Hi Everyone - Mod Question

[iAmjudge]

Hi everyone, guess I'm not technically a new member compared to my join date, but I completely forgot I registered here a few years ago.

I'm not a new vaper, but I did just purchase a new mod (Evic VT) and I'm a bit nervous doing some research after the fact. I'm seeing a bunch of conflicting reports on the safety of the battery on the evic and was hoping someone could help clarify whether or not this is "safe"

I understand the inherent risk with any ecig mod but I'm seeing a lot of people say the li po batteries are not safe and could blow up more so than the li ion batteries. It seems like it's split 50/50 between people but being a naturally paranoid person isn't doing me much good.

I guess I won't get a concrete answer on this, but maybe if anyone has some explanation to someone who isn't an "expert" on this would be greatly appreciated.

One last thing, what are some mods that don't use the li po batteries and use the li ion ones?

Thank you in advance!

 

[dc99]

I think the problem is the different types of li-po's. The ones designed to work in an e-cig device are no more dangerous than any other battery. Isticks, evic and so on have been using them as long as I can remember without any problems. These companies had these designed to work with there product, they didn't buy one for a helicopter and cram in into the device. Just treat them with the respect you would treat any other battery and they will be fine.

 

[iAmjudge]

Thank you. I appreciate the response.

I kind of figured that was the case, other than some freak accidents with the istick 50, I couldn't find any "random exploding" with the evic vt.

 

[suprtrkr]

In general, IMR chemistry Li-ion batteries are safer than LiPo's because they are more stable. This is, IMHO, primarily a function of energy density: LiPo's pack the electrons tighter and are thus smaller and lighter for any given mAh. This is not to say a LiPo pack can't be used safely. Tens or hundreds of millions of them are, ever day; every cell phone battery in the world is a LiPo, for example. Some general good advice for all batteries, regardless of type, is: 1) Stay within the rated amp loading; that is, don't ask it for more power than it can give. 2) Let it "rest" a bit after discharging before going on the charger; and after charging before use. This allows the battery to cool and to "reorganize" the internal distribution of electrons into an iso state. 3) Don't jostle it while it's in the charger. As 2 indicates, they're unstable while charging. Let them be while they're doing it. Is it possible you'll have trouble with that Evic? Certainly. Is it likely? No, not at all; and less so if you'll do as I suggest. As to which goes where, pretty much all fixed battery mods are LiPo's, while just about all removable battery mods are intended for IMR cells. All that said, I use removable battery mods exclusively, and I buy good batteries for them, and I have a great charger that takes good care of them. Batteries are both dangerous and expensive. Taking reasonable care of the seems to me to be a good idea.

 

[iAmjudge]

Thank you, suprtrkr. Good advice that I'll follow.

 

[bwh79]

Folks, there are two types of batteries called "Li-Po" (google it.) First, there are the kind with a polymer electrolyte. These are the dangerous ones. They're also not the ones we use. They're not even fully developed for commercial application yet. The "Li-Po" batteries used in our devices are plain old Li-ion chemistry ("lithium") batteries with a plastic ("polymer") outer casing allowing it to take different shapes than a cylindrical metal canister. That is all.

 

[iAmjudge]

Thank you, bwh79. I haven't seen that yet, but it actually makes a lot of sense.

Maybe this whole thing about li-po batteries were a bit of misinformation that just spread like wildfire on YouTube and the forums? I understand a lot of companies will cut corners to make things cheaper but it seems like they wouldn't use "dangerous" technology is mass produced devices that are constantly used by people's faces and in confined areas. Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic on companies morals, but I would hope I'm right.

 

[michiganvapehead]

Any battery can be dangerous in certain conditions, including the AAs in the checkout aisle at wal mart. In your case the only way I would consider any danger would be a significant drop or physical blow to your device.

 

[suprtrkr]

Any battery can be dangerous in certain conditions, including the AAs in the checkout aisle at wal mart. In your case the only way I would consider any danger would be a significant drop or physical blow to your device.

Amen. Any battery.

 

[dc99]

The first one is wrapped in foil and the kind found in your cell phone and so on. They are generally single cells and when encased in plastic like a cell phone are generally safe. The ones in mods a generally this type, only round. The ones on the right are generally made up of multiple cells attached together and encased. Hence the 1S,2S,3S ad so on. These are pretty safe when charged and discharged correctly but if mistreated can be extremely dangerous. Just treat any battery with respect and you will be fine

 

[iAmjudge]

Thank you, everyone. I appreciate all the responses and info.

Although I understand there are risks with any battery, in any device. It does seem like the YouTube video regarding the evic (back in June) created a bit of hysteria online, as far as these things being "extremely dangerous" in normal, everyday conditions.