "The Best" since you're laying out good money, but at this point, you don't know what you like.

 

[kiwivap]

Now with the kgo kit im about to order , im getting one VV with it . Now next thing To look for are the carts.

Boge 3.2ohm SR 510 cartomizers 5 pack

Now I'm going to get the 5 of those , how long does each cart last ?

That varies. On average - I do between 5-8 refills, depending on my juice. A carto is about 10 cigs - or so they say. I haven't stopped to work it out.

Also could someone explain to me the difference between single and dual coil , and how the " ohms " come into play?

I don't recommend dual coils myself. There's a thread here which explains it in more detail: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sed-about-ohms-voltages-dual-coil-cartos.html

And also maybe what on earth this thing is lol Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Mega

A bigger clearomizer. It holds 3.5ml of liquid. You'd need to have a juice you like for this.

 

[RobbieVap]

Recidivus , thanks , but could you explain what the ohms actually or for , and why I wouldn't get much vapor from a 3.2 as opposed to 1.8 ? So I'm assuming I'd get the most vapor from 1.8 , and if so then why would I get a 2.4 lol , and lastly why did you mention the VV , is that because if i turned it up to 6 volts I'd get more vapor ? I just don't understand the whole ohm concept or why ohms even change on the carts . I think I'm all set , all I need to do is find juice ! thanks so much for the help guys <33333

edit: Also , whats a drip tip for , like the the other guy mentioned in the link to the starter kit he posted ( which is oos . )
And are there any websites for juice you guys reccomend , or any juices in speciffic ? i don't really have a preference , something on the sweeter side i suppose . would love opinions

 

[kiwivap]

You're going to make yourself crazy. You're asking questions about products in debate - one camp likes one thing, and another hates it. It's all subjective. For my two cents, you should get something basic, so you can be vaping while you figure the rest of it out. There's something to be said for trying to find "The Best" since you're laying out good money, but at this point, you don't know what you like.

I think he's picked a good kit and adding vv is a plus. I'd say get the smaller clearomizer to try, the SR cartomizers - and then we can talk juice.

 

[kiwivap]

edit: Also , whats a drip tip for , like the the other guy mentioned in the link to the starter kit he posted ( which is oos . )

It's a mouthpice to draw through, and you can use them to drip juice through. That's all. They feel nicer to vape on.

 

[The Ocelot]

It's out of stock.

I didn't see that. It might take a little googling to find it or something similar: http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&product_id=437&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&pop=0

 

[recidivus]

Roughly, with lower resistance coil you need less volts to achieve higher watts. Watts = heat. More resistance you need more volts (but less amps?) to produce that same heat. I'm not terribly electrically inclined, I use that chart and a calculator to find a baseline and adjust my voltage to taste. With VV you can change your voltage in increments, rather than a single voltage that doesn't change.

You may want 2.4 because you may prefer a cooler vape, it's personal taste.

If you were to try 6v on a 1.8 Ohm coil you would burn it out, promptly. Too much voltage (regardless of resistance) and it would taste horrid because it's burning the juice/filler/coil rather than vapourizing. Some juices also work better at different watts. It can get a little finicky once you start playing with different volts/ohms, as you can see.

There's other people much better at explaining this than I am (and who have had more sleep).

I can recommend getting an RY4, it's a regular go to for new folks.. It is tobacco based, but has caramels and vanilla added and is on the sweeter side. Different vendors accentuate it differently, some favour vanilla some tobacco some caramel. I got mine from Maple Leaf Vapes and it was on the sweet/caramel side.

 

[kiwivap]

I can recommend getting an RY4, it's a regular go to for new folks.. It is tobacco based, but has caramels and vanilla added and is on the sweeter side. Different vendors accentuate it differently, some favour vanilla some tobacco some caramel. I got mine from Maple Leaf Vapes and it was on the sweet/caramel side.

We're onto juice already?
At this point I'd recommend going to the e-liquid forum on ECF: General E-Liquid Discussion

This thread could get mighty long...

 

[recidivus]

Good point. Long as the hardware is sorted, there's people in liquid section who don't frequent these waters often...(didn't see your post as I was still writing mine )

 

[RobbieVap]

Lol kiwi I might as well be on to the juices right ?
So heres what It looks like right now

KGO kit 1100mAh
KGO VV battery 3.0 - 6.0 volt
EGO Vision clearomizers1.8-2.0ohm Long wick Very low resistance
EGO Vision clearomizers 2.1-2.4ohm Long Wick Low Resistance
Boge 3.2ohm SR 510 cartomizers 5 pack

I wanted to try a clearomizer so I'm trying those to see how I like the resistances.
are the 3.8 v KGO enough volts to work well with the Boge carts ?
And that's everything I need so far right , just juice to fill it up ?

Any other reccomendations of anything I should grab ? About 20 -25 bucks still left in the budget

Edit : Also , difference between Atomizers , and cartomizers ? ( I assume cartidges are the prefilled disposable ones like I use with my green smoke )

 

[kiwivap]

Lol kiwi I might as well be on to the juices right ?
So heres what It looks like right now

KGO kit 1100mAh
KGO VV battery 3.0 - 6.0 volt
EGO Vision clearomizers1.8-2.0ohm Long wick Very low resistance
EGO Vision clearomizers 2.1-2.4ohm Long Wick Low Resistance
Boge 3.2ohm SR 510 cartomizers 5 pack

I wanted to try a clearomizer so I'm trying those to see how I like the resistances.
are the 3.8 v KGO enough volts to work well with the Boge carts ?
And that's everything I need so far right , just juice to fill it up ?

Any other reccomendations of anything I should grab ? About 20 -25 bucks still left in the budget

Ditch the very low resistance and low resistance clearomizers and get one or more of these: Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Slim

It comes with changeable heads -1.8, 2.4 and 2.8 ohms. you can use a different head depending on voltage. Also not likely to leak. You can get replaceable parts and changing them is easy.

And yes - 3.8 is fine for SR cartomizers.

 

[The Ocelot]

You'll need some e-liquid, then you can spend the rest on pizza. With that set-up, you won't be going anywhere for awhile...

 

[RobbieVap]

Lol ocelot awesome . Now for the E-Liquids , on the hoosier websites I see they have 3 kinds ,USA made , DIY ( do it yourself i assume ? I don't know how that'd even work , and then Dekang . Are these good.. brands ? Any kinds you guys could definately either steer me torwards , or away from ?

Edit - + Kiwivap and Recidivus , thanks a lot for your help guys ! I'll pay it forward one day haha . Man it feels good being smoke free , nice being able to breathe and smell again .

Edit 2 - Okay looks like the USA made it'll be unless you guys tell me what brands are good . I'm not going t start mixing any , and the Dekang china only comes in 50 mL bottles . So should I go with those USA made flavors , if so , any reccomendation?

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Lol kiwi I might as well be on to the juices right ?
So heres what It looks like right now

KGO kit 1100mAh
KGO VV battery 3.0 - 6.0 volt
EGO Vision clearomizers1.8-2.0ohm Long wick Very low resistance
EGO Vision clearomizers 2.1-2.4ohm Long Wick Low Resistance
Boge 3.2ohm SR 510 cartomizers 5 pack

I wanted to try a clearomizer so I'm trying those to see how I like the resistances.
are the 3.8 v KGO enough volts to work well with the Boge carts ?
And that's everything I need so far right , just juice to fill it up ?

Any other reccomendations of anything I should grab ? About 20 -25 bucks still left in the budget

Edit : Also , difference between Atomizers , and cartomizers ? ( I assume cartidges are the prefilled disposable ones like I use with my green smoke )

Hi Robbie. Bullette the Kgo fan here.
Note on those Boge cartomizers:
Boge 3.2 ohm may work fine on your variable volt battery but they definately won't give you ANY vapor on the regular Kgo 1100 mah battery.
Here's what I use on my Kgo 1100 mah:
Either Boge LR 2.0 ohm cartomizers or
Smoketech 1.7 ohm cartomizers.
I have been happy with this setup for 6 months now. I like cartomizers cuz they are easy. No leaks no cracks no burnt taste.
Good luck.