Hi All, I am from Shanghai

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sofarsogood

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Here in china, there is still no regulation to restrict vaping, we can buy on Alibaba, there are many e-cig flagshop, buyers can buy in easy way. I am worried since more people switch to vaping, the government will get some stress from the cig vendors, there might be some regulations. but in any case, I do believe e-cig is the trend, why do we have to stop a product can save millions people's lives.
I have read that China has lots of smokers and fewer switching to vaping compared to some other nations. Do you think vaping could go viral and grow rapidly there?
 

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Also, forgot to mention, a lot of it is aversion therapy (Alan Carr) like collecting all your cigarette butts from the day before in a ziplock bag then smelling it first thing in the a.m. before smoking... (mmmm.... smelled delicious to me, LOL) with some pretty strong motivational enhancement. They aren't the best techniques for behavior change, but they aren't totally ineffective either. What I found gimmicky was his writing style, not necessarily his techniques.

POSITIVE reinforcement is a much more powerful tool, which (IMHO) is why vaping works. You do get the positive reinforcement of nicotine, but additionally flavors, the ability to select equipment, the pleasure in learning new things (natural human tendency, IMO), and the enjoyment of success. Positive reinforcement is a much more powerful tool for ongoing behavior change, which is why vaping is successful for many folks, encouragement, education, and support are also powerful methods of positive reinforcement which is why ECF can be such a helpful site, and that's why I love vaping! I've gotten to the point where I can be self-reinforcing through cravings, oral surgery, and everything else. Vaping kind of builds on itself, once people start achieving success, again IMO.

Okay, climbing off the Behavioral chain analysis of cold turkey versus vaping, starting.... Now. :)

Anna
 

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It's nice to share my vaping stories with you, Vaping is emerging in the downtowns, as more and more people are eager to quit smoking, Vaping is one of the best alternatives to stop smoking and maintain nicotine consumption. Wish you all with healthy life.
Welcome and glad you joined.
I like your attitude, health is "number one" in riches we have.
Might like to read:
Are Electronic Cigarettes Safe?
 

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congratulations! Really strong will. Are you sticky for vaping now? is there any nicotine-contained e-liquid for vaping?
thank you.. I'm sticking with it.. currently I'm vaping 24 mg/ml nicotine.. I'm a mtl vapor don't care bout chucking clouds..
 

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Recently, I am reading a book written by ALLEN CARR: <<Easy Way to Stop Smoking>>, which is very interesting, is there any of you have read the book?

I read it; it didn't work for me so I vape instead.
The same story for millions of people. That's why vaping is great... in a way you haven't quit, you have swapped to a much less dangerous product. :thumb:
 

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I have read that China has lots of smokers and fewer switching to vaping compared to some other nations. Do you think vaping could go viral and grow rapidly there?
I do believe so, we can see the emerging market for vaping now, there are growing number of e-cig sales on Taobao (Alibaba), compared with cig, e-cig is much much more healthy.
 

sofarsogood

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I do believe so, we can see the emerging market for vaping now, there are growing number of e-cig sales on Taobao (Alibaba), compared with cig, e-cig is much much more healthy.
It would be a very good thing if Chinese smokers embrace vaping in large numbers. Hopefully it helps that the US FDA is taking a softer approach.

By the way your english is very good. Are you a native speaker or did you learn it in school or do you work some place where there are native speakers?
 

Samuel LAW

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Also, forgot to mention, a lot of it is aversion therapy (Alan Carr) like collecting all your cigarette butts from the day before in a ziplock bag then smelling it first thing in the a.m. before smoking... (mmmm.... smelled delicious to me, LOL) with some pretty strong motivational enhancement. They aren't the best techniques for behavior change, but they aren't totally ineffective either. What I found gimmicky was his writing style, not necessarily his techniques.

POSITIVE reinforcement is a much more powerful tool, which (IMHO) is why vaping works. You do get the positive reinforcement of nicotine, but additionally flavors, the ability to select equipment, the pleasure in learning new things (natural human tendency, IMO), and the enjoyment of success. Positive reinforcement is a much more powerful tool for ongoing behavior change, which is why vaping is successful for many folks, encouragement, education, and support are also powerful methods of positive reinforcement which is why ECF can be such a helpful site, and that's why I love vaping! I've gotten to the point where I can be self-reinforcing through cravings, oral surgery, and everything else. Vaping kind of builds on itself, once people start achieving success, again IMO.

Okay, climbing off the Behavioral chain analysis of cold turkey versus vaping, starting.... Now. :)

Anna
As far as I know, to quit smoking with cold turkey, the failure rate is very high, only 3~4% succeed. This is why make so many people frustrated. I bought two Alan Carr's book for two of my friends, they are also heavy smokers, around 30 pieces in one day. in any case, I also encourage them to switch to e-cig. Your story is very interesting:thumb:
 

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thank you.. I'm sticking with it.. currently I'm vaping 24 mg/ml nicotine.. I'm a mtl vapor don't care bout chucking clouds..
That's high for 24 mg/ml nicotine as I thi
It would be a very good thing if Chinese smokers embrace vaping in large numbers. Hopefully it helps that the US FDA is taking a softer approach.

By the way your english is very good. Are you a native speaker or did you learn it in school or do you work some place where there are native speakers?
in China, there are around 316 million people smoking, very big number, if those people can enjoy a healthy way of vaping, that will save a lot of people's lives. I study English in School, English is the mandatory course in the school, every pupil need to learn it now, this is the way to be close with the world I think. really nice to talk with you!
 
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